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Mon Feb 22, 2016, 05:50 AM

 

Does Bernie Sanders deserve the black voters he needs?

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Reply Does Bernie Sanders deserve the black voters he needs? (Original post)
bravenak Feb 2016 OP
Fumesucker Feb 2016 #1
bravenak Feb 2016 #6
cali Feb 2016 #2
bravenak Feb 2016 #5
Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #33
uponit7771 Feb 2016 #3
bravenak Feb 2016 #4
w4rma Feb 2016 #7
bravenak Feb 2016 #8
w4rma Feb 2016 #9
bravenak Feb 2016 #10
w4rma Feb 2016 #11
bravenak Feb 2016 #12
femmedem Feb 2016 #13
bravenak Feb 2016 #18
Petrushka Feb 2016 #19
Bohunk68 Feb 2016 #15
bravenak Feb 2016 #17
Bohunk68 Feb 2016 #20
bravenak Feb 2016 #21
Bohunk68 Feb 2016 #22
bravenak Feb 2016 #23
Bohunk68 Feb 2016 #26
Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #35
bravenak Feb 2016 #36
w4rma Feb 2016 #25
w4rma Feb 2016 #27
Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #34
bravenak Feb 2016 #37
brooklynite Feb 2016 #31
JI7 Feb 2016 #14
bravenak Feb 2016 #16
Red Knight Feb 2016 #24
greymouse Feb 2016 #28
bravenak Feb 2016 #29
greymouse Feb 2016 #30
bravenak Feb 2016 #32
TheCowsCameHome Feb 2016 #38
bravenak Feb 2016 #39
frylock Feb 2016 #40
bravenak Feb 2016 #41

Response to bravenak (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 05:57 AM

1. No but then neither does Hillary Clinton

No one "deserves" votes, it's ridiculous idea to start with.

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:08 AM

6. Hmm

 

Some seem to think he deserves it. Because of something something best for us.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:00 AM

2. Lol. Selective you. Hilly dear is the one who loves to dog whistle

 


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Response to cali (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:07 AM

5. That has nothing to do with the article

 

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Response to bravenak (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 08:37 AM

33. Rich.

 

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:02 AM

3. +1, Revolution!! (except for them) isn't revolution it's great marketing for a narrow set of people

... and that seems to be Sanders main focus.

After reading his answer on immigration I'm think Sanders spent WAY WAY WAY too much time in VT and not traveling this great and grand nation with the greatest diverse set of people in it.

The writer is correct, if immigration can't pass what the hell is SP supposed to do!?

... people are starting to see through the marketing

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:06 AM

4. Very true

 

The marketing is not to a diverse group of comsumers

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:11 AM

7. Clinton doesn't have a racial justice platform. Clinton doesn't talk economics like MLK did, either.

 

Sanders does.

Clinton deserves to be opposed at every turn.

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Response to w4rma (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:13 AM

8. Does that mean he deserves it?

 

Revolution but not for what WE want?

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Response to bravenak (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:22 AM

9. We have two choices (other than the Republicans).

 

Sanders *clearly* deserves it more than Clinton.

From what I can tell, MLK had a profound effect on Sanders' thinking. It seems to me that MLK might be the activist/politician that molded Sanders more than any other.

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Response to w4rma (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:33 AM

10. What has he done for us in my lifetime to deserve it? Born in the early 80s?

 

Does he hire us? Promote us? Campaign for us? Stump for us? Show up in crises?

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Response to bravenak (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:41 AM

11. Given a score of 100 percent by the NAACP and NHLA based on his record during his time in the Senate

 

He passed more amendments than any other member during his time in the House. It earned him the nickname “The Amendment King.” He did this despite being a “socialist” and Congress being controlled by Republicans from 1994 to 2006, in one of the most partisan right-wing Houses ever.

Given a score of 100 percent by the NAACP and NHLA (National Hispanic Leadership Agenda) based on his record during his time in the Senate.
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/02/19/heres-a-long-list-of-bernie-sanders-accomplishments-with-citations/

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Response to w4rma (Reply #11)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:44 AM

12. Not sufficient

 

I want to know the answers to my actual questions. I can wait for anyone who can answer.

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Response to bravenak (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:59 AM

13. In your lifetime he campaigned for Jesse Jackson during his '84 and '88 presidential campaigns.

From The Nation:

"Those of you who are young may never have heard that the 1988 Jackson campaign won 13 primaries and caucuses, 7 million votes, and 1,218.5 national convention delegates. You may never have heard that the 1984 and 1988 Jackson campaigns helped register millions of young African Americans to vote—voters who were still active when it came time to vote for Barack Obama in 2008 and 2012. You may never have heard that those two Jackson campaigns forced changes in the Democratic Party rules to make them fairer and more proportional—rules changes which opened the door to Obama’s victory a generation later.

