City Clerk turns over voting records as AG probes possible irregularities by Sanders staffers

[MADem]

Video produced by conservative group Project Veritas prompts probe

MANCHESTER, N.H. —Manchester City Clerk Matthew Normand confirmed Friday that two Bernie Sanders campaign staffers listed the campaign’s office as their domiciles when they registered to vote in the first-in-the-nation primary, in possible violation of state law.


Normand said he turned over to the state Attorney General’s Office records showing that Hugo Palma, a campaign field director, and Donna Waterman, a campaign staffer, used the 345 Cilley Road address of the Sanders campaign Manchester field office in order to register to vote.

A second video by the conservative activist group Project Veritas, released this week, alleges that neither staffer resided there....In Project Veritas’ first video, released on Feb. 10 – the day after the primary – people identified as local poll workers tell people described by Project Veritas as their “undercover videographers” that they do not have to “stay” in New Hampshire for any set period of time before being allowed to register to vote, and that they do not have to provide any proof of residency beyond the affidavit.

That video prompted the attorney general’s investigation. Assistant Attorney General Stephen LaBonte pointed WMUR.com to a state law that says it is “wrongful voting,” subject to a maximum civil penalty of $5,000 ...

The Republicans are starting early, it would seem......










http://www.wmur.com/politics/city-clerk-turns-over-voting-records-as-ag-probes-possible-irregularities-by-sanders-staffers/38089238

[ucrdem]

1. LOL. They really wanted that NH win didn't they?

Well, they'd better savor it, because it might be their last.

[yourpaljoey]

2. What a sad thing for you to say

Pretty HILLarious, a Hillary supporter loading up on a thread about cheating.
Thanks for the chuckle.

[MADem]

12. They didn't need to do this, either--it was a couple of overzealous staffers, and those

disruptive infiltrators caught them (using a sweet voiced young woman to do their dirty work).

The second video, released earlier this week, purports to show a person identified as Palma telling a Project Veritas representative on hidden camera that he did not want to register in Warner and did so in Manchester, using the campaign office address as his domicile.

City Clerk Normand, however, told WMUR.com he looked at about 6,000 voter registration forms that came in during the weeks leading to the primary and found no names listed for 345 Cilley Road besides Palma and Waterman.

It sounds like a case of laziness more than deceit, but, as I've said elsewhere, the Republicans Are Starting Early!

[Thinkingabout]

3. It isn't people not knowing there is a residency requirement to register to vote, it seems to

be a plan of deceit, we need honesty, this type of deceit will not result in victory for the candidate they are trying to elect.

[Armstead]

10. Honesty you mean like Sanders plans to immediately repeal ACA?

If those two people did knowingly deceive to vot they should be punished.

But the occasional screw up by campaign staffers is hardly more important than the major league deceptionss going on in this primary from another campaign

[Thinkingabout]

37. Iam not telling thousands of people I am going to get Medicare for all, why would we have

two health care plans?

[sufrommich]

4. If Project Veritas is involved,I'm not buying it.

Everything that comes from them is a lie.

[MADem]

6. Well, in this case, they've apparently got proof in the form of a couple of voter registrations

listing a commercial address in a medical facility where a campaign office was situated as a home address.

I don't think their tactics are particularly noteworthy, either--but this is the reason why Democratic candidates have to take a Caesar's Wife approach to everything they do. They aren't going to send out the Obvious Ass (O'Keefe) to do their dirty work anymoore--it'll probably be a PYT with a big smile, wearing a camera....

[UglyGreed]

8. Love it

James O'Keefe of all people

[UglyGreed]

5. James O'Keefe

a real winner there..... any port.............

[MADem]

7. See post 6. nt

[UglyGreed]

9. Right wing source

enough said.............

[MADem]

16. No--not enough said. Try, for once, to take the damned point.

This is not about "WAAAAH--mean to BERRRNNNIE....RIGHT WING SOURCE....WAAAH!!!!!"

