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SurveyUSA: Ohio, (Obama +1), Nevada (Obama +1) (Original Post) TroyD Oct 2012 OP
Obama gets only 82% of the black vote in OH BeyondGeography Oct 2012 #1
There are some stupid ass people in Ohio helpisontheway Oct 2012 #2
Ohio has been one of Obama's best states so far this year TroyD Oct 2012 #3
I'm too ticked to be thankful for that... helpisontheway Oct 2012 #4
What's the trend? ProSense Oct 2012 #5
You don't see a trend in Ohio? FBaggins Oct 2012 #8
A trend for the poll! ProSense Oct 2012 #14
In Ohio? FBaggins Oct 2012 #21
If Nevada is tied then Obama will win because of the strong union get out the vote in Las Vegas. vinny9698 Oct 2012 #6
I think Nevada is leaning Dem yes, key question is OHIO TroyD Oct 2012 #7
Did you happen to notice the CNN Ohio poll from last night 51-47 WI_DEM Oct 2012 #10
If only that were the only poll, right? FBaggins Oct 2012 #12
Yes, if we hold onto the lead in Ohio by the end of this week . . . TroyD Oct 2012 #16
I'm not going to lay my hopes on a specific set of polling dates. FBaggins Oct 2012 #18
yes, you posted the 45-44 Ohio poll yesterday, but that's ok. WI_DEM Oct 2012 #9
The SurveyUsa poll came out this morning. FBaggins Oct 2012 #11
No it was the NBC Columbus poll that was released yesterday done by SUSA WI_DEM Oct 2012 #13
I stand corrected. FBaggins Oct 2012 #17
The ARG poll TroyD Oct 2012 #19
I think you're right re: ARG FBaggins Oct 2012 #20
SurveyUSA claims Sherrod Brown is only +4 TroyD Oct 2012 #15
Hopefully, Romney takes a downward plunge after his abortion comments yesterday! Kteachums Oct 2012 #22

helpisontheway

(5,004 posts)
2. There are some stupid ass people in Ohio
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 08:01 AM
Oct 2012

I hope every single person that votes for him suffers under a President Romney. It is a shame that others will have to suffer right along with the idiots that vote for Romney. President Obama saved their jobs. And Mitt Romney said to let the industry die. There have been tons of ads in Ohio. Even the most low information voter knows what Romney said. They know what he said about the 47%. Also, that House of Representatives lady from Ohio that said YESTERDAY that Obama was going to win BIG should not be allowed to go on tv again. She said oh you can just feel it on the ground. Obama is not just going to win but he is going to win big. OKAY...

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
3. Ohio has been one of Obama's best states so far this year
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 08:05 AM
Oct 2012

So let's work to make sure Obama's numbers go back up and be glad they're not underwater yet.

helpisontheway

(5,004 posts)
4. I'm too ticked to be thankful for that...
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 08:07 AM
Oct 2012

The president saved their jobs and they are not even thankful for that! I just don't understand it! I mean up 3% in Michigan too?? It seems like the people that he tries to help are the ones that turn on him the most. Look at how he tries to help the military and veterans. They still turn around and bash him. He just can't win with some groups. Fed up!.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
5. What's the trend?
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 08:31 AM
Oct 2012

All of these polls are being dropped and posted and no one is looking at the trend.

Nevada:

Nevertheless, the poll represents little change from the previous 8NewsNow/Las Vegas Review-Journal poll in August. Obama clung to a slim lead over Romney in that poll among likely Silver State voters, 47 percent to 45 percent.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/poll-obama-romney-virtually-tied-in-nevada


Wow, Obama led by 2 points in the last survey.

I don't see a trend for this survey in Ohio.



FBaggins

(26,714 posts)
8. You don't see a trend in Ohio?
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 09:18 AM
Oct 2012

If you ignore Gravis' poll, we were up 4/8/8/9/10 points in the two weeks prior to the debate (and another 8&10 the week before that). Now there's one poll showing a four point lead and four polls showing a dead heat (two up one and two down one).

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
14. A trend for the poll!
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 10:02 AM
Oct 2012

Clearly, I was comparing the current poll to the last one by the same pollster.

Still, if you want to include other polls:

CNN Ohio poll: Obama 51, Romney 47 LV; Obama 53, Romney 43 RV
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021502021

FBaggins

(26,714 posts)
21. In Ohio?
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 10:40 AM
Oct 2012

What was the last SurveyUSA poll in Ohio?

The previous NBC poll had us up 8 points... but that wasn't done by SUSA (though I'm told that they did this one for a local NBC affiliate).

vinny9698

(1,016 posts)
6. If Nevada is tied then Obama will win because of the strong union get out the vote in Las Vegas.
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 08:38 AM
Oct 2012

That's how Reid was able to win Nevada. Strong union and Hispanic support.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
7. I think Nevada is leaning Dem yes, key question is OHIO
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 08:45 AM
Oct 2012

There will be a lot of nervousness until the Ohio numbers go back up.

I assume Bill Clinton will go to Ohio soon to help out.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
10. Did you happen to notice the CNN Ohio poll from last night 51-47
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 09:41 AM
Oct 2012

Even with Romney's bounce, Ohio appears to be withstanding it.

FBaggins

(26,714 posts)
12. If only that were the only poll, right?
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 09:45 AM
Oct 2012

The best news is that of the five OH polls released since the debate, none show a clear Romney lead - and they were taken primarily (or even exclusively) at what we hope was the peak of Romney's "bounce".

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
16. Yes, if we hold onto the lead in Ohio by the end of this week . . .
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 10:10 AM
Oct 2012

I think we might be "saved".

But it's going to be nerve-wracking for a few days.

FBaggins

(26,714 posts)
18. I'm not going to lay my hopes on a specific set of polling dates.
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 10:32 AM
Oct 2012

The debate had a huge impact and, yes, many people want to stick their heads in the sand about it - but the tides will change several times between now and election day.

The real impact of the debate is that those tides will likely wash back and forth over much more dangerous territory than we thought they would a week or two ago.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
13. No it was the NBC Columbus poll that was released yesterday done by SUSA
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 10:01 AM
Oct 2012

the station releases it first because they contracted to do it and then SUSA put it on their site at a latter time:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251128162

Not that it really matters. I find it funny though that this poll gets more attention than the CNN Ohio poll that has Obama up 51-47.

FBaggins

(26,714 posts)
17. I stand corrected.
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 10:30 AM
Oct 2012

I hadn't seen that one and RCP had it as a release this morning.

Not that it really matters. I find it funny though that this poll gets more attention than the CNN Ohio poll that has Obama up 51-47.

I don't see it getting "more attention". But I do find it funny that there are five recent polls out and we naturally want to only look at the ones that tell us what we want to hear.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
19. The ARG poll
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 10:33 AM
Oct 2012

Seems to be the only Ohio poll showing a lead for Romney so far.

And it has a history as a right-wing pollster anyway, does it now?

FBaggins

(26,714 posts)
20. I think you're right re: ARG
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 10:38 AM
Oct 2012

At least, that's been my perception.

OTOH, I used to feel the same way about SurveyUSA... but Nate Siver tells me that they have one of the larger house effects (D+2.4).

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
15. SurveyUSA claims Sherrod Brown is only +4
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 10:09 AM
Oct 2012

That seems a little low to me compared to the way he has been polling with other pollsters.

Unless he took a hit when Obama's Ohio numbers went down?

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