One of those 13 states that Jesse Jackson won, in an upset, was the Vermont caucus in April of 1988, in a very close contest over Governor Michael Dukakis. And one of Jesse’s key supporters in that surprise victory was the mayor of Burlington, whom I met for the first time on the eve of the Vermont caucus, in my role with Jackson’s presidential campaign. Bernie clearly understood the historic nature of Jesse’s run."

More.

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Response to femmedem (Reply #13)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:35 AM

18. Sigh

 

This is always the go to. She has done this for many black women politicians.

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Response to femmedem (Reply #13)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:36 AM

19. Thank you for the link.






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Response to bravenak (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:18 AM

15. After reading your replies on your own thread,

It is apparent that nothing would be sufficient for you. You have the attitude of "what have you done for me, lately?" The answers have been out there, posted all over DU. You are just refusing to read them or to even acknowledge their presence.

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Response to Bohunk68 (Reply #15)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:34 AM

17. Why should I be satisfied?

 

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Response to bravenak (Reply #17)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:37 AM

20. Google is your friend. Use it. I am not here to do it for you.

You have indicated through your posts that your mind is already made up. Facts will mean nothing.

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Response to Bohunk68 (Reply #20)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 08:00 AM

21. Hilary supporters would google it for me

 

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Response to bravenak (Reply #21)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 08:04 AM

22. Are you saying that you do not know how to use Google?

If so, that explains a lot of your posts.

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Response to Bohunk68 (Reply #22)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 08:05 AM

23. Aww, lol

 

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Response to bravenak (Reply #23)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 08:12 AM

26. Did you Google that? Oh, no, you got it from another Hill supporter who

googled it for you!!! Good show!

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Response to bravenak (Reply #21)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 08:39 AM

35. This made me laugh tho....

 

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Response to Joe the Revelator (Reply #35)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 08:40 AM

36. I try

 

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Response to bravenak (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 08:07 AM

25. King: Destroying the myth that Bernie Sanders doesn't address race or racism

 

While Hillary Clinton and even Barack Obama have gone light on the police brutality epidemic in Chicago, Bernie has openly stated that all police and public officials who've been involved in covering up for the police should not only be fired, but prosecuted.

Perhaps no politician in the country has a deeper, more consistent record of speaking out on economic injustice than Bernie Sanders. In no small coincidence, Bernie goes to great lengths in his racial justice platform to mention how economic fairness was the primary focus of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. in his last years as a leader. As one of only two current senators to attend the March on Washington, Bernie Sanders was greatly impacted by the thoughts Dr. King gave on Democratic Socialism. Those very principles are reflected throughout his entire life.

No community suffers like the black community during an economic downturn. When America's economy gets a cold, the black community gets a plague. To this very day, metrics like wages, savings, employment rates, interest rates, home ownership, and net worth are all drastically lower for African-Americans than every other ethnic group in this country. A huge part of what made "The Case for Reparations" by Ta-Nehisi Coates so powerful was that he masterfully showed how major American corporations, in the recent housing crisis, abused and preyed on African-Americans in criminal fashion.

No politician has gone to greater lengths to put Wall Street on blast than Bernie Sanders. No politician has said and done more to show how outrageous it is that a few Americans have more combined wealth than the bottom 200 million of us. He's not just a dude who complains, though — he has real policy proposals. He is the only presidential candidate arguing for a $15 minimum wage by 2020, which would impact over 50% of black Americans and provide a living wage for the working poor.

He has made the idea of free public college education a hallmark of his campaign. He has made the idea that all Americans, as a right, should have universal healthcare — a driving force of almost every speech he gives. These proposals, which are standards of many countries around the world, would benefit black Americans as much, if not more, than any other group in our nation.

No American president can make racism disappear. It's deeply woven into the fabric of our founding documents and is a primary tool used by many in power who will always use it to maintain that power. It's a heart condition that cannot simply be decreed dead by whomever we elect.

Bernie Sanders, though, is not only willing to address the effects of American racism head on, he is proposing deep systemic reforms that will level this country for generations to come. I don't think he's perfect on race by any means, but I have found him and his core team, which is peopled by men and women of color, to be very responsive and pliable to new ideas and the course corrections of old ones.