It's about a group that has effectively agitated in the past, and it's about a general election, no matter who our nominee is.

These two idiots--and that is what they are, idiots--didn't have to do this. Sanders won decisively without their two stupid votes. Apparently one of them didn't want to register in his own town, so he registered in Manchester (illegally) instead.

This Veritas group--which has resonance in that GENERAL election I mentioned, and which does have ability to shift votes--is STARTING EARLY. THAT is the POINT. They're going after Clinton, too--this is just their most recent effort.

You need to take off the partisan blinders on occasion. Enough said!

[UglyGreed]

17. How low will some go

?itok=xUENHpPZ

[MADem]

59. Pay no attention to those hipsters with their Bernie tees and hidden cameras.

Instead, accuse people of being "MEAN TO BERRRNNNIEEEEEEE!!! WAAAAH! ATTACK!!!!"

Try reading the thread, for once. Actually reading it.

smh.

[JTFrog]

27. Now you give a shit about right wing sources?

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw!

That's fucking rich.

[UglyGreed]

11. BTW

have you heard how the DNC is funnelling funds from the big ticket fundraisers to help Hillary??? Seems the "regular people" are not being helped as some once thought............

[MADem]

19. BTW, this post is about Project Vertas starting early....

If you want to talk about the fact that Bernie Sanders has not yet hosted any of the fundraisers he signed up with the DNC to do--so he could get HIS cut of the DNC cash--then you start another thread to do that, mmmmkay?

Bernie can get his DNC money, TOO--as soon as he fulfills the contract he signed with the DNC back in November. Clinton signed her contract in August, and she has been fulfilling it.

Tell your candidate to do what he promised, and he will have his DNC funds "funnelled" (SIC) right to him!

[UglyGreed]

24. I kicked the thread for you

tell us how big ticket fundraisers help down ticket and the "regular people"

[MADem]

31. If you read the article I provided, you should be able to figure it out. It's right there.

Since you seem to be having difficulty, let me help you out--this is from the very link I provided to you, upthread. It only has three paragraphs, and here's the second one--simply worded, easy to understand:

The move, which comes more than two months after Hillary Clinton's campaign signed such an agreement in August, will allow Sanders' team to raise up to $33,400 for the committee as well as $2,700 for the campaign from individual donors at events.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/bernie-sanders-2016-fundraising-dnc-215559#ixzz40oh4MjVh

Now, let me break this down for you, because you're having such trouble. Sanders gets this, he's been doing it for YEARS, at least 2x per year, in Martha's Vineyard and Palm Beach since 2006--he's not a newbie to the process. You show up at a shindig full of rich people, you schmooze them, and they write checks. These checks go to supporting Democrats for elective office.

In the case of this agreement, Sanders shows up at fundraiser--he schmoozes the people, and he (and/or his fundraising team) can take twenty seven hundred bucks for Team Bernie rom each of them, and he can also--and is expected to-- play a role in separating them from up to 33+ thousand that will go "down ticket." That IS where "committee" money goes. That's the trade-off.

Hope this helps--now stop hitting yourself on the head-- -- because that does NOT help.

[UglyGreed]

32. .

The Alaska Democratic Party has collected more than $40,000 from a political committee tied to the presidential campaign of Hillary Clinton that raises money from billionaire donors, complicating the party’s message as it calls for campaign finance reform.

The party, in a monthly report filed Friday with the Federal Election Commission, said it raised $43,500 from the Hillary Victory Fund, with $10,000 donations from billionaires, including hedge fund manager S. Donald Sussman and Hyatt hotel heir J.B. Pritzker.

In the same report, the Alaska Democratic Party said it transferred an equal amount of money, $43,500, [back] to the Democratic National Committee -- a move that, while legal, helps to effectively “obliterate” federal limits on donations to the national committee, according to one campaign finance expert.

“It just becomes a way to give more to the DNC to support the Clinton campaign,” said Paul S. Ryan, deputy executive director of the Campaign Legal Center, which advocates for campaign finance reform. “It’s effectively Hillary Clinton’s team soliciting Hillary Clinton’s supporters for much bigger checks than they can give to the campaign -- knowing that every penny could be spent on the Clinton campaign.”