The driving force of Bernie's career in public service has been the fight for fairness and equality. To remain free from outside influence and lobbyists, he has become the longest-running Independent congressman in American history. As the senator from the overwhelmingly white state of Vermont, he has not always made issues of race the driving force of his speeches, but I have grown to learn that racial equality has always, since his youth, been a part of why he does what he does. It's why he broke with most of the Democratic Party and endorsed Jesse Jackson for president in 1984 and 1988. It's why he hired a black woman with a heart for reforming the juvenile justice system, Symone Sanders, as his National Press Secretary.

It's why the attorneys for the families of Walter Scott and Trayvon Martin, both victims of racial violence in America, decided to endorse Bernie. It's why Erica Garner, the daughter of police brutality victim Eric Garner, endorsed him.

Without fail, they each said that they actually believed the principles and promises of Bernie Sanders more than any other candidate and that they believe his policies would do more to address the core issues that affect the black community the most.

I agree.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/king-bernie-addressed-race-racism-article-1.2518180

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Response to bravenak (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 08:17 AM

27. Ben Jealous: 'Every part' of Sanders's platform helps blacks

 

Bernie was one of the few elected officials in Vermont to endorse Jesse Jackson for president of the United States in 1984.

Today, he has a 100 percent rating from the NAACP. He also has the best platform for ending mass incarceration, improving community policing, and advancing racial justice.

Speaking of lives, Bernie is also the only candidate who has been willing to lose a major election fighting for an assault weapons ban (as he did when ran for Congress in 1988).

Bernie understands that gun violence is about more than just guns. He understands the larger social and economic reality faced by our Black and Brown young people, who are the most likely to shoot each other (just as our unemployed white and Native American working class young people are the most likely to shoot themselves).

In other words, Bernie knows that nothing stops a bullet like a job.

Bernie Sanders often expresses his outrage over the real unemployment and underemployment rate for Black youth with high school degrees, which is a shocking 51 percent, in front of crowds of every color. He has a plan to create a million youth jobs to help solve that problem.

Bernie is committed to fighting the Wall Street greed that has decimated Black and Brown communities. He understands that people accumulated their wealth in housing in the 1990s, then lost it in the 2008 crisis after being redlined on lending rates and exploited by predatory lenders. He knows that the rules are rigged by banks that became too big to fail after President Clinton helped eliminate the Glass-Steagall Act and deregulate Wall Street.

There is no question that Bernie Sanders will do more to rein in Wall Street's greed and fraud, end its destructive behavior, and rebuild our communities. He has never taken a dime from their lobbyists, and has built his campaign on the urgent need to rebuild and unleash our economy from the bottom up.

He has the best racial justice platform of any presidential candidate -- but every part of his platform helps African-Americans. His infrastructure plan creates or preserves 13 million good jobs. That helps African-Americans. Providing tuition-free education at public colleges and universities opens the door to opportunity for young people. That helps African-Americans. He has a plan to protect and expand Social Security -- that helps African-Americans.

Moreover, Bernie Sanders knows how to get things done. In these highly partisan times, he has repeatedly reached across the aisle to get results for the American people -- on issues as fundamental as strengthening how we care for our veterans, providing heating oil for the poor, and making sure the Federal Reserve system is as strong as possible.

But, above all else, Bernie Sanders strives to bring all Americans together with his belief that we are one nation and one community, and the fierce urgency with which he is helping to build a movement that will defend the American dream.

That is why he joined the civil rights movement then. That is why he is running for president now.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/benjamin-todd-jealous/who-is-bernie-sanders_b_9245748.html

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Response to bravenak (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 08:38 AM

34. nothing is for you.

 

The schtick is played out.

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Response to Joe the Revelator (Reply #34)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 08:48 AM

37. This is actually how I am

 

In real life. Drive my hubby up the wall. It's like that song

"Maybe I'm just like my Father, too bold. Maybe your just like my mother, she's never satisfied!'

Why do we scream at each other? This is what it sounds like, when doves cry. Doop, doop doop, doop de doop doop Doop!

Or this: https://m.

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Response to w4rma (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 08:34 AM

31. You mean, like this?

Racial Justice

America’s long struggle with race is far from finished.

Hillary will:

End the era of mass incarceration.

Protect immigrants’ rights and keep families together.

Defend every American’s right to vote.

“We can’t hide from any of these hard truths about race and justice in America. We have to name them, and own them, and then change them.”

Hillary, JUNE 20, 2015


The story of America is a story of progress. But more than a half a century after Dr. King voiced his dream for a more equal America, and civil rights activists marched and died for the right to vote, America’s struggle with racism remains far from finished. Race still plays a role in determining who gets ahead in America—and who gets left behind.