A Cuban-born sugar tycoon. A California-based registered foreign agent for the government of Sri Lanka. A Chicago billionaire.

All of them are recent large donors to the Maine Democratic Party via a complex fundraising scheme called the Hillary Victory Fund. The fund exploits recent court decisions and weakened campaign finance laws to maximize political contributions and funnel them to the Democratic National Committee.

[...]

But all the contributions haven’t stayed in Maine, or any of the other state Democratic parties to which Hillary Victory Fund donations have been funneled. Federal Election Commission reports show that the two October and November transfers totaling $39,000 from the Hillary Victory Fund to the Maine Democratic Party each sat for less than 48 hours with the party before the exact same amounts were transferred to the Democratic National Committee, or DNC.

[...]

While individual contributions to the state and national parties are capped, transfers between state and national committees are unlimited. That means that, effectively, donors can skirt contribution limits to the DNC or state parties by giving through joint fundraising committees like the Hillary Victory Fund.

A joint fundraising committee linking Hillary Clinton to the national Democratic Party and 33 state parties is routing money through those state parties and back into the coffers of the Democratic National Committee. So far, 22 of the state parties linked to the Hillary Victory Fund have received $938,500 from the fund and sent the same amount back to the DNC, according to available campaign finance records. The Clinton campaign claims to have raised an additional $18 million for the party committees in the final three months of 2015, although records will not be disclosed until Jan. 31.

The movement of money from a joint fundraising committee through state parties and to the national party committee has been criticized by campaign finance reformers as a way to get around campaign contribution limits.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/1/9/1467700/-This-May-Be-The-Reason-Bernie-s-Not-Fundraising-for-the-State-Democratic-Parties

[MADem]

40. Sanders can do this, too. Not sure what your complaint is.

It's easier to shriek and cry victim, though, I guess?

Or maybe he's laying low, after this revelation?

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/05/politics/sanders-democratic-fundraisers/

Point is, his DNC fundraising efforts (since as far back as 2006 at least) have already left the barn, and the "Caesar's Wife" protests are falling flat. He's shocked, SHOCKED...I'm sure...!!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

13. He had an insurmountable lead. Why would they do that? nt

[MADem]

20. Overzealous individuals. The point (that some partisans are missing because they can't see past

their partisan tunnel vision) is that these videographers are starting early. They've got infiltrators in both campaigns. They don't care that these two votes made NO difference in the outcome, they're interested in playing gotcha.

I find it really weird that some people don't want to acknowledge this aspect of the story. It's not about Sanders--it's about those PV guys and how our team has to cross every T, dot every I, not cheat, always play fair, and do it RIGHT--because those bums are watching and looking to take advantage, even the smallest advantage.

[UglyGreed]

14. Oh and of course

NCtraveler recommends this right wing source. Such standards.............

[MADem]

41. WMUR Channel 9 is a right wing source? I'll bet you liked them just fine when they were calling

the results of the NH primary.

[UglyGreed]

43. LOL

[MADem]

47. That view is coming back at you from your mirror and you've posted it for all of us to see?

You are denying that these Veritas operatives are at it again?

And you think you're helping by pretending that they haven't been a factor in the past?

indeed.

[demmiblue]

15. Unrec for source. n/t

[MADem]

21. The source is WMUR, ABC Channel 9 in Manchester, NH.

You're missing the point, but whatever.

I despair of actual discourse here at DU.

[UglyGreed]

23. But those who

cry daily about right wing sources rec this garbage............

[MADem]

26. The source is ABC news -- WMUR Channel 9 in NH. Do you have a problem with that source, too? nt

[JTFrog]

28. And those who post right wing crap daily are here complaining about it.

Funny how that shit works eh?

[workinclasszero]

18. ...two Bernie Sanders campaign staffers listed the campaign’s office as their domiciles

..when they registered to vote in the first-in-the-nation primary, in possible violation of state law.