Hillary knows that racial inequality is not merely a symptom of economic inequality. We need to address both. As president, Hillary will fight to break down all the barriers that hold Americans back and build ladders of opportunity for all people.

As president, Hillary will:

Dismantle the school-to-prison pipeline. In too many communities, student discipline is overly harsh, with too large an emphasis on suspension, expulsion, or even police involvement—disproportionately impacting students of color and those with the greatest economic, social, and academic needs. Hillary will work to dismantle the school-to-prison pipeline by providing $2 billion in support to schools to reform overly punitive disciplinary policies, calling on states to reform school disturbance laws, and encouraging states to use federal education funding to implement social and emotional support interventions.

End the era of mass incarceration. America’s criminal justice system is out of balance. Keeping nonviolent offenders behind bars does little to reduce crime, but it does a lot to tear apart families and communities. One in every 28 children now has a parent in prison, 1.5 million African American men are missing from their communities, and Native Americans are incarcerated at a rate 38 percent higher than the national average. Hillary will work to cut mandatory minimum sentences for nonviolent drug offenses in half, apply the Fair Sentencing Act of 2010 retroactively, and eliminate the sentencing disparity for crack and powder cocaine. She will prioritize treatment and rehabilitation—rather than incarceration—for low-level, nonviolent drug offenders. And she will end the privatization of our prisons.

Read more: Hillary’s remarks on criminal justice and mass incarceration at Columbia University.

Strengthen bonds of trust between communities and police. African American men are far more likely to be stopped and searched by police, charged with crimes, and sentenced to longer prison terms than white men found guilty of the same offenses. From Ferguson to Staten Island to Baltimore, the patterns have become unmistakable and undeniable. Black lives matter. Everyone in this country should stand firmly behind that. Hillary believes that effective policing and constitutional policing go hand-in-hand—we can and must do both. As president, Hillary will invest in law enforcement training programs on issues such as implicit bias, use of force, and de-escalation. She will also create national guidelines for use of force, provide federal matching funds to make body cameras available to every police department in America, and support legislation to ban racial profiling by federal, state, and local law enforcement officials.

Read more: 9 things you should know about Hillary Clinton’s plan to reform our criminal justice system.

Protect the right to vote. Hillary has laid out her vision to help more Americans exercise their right to vote and defend against the systematic, deliberate efforts to stop millions from participating in our democracy. As president, she will fight to repair the Voting Rights Act and implement universal, automatic voter registration so that every American will be registered to vote when they turn 18, unless they opt out.

Protect immigrants’ rights and keep families together. America’s immigrants continue to earn lower wages, lag behind in education achievement, and face discrimination in their lives. And millions of undocumented immigrants—the majority Latino and AAPI—live in constant fear that deportation will tear their families apart. Hillary will fight for comprehensive immigration reform, including a full and equal pathway to citizenship. She will conduct humane, targeted enforcement, including by ending family detention and closing private immigrant detention centers.

Read more: Hillary Clinton gave a major speech on immigration. Here's what you need to know.

End the epidemic of gun violence in our communities. Gun violence is the leading cause of death for young African American men—more than the next nine leading causes combined. Hillary believes we must do more to crack down on gun stores that flood our communities with illegal guns and deprive our children of their futures. That is why she will stand up to the gun lobby and work to build on President Obama’s common sense reforms.

Fight environmental injustice. Clean air and clean water are basic human rights—they shouldn’t vary between ZIP codes. Yet, too many children in low-income housing are exposed to lead, African American children are twice as likely to suffer from asthma as white children, half of Latinos live in areas where the air quality does not meet EPA's health standards—and climate change will put vulnerable populations at even greater risk. As president, Hillary will make environmental justice a priority by working to reduce air pollution, investing in the removal of toxins like lead, developing greener and more resilient infrastructure, tackling energy poverty, and boosting efforts to clean up highly polluted toxic sites.

Close the education achievement gap. Every child—in every ZIP code—deserves the opportunity to live up to his or her potential. That begins with a world class education from birth through college. Hillary will double America’s investment in Early Head Start and ensure that every four year old in America has access to high-quality preschool to begin closing the achievement gap. She will modernize and elevate the teaching profession to drive student achievement in our K-12 schools. And her college plan will make college affordable and relieve the crushing burden of student debt.

End violence against the transgender community—particularly women of color. LGBT Americans, particularly transgender women of color, are disproportionately the targets of discrimination, harassment, and violence. As president, Hillary will fight for full LGBT equality. She will will work to protect transgender individuals from violence by improving the reporting of hate crimes, investing in law enforcement training that promotes fair and impartial interactions with the LGBT community, and directing the government to collect better data regarding crime victims.