Interesting....

[MADem]

25. Make no mistake--these assholes have gone and will go after Clinton staffers. They won't hesitate.

The point of my post is that they're starting early with this stuff. This is not the crime of the century in terms of the effect of the "mis-registration" because Sanders would have won NH anyway. The point is that the PV people are IN the Democratic campaigns in a big way--wearing hidden cameras, sending "cute young people" to do their dirty work, and looking for bad behavior.

We as a group, regardless of which candidate we support, need to be alert to these people and always behave in a manner that is above reproach.

[treestar]

22. Weird they needed to cheat in NH

Really an entitled campaign.

[workinclasszero]

29. INR?

Just another misfire from Bernie's excellent campaign staff

[stevenleser]

30. If true, I can't stand that it is Project Veritas that discovered it. I hate them and O'Keefe. nt

[MADem]

33. Oh, they're after Clinton too--my main point here was that they are starting early.

Sanders would have still easily won NH without this stupidity...and that's all it was, stupidity.

But those PV guys are OUT there--they're in the Sanders campaign, and they're in the Clinton campaign. They aren't going to stop, they are going to send cute hipsters out to the Sanders camp, and grey haired old ladies and sincere middle aged male feminists out to Hillary's efforts--and they are going to be wearing body cameras.

This is meaningless in the big scheme, but unlike a lot of shit these guys have pulled, it is fact-based--they have the registration documents that show that these two nitwits put down the campaign office address so they could vote in Manchester instead of having to go home to vote.

[stevenleser]

34. Yep. All Democrats have to be careful and not even joke around about stuff. That's what happened to

Acorn. Some folks tried to play along with O'Keefe and his jerk minions and O'Keefe presented it as real assertions and spliced stuff together to make it seem even worse.

Hillary is definitely target #1 for these guys.

And you are right, it does seem like these two Sanders staffers actually did the things PV is accusing them of doing. It will be easily verifiable either way.

[MADem]

35. I can say with confidence that I don't think "fake registration" was a component of Sanders' NH

strategy. They were way ahead in the polls. This was simply two "Anything To Win" "True Believers" thinking that they were "helping." They probably didn't want to have to drive to their hometowns to vote, or vote absentee--they wanted the thrill of the polling place, the lines, the enthusiasm, etc. that a Big City (such as Manchester is--it's a small town in some places!) provides!

But they were gamed. And gamed But Good.

Which makes one wonder....how many other Pretty Young Thangs with hidden cameras were out there, skunking around....and getting NOTHING for their trouble?

[hootinholler]

36. For the record this is not a Bernie supporter dragging in RW claptrap

Project Veritas?



Really?

[MADem]

44. This is ABC tv, WMUR Channel 9 in Manchester, reporting this.

Why not pull the string and actually read the cite?

For the record, and all.

This is not "about" "Waaaah Bernie." It's about PV starting EARLY.

But go on, and miss the point.

[hootinholler]

48. Project. Veritas.

The point wasn't lost, simply unaddressed. The legal beagles will go where it takes them, I'm happy to let them.

Since you mentioned it, have you noticed where many RW attacks have been directed lately? That the attacks are coming early informs that we are being noticed and are considered a threat. Game on.

[MADem]

51. And they are going to POOOF!!!! Go AWAY!!! Magically!!!! Because "hootinholler" posted,

portentously

Project. Veritas.

on a message board.



Get the Big Picture, here, why don't you?

The average GOP voter doesn't give a shit what "hootinholler" posts on DU. And this stuff is AIMED AT THEM. And independents. And libertarians, Paulbots, Greens, Reform Partiers, etc.

This is not an attack, either--so your lame characterization does not fly.

This HAPPENED. They have the registration documents. It's truth, and truth is not an attack. So trying to pretend it is makes you look, well, not good.