Revitalize the economy in communities being left out and left behind. It’s unacceptable that so many African American families live in pockets of extreme poverty and that so many African American youths are unable to secure a good job. Hillary’s Economic Revitalization Initiative will invest $125 billion to create good-paying jobs, rebuild crumbling infrastructure, and connect housing to opportunity in communities that have been neglected for too long:

$50 billion to create millions of new jobs and provide pathways of opportunity. As president, Hillary will work to create jobs in communities that are being left out. Her plan includes $20 billion to create youth jobs, particularly for African American, Native American, and Latino youth; $5 billion to create reentry programs that will help formerly incarcerated Americans get back on their feet when they return to society; and $25 billion to support entrepreneurship and small business growth in underserved communities.

$50 billion in infrastructure investments to connect working families to good-paying jobs and opportunity. Too many Americans are trapped in so-called “opportunity deserts,” where a lack of reliable transportation keeps them from accessing good-paying jobs. As president, Hillary will make significant investments in public transit to connect the unemployed and underemployed to jobs they need. She will also rebuild crumbling water systems to preserve public health and create jobs and opportunity for local residents and small businesses.

$25 billion to remove blight from neighborhoods, remove barriers to sustainable homeownership, and connect affordable housing to economic opportunity. Centuries of housing discrimination have excluded people of color from the mainstream mortgage market and cut families off from communities with high-performing schools, safe streets, and good-paying jobs. Hillary will fight to ensure that housing policy and the housing market serve to connect every family to economic opportunity, rather than exclude them. And she’ll empower communities to overcome pockets of blight and give local businesses a chance to flourish.

Hillary has been fighting for racial justice her entire career:

As a young lawyer working for the Children’s Defense Fund, Hillary went to South Carolina to work to stop the incarceration of teenagers in adult prisons, and she investigated school segregation in Alabama at so-called “private academies.”

In Arkansas, she started a legal aid clinic to ensure that poor people had access to real legal representation; she helped start a program to help low income parents prepare their kids for school success, which is now in more than 20 states; and she helped to found the Arkansas Single Parent Scholarship Fund, which helped nearly 40,000 single parents with their education.

As first lady, she continued her advocacy for children and families, helping to pass the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP), which now covers more than 8 million kids, helping reform the foster care and adoption system, and advocating for the expansion of Medicaid to cover foster kids until they are 21. She pushed for the expansion of Head Start and for breaking barriers for working parents like quality child care and equal pay for women.

As a U.S. senator, she worked to improve pre-K programs and provide parenting help for at-risk families, which is now part of the Affordable Care Act, and she pushed to expand CHIP to cover more kids. She co-sponsored legislation to end racial profiling and implement sentencing reforms to address crack-cocaine disparities. She also fought to restore voting rights for individuals involved in the criminal justice system, expand programs that help people re-enter society when they have served their time, and worked to expand assistance for at-risk kids including intervention and treatment. She also introduced comprehensive legislation to protect voting rights; supported increased funding for HIV/AIDS programs, spotlighting the disproportionate impact on African American women; and worked with then Senator Obama to fight against lead poisoning, holding the first hearing on environmental justice and disparate impacts on the African American community.


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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:04 AM

14. they deserve the votes they actually get

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Response to JI7 (Reply #14)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:21 AM

16. I agree

 

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 08:06 AM

24. Another race-baiting post

Shocking.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 08:31 AM

28. OP, I guess you missed Bernie being arrested

in an anti-segregation demonstration in Chicago. Or you believe those photo captions Hillaryites doctored to say it wasn't Bernie in protests.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-bernie-sanders-1963-chicago-arrest-20160219-story.html

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Response to greymouse (Reply #28)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 08:31 AM

29. My mom was two so i guess she missed it too

 

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Response to bravenak (Reply #29)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 08:34 AM

30. ah, the very young. No idea of history and think they know it all.

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Response to greymouse (Reply #30)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 08:35 AM

32. Ahh! The mid thirties. Raising kids and one their own since 15

 

Nobody paid for my lifestyle so I could go to college and get arrested on camera. I had to pay rent.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 09:49 AM

38. He certainly does.

He works for all Americans.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #38)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 09:51 AM

39. I do not see it that way

 

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 02:56 PM

40. Probably more than some people deserve the attention they so desperately crave.

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Response to frylock (Reply #40)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 02:56 PM

41. And RECEIVE!!!

 

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