I have said the following in this thread, but you--of course--ignored it: That Sanders had nothing to do with this, that the Sanders campaign didn't need this to win NH, that this was Two Idiots, not a strategy, etc. Instead, you come back with "Waaah ATTACK!!! MEEEEAN TO BERRRNIE!" as you vigorously AVOID the point.

The point is this (one more time, slowly and clearly, so maybe you will "get" it): PV are starting EARLY. They aren't just going after "Waaah attack BERRRNNNNIE." They are going after Clinton, too. They are using CREDIBLE appearing operatives who look like they are genuine supporters. They aren't "ginning up" shit like with ACORN, they are looking for--even PETTY--instances of malfeasance.

Imagine the amount of work that had to be done to find two jerks who were too lazy to go home to vote? But these guys DID THAT WORK.

If you think this is a one-off, and it's all about "WAAAAH ATTACK BERRNNNNIE" you keep thinking that. It's not the point at all, but you keep on believing. All the way to the GENERAL ELECTION. When these guys will be here, there, and everywhere, working real hard to unseat our nominee, whosoever he or she might be.

[hootinholler]

55. You give me way too much credit

Um, thanks?

[MADem]

57. No, I don't, actually.

I'm trying to tell you that this isn't a "Bernie cheated" thread, because those two nitwits made no difference in his decisive NH victory.

What I am trying to tell you--and everyone else--is that PV is starting early.

I said that in the OP, in fact.

No one wants to talk about THAT piece. They're too busy defending a guy who doesn't need a defense, and calling an isolated but genuine "fact" -- inconvenient as it might be -- an attack.

PV are getting more sophisticated. They've gone from guerrilla theater (the ACORN stunt) to actual guerrilla activism, and this is an example of their work. A small example but it shows their capabilities and their willingness to do onerous grunt work (digging through voter registrations) to say "Ah HA! Gotcha!!!!!"

My point is this: EXPECT MORE. People from either camp should have a weather eye out.

[hootinholler]

62. Jesus H Christ on a trailer hitch

Are you always so violent in your agreement?

My second reply to you, the one in which I said I got the fucking point, kind of implies that I got the point. That I didn't really remark on it kind of implies that I agree that it is early for this shit.

It did not imply that I think this shit will stop. Apparently I have more faith in the public when Project Veritas is involved.

While it's not P.V. what happened in Tx helps me to keep the faith that truth will win.

[MADem]

82. LOL @ "Are you always so violent in your agreement?"

I'm catching a lot of shit in this thread from people who have this attitude that I'm "Being Mean To Bernie" when I'm not doing anything of the sort and taking pains to correct anyone who has the impression that this was a methodology.

Two idiots got overzealous, at least one was eligible to vote in the state.

They're everywhere--on all sides of the Democratic primary divide...that was my main focus, but some people are still giving me shit (see downthread).

[restorefreedom]

38. when they address the cheat---er, "irregularities" in iowa and nevada,

get back to me.

[Vinca]

39. If they're after Bernie for this petty baloney, imagine what the Clinton attack will look like.

[MADem]

45. They've already started with her.

The point I am making--and getting weird pushback for--is that PV will send people into campaigns who look like true believers, but who are actually operatives for the opposition. If you think that sweet, middle aged lady with the "I'm With HER" button, or that cute little college kid with the "Feel The Bern" tee shirt is an actual enthusiast for the candidate they purport to support, you just might get the shock of your life.

They get away with this shit because their operatives LOOK REAL.

[UglyGreed]

42. I'll just leave this here

since O'Keefe and his team is credible now......

[MADem]

46. Wow, the "hurt" is strong with you! Keep missing the point, and ignoring the problem.

This isn't about Democratic partisanship with regard to sourcing, this is about the general election, where "sources" are not sneered at "because Bernie."

Maybe you forgot the last go-round, with the ACORN business, and how much damage those guys did? Well, guess what? They are being more careful this time around, and they've chosen their operatives because they look real.

You keep playing the game that this is a "Mean to Bernie" exercise, but it isn't. It's about a "They're At It Again" exercise. The Sanders campaign was simply the target in this instance.

[Impedimentus]

49. If they broke the law they should be punished. However, ...

I doubt that two votes are going to make much of a difference in the results of the primary. This is hardly voter fraud on a grand scale, even if he allegations are true. It does, however, make for great theater as a DU thread. How many of you are going to have life-changing experiences because of two potentially invalid votes - think about it ?

[MADem]

54. I have said that--REPEATEDLY--in this thread, which is an example of partisanship run amok, I fear.

Sanders did not need the enthusiastic votes of these two boneheads in Manchester to gain his decisive victory.

One of the guys at least could have gone to his hometown and voted. Instead he was lazy or stupid or felt like it didn't matter and decided he wanted to vote in Manchester.

This is not about "theater on a DU thread" if people would actually READ the damn thread.

But that's not happening, and that is why DU isn't the place it used to be.

[whatchamacallit]

50. Good to know Veritas/O'Keefe is an acceptable source

Never know when you'll need some bullshit to create a sensational smear headline.

[MADem]

52. I am just going to invite you to read every damn post I've made in this thread. Maybe then

you'll figure out that wasn't the point at all.

And stop with the --do it often enough you'll give yourself a concussion.

[dlwickham]

71. Just give it up

Just give it up

The people who need to listen to you obviously aren't and you're just Setting yourself crazy

[MADem]

83. I will always try to give people the opportunity to understand.

If they don't want to take it, well, it's on them at the end of the day.

[dlwickham]

85. I'd think the first hundred time you made your point would have been enough

they remind me of petulant children who just want to argue for argument's sake

[MADem]

86. I get the impression some of them read the OP and just answer without reading the full thread.

They want to believe that I am "being mean to Bernie" and they confirm their own bias.

Bernie's not the only one who has gotten this treatment--he's just the one with the most recent story, so far. There will be more. These people have an agenda. The last Dem standing will get the full flavor of their shitstirring.

[gwheezie]

53. I don't believe anything coming from that group

I am a HRC supporter just to be clear, but there is an entire business on the right dedicated to smearing democrats and the dem establishment and causes they stand for.

[MADem]

56. The point is this--YOU don't have to believe them. REPUBLICANS, INDEPENDENTS, LIBERTARIANS,

REFORM PARTIERs, ETC., are the ones who 'have to' believe them. And they do--ACORN (since debunked) STILL has legs. Even today.

They are skeevy. They will do anything to win. They love that guerrilla strategy of inserting operatives with cameras into inner sanctums.

This isn't about "Sanders got an unfair victory." He didn't. He DECISIVELY won NH without these 2 idiots or any others that PV might be able to scare up.

This is about PV STARTING EARLY. As I said in the OP.

But I might as well have said "BERNIE BAD--GRRRRR!!!" for all the intelligent responses I've gotten to this point. Way too many are reflexively so eager to "defend" a guy who doesn't need defending re: the NH primary that the actual point escapes them.

[gwheezie]

60. I think they are just getting started on bernie

Since he is doing so well. Prior to voting actually starting the right could ignore him and try to marginalize him but he's going to get the full treatment as the primary season goes on and if he is the nominee, this ain't nuthin'

[MADem]

61. Yes, I believe this too. I also believe they are building dossiers on both candidates.

This kind of thing isn't terribly important in a primary contest, but it can be a total "OH THE HUGE MANATEE" faux issue in a general election.

They're planning for either contingency.

[zappaman]

58. Revolutionaries don't need rules!

[UglyGreed]

63. Kick

[UglyGreed]

64. Kick for exposure

[jfern]

65. They know they have to take down the most electable Democrat

[MADem]

68. I think they're just practicing at this stage of the game.

This is a local story, that was broadcast locally, in Manchester NH, after a primary. You're not going to turn on HEADLINE NEWS and see them broadcasting this in tight rotation. It's a blip.

It's two lousy zealots, it's not a movement. If anything, they'll "save this for later."

My point, again--that no one is taking--is that "they are starting early."

[nc4bo]

66. O'Keef Part 2, O'Keefe strikes again HRC campaign in NV is under investigation for alleged election

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511302185

The Hillary Clinton campaign in Nevada is reportedly under investigation for alleged election law violations.
This development emerged after muckraking journalist/conservative activist James O’Keefe and his Project Veritas crew released another hidden camera video targeting the Democrat front-runner’s field organization.
In the video, Clinton campaign staffers appear to be co-mingling voter registration efforts with simultaneously promoting Hillary Clinton’s candidacy for president which is apparently improper under state election law.
“The video purports to show an undercover Project Veritas journalist recording the campaign staffers discussing how during voter registration drives they openly endorsed Clinton and the Democratic Party. That’s an apparent violation of election law, which prohibits registration workers from advocating for a candidate or a party,” The Daily Caller reported.

The rats are in the corn.

[MADem]

69. See? They're starting early.

"The rats are in the corn" is a valid comment, too.

[jillan]

67. More goodies from the ACORN people.

[MADem]

70. Yes. They're starting early--and, as linked above, they're not favoring any candidate. nt

[beam me up scottie]

72. Project Veritas. Great source you have there.

And I don't care where you found it, you're dragging right wing smears back here.

Project Veritas.

I voted to hide a post citing them when they were smearing Hillary.

And look at the recs, no surprises there.

[MADem]

75. No, the source is ABC/WMUR. The story is ABOUT PV.

Reading is fundamental.

The take away--for those who read--is that they are starting up early this time around.

But hey--don't read the thread. That'll ruin your fun if you do.

[beam me up scottie]

77. That's how you presented it you mean, it's still a hit piece from Project Veritas/O'Keefe.

Like I said, I voted to hide the same kind of "report" when it was posted by a Bernie supporter but then I try to stay consistent when it comes to right wing hit pieces on our candidates.

You're not fooling anyone.

I really hope you don't complain the next time someone posts an article on Hillary from a right wing source.

Because they could be doing it for "educational" purposes too.

[MADem]

84. What an ugly accusation!

Don't put your attitudes and schemes on me, thanks much.

The source is WMUR in Manchester. Deal with it. Or not--I really don't care.

[Warren DeMontague]

73. Ah, intrepid investigative reporter James O'Keefe.

Isn't he still on parole?

[MADem]

74. No idea. The story is from ABC WMUR in Manchester.

The point is, that the PV people are starting early.

I've said this a dozen times in this thread. Be nice if someone noticed.

[HooptieWagon]

76. Project Veritas is James O'Keefe.

If you want to hitch your wagon to him, Please proceed.

[beam me up scottie]

79. Amazing, isn't it?

But the op is just "reminding" us how nasty the right wing hate machine can be.

(wink wink nudge nudge)

Funny thing happened tonight, a Bernie supporter posted a Veritas expose on Hillary but deleted it immediately after being informed it was a right wing source.

[MADem]

81. No one is hitching any wagons. But keep miscaracterizing me. It'll eventually come back on you.

I suggest you read all my responses in this thread to get my POV on this matter, because obviously, to this point, you have not.

[mgmaggiemg]

78. wow

bernies people are desperate if they are resorting to that

[MADem]

80. They aren't, really; it's just two idiots. Sanders would have won NH without this foolishness.

There's no evidence that any others did it.

The point is, though, that those PV guys are starting early, and they have gone so far as to dig through individual voter registrations to try to catch someone out. They've gone after Clinton, too. They are building dossiers.

I wonder who is funding them?

This kind of groundwork can't be cheap.

[Dr. Strange]

87. More goodies from Project Veritas.

[MADem]

88. Yes--they were after her even way back in Aug and Sep, when those videos where made.

Their efforts vs. Sanders are more recent; but they have both candidates in their sights.

I don't for a minute think they've stopped targeting her, but they're targeting him as well, now, as this story demonstrates.

[frylock]

89. Well, gee. Where there's smoke, there's fire.