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Hillary Clinton has a greater than 99% chance of winning the South Carolina primary. (Original Post) workinclasszero Feb 2016 OP
The primary will be effectively over after March 1 if nothing changes. Renew Deal Feb 2016 #1
Yup workinclasszero Feb 2016 #4
lol ... Hiraeth Feb 2016 #25
I find your words that you just wrote quite repulsive.................................. turbinetree Feb 2016 #29
OK workinclasszero Feb 2016 #30
The Chicago Cubs are the favorites in the NL Central. Bleacher Creature Feb 2016 #49
See ya warrprayer Feb 2016 #36
Good luck in the GE without the so called 'revolution' Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #56
Once again, South Carolina leads the Country in bad political decisions. nt ladjf Feb 2016 #2
Hmm, it gave Obama a big victory in his 2008 campaign against Hillary. book_worm Feb 2016 #8
Many Bernie followers think Obama was a bad political decision wyldwolf Feb 2016 #46
The end cannot come soon enough. ucrdem Feb 2016 #3
Its nuts that Bernie would waste one cent in South Carolina workinclasszero Feb 2016 #5
Really.................................. turbinetree Feb 2016 #32
He is wasting time and money on a sure loss workinclasszero Feb 2016 #34
Self Interests..................................at the 1:15---------------says it all ............. turbinetree Feb 2016 #58
I do not see how he has any chance there with his horrible poll numbers wuth AA voters. bravenak Feb 2016 #6
Its a sure loss workinclasszero Feb 2016 #7
I would just skip that state and spend my money where it counts bravenak Feb 2016 #9
I have the uttermost contempt for anyone workinclasszero Feb 2016 #15
Its insane bravenak Feb 2016 #21
Its desperate workinclasszero Feb 2016 #24
I'm ready bravenak Feb 2016 #28
Bernie blew it! Many missed opportunities ... NurseJackie Feb 2016 #10
It was bad. bravenak Feb 2016 #11
Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #39
. bravenak Feb 2016 #41
What's her chance of winning it in the General? Waiting For Everyman Feb 2016 #12
VA, NC, and FL are in the south and those states are in reach./nt DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #13
What about South Carolina? Waiting For Everyman Feb 2016 #16
She has won in 08 and will win in 016 many states we need in the general. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #17
"out of reach for any Democratic candidate in the general" Waiting For Everyman Feb 2016 #22
"The electability issue goes to Bernie (if that matters at all). Latest poll, TYT: " DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #23
In GE, NC came out for Obama. 4 years later......not so much. nc4bo Feb 2016 #31
She will lose to Trump. Hiraeth Feb 2016 #26
Here's the thing pandr32 Feb 2016 #44
gross. Bill a gentleman?! Republican WOMEN will NOT have that. Don't you understand. Hiraeth Feb 2016 #47
Why not and how would you know? pandr32 Feb 2016 #52
ZERO.... LovingA2andMI Feb 2016 #40
This is why in his concession speech last night he ignored SC and focused on "Super Tuesday" book_worm Feb 2016 #14
I think once we're past SC madokie Feb 2016 #19
Your're right and 0 Percent chance of winning the General in that state Armstead Feb 2016 #18
yep Hiraeth Feb 2016 #27
Will someone please press the fast forward button to the GE? oasis Feb 2016 #20
Yes! Enough of this pesky "democracy" stuff RufusTFirefly Feb 2016 #50
Okay, but please don't holler when Hillary steps up her oasis Feb 2016 #51
All I see is that Hillary's trajectory is constantly going downward, while Bernie's keeps going up. secondwind Feb 2016 #33
Yep here it is! jonjon Feb 2016 #59
Bern can go back to being Cryptoad Feb 2016 #35
That's probably true Gore1FL Feb 2016 #37
Jesus tell us something we don't know Robbins Feb 2016 #38
With Hillary's big win in NV last night SC is going to be a blowout. DCBob Feb 2016 #42
Huge blowout! workinclasszero Feb 2016 #43
Yuge nt firebrand80 Feb 2016 #54
Wow. How many of you will eat crow if Hillary *doesn't* mop the floor with Bernie in SC? eggplant Feb 2016 #45
I'm not eating crow if Hillary wins by one vote. workinclasszero Feb 2016 #48
It's ironic that SC, a state that has a snowball's chance in hell to eilen Feb 2016 #53
Conversely, Bernie has a less-than-1% chance of winning. I can't decide ... NurseJackie Feb 2016 #55
I agree. It's going to be a cake walk for Hillary in SC. Vinca Feb 2016 #57
As well as being totally meaningless... jonjon Feb 2016 #60
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
4. Yup
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 09:44 AM
Feb 2016

After her best victory yet in Nevada and the coming wipeout of Bernie in SC, super tuesday will finish off the so-called Bernie "revolution" lol

Hiraeth

(4,805 posts)
25. lol ...
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 11:02 AM
Feb 2016

that you laugh at the goals Bernie wants to accomplish ... funny ... lol ... I personally find addressing climate change hilarious. lol

turbinetree

(24,688 posts)
29. I find your words that you just wrote quite repulsive..................................
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 11:11 AM
Feb 2016

Honk-----------------for a political revolution Bernie

Bleacher Creature

(11,256 posts)
49. The Chicago Cubs are the favorites in the NL Central.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:32 PM
Feb 2016

If stating the actual odds are considered "repulsive," I'm happy to join you in the club!

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
3. The end cannot come soon enough.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 09:43 AM
Feb 2016

Every day is a trainwreck and the contributions going to Sanders are not coming back.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
5. Its nuts that Bernie would waste one cent in South Carolina
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 09:47 AM
Feb 2016

Its a guaranteed loss for him but the true believers still throw money at him so I guess he doesn't mind wasting it.

His campaign staff are a bunch of idiots though.

turbinetree

(24,688 posts)
32. Really..................................
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 11:16 AM
Feb 2016

is that all you can do is throw insults saying that a staff working for someone is a bunch of idiots

Do you think that you might be speaking with some one that is a volunteer

Honk-------------------for a political revolution Bernie

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
34. He is wasting time and money on a sure loss
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 11:26 AM
Feb 2016

Buy hey, don't let me get in the way of Bernie's glorious revolutionary army.

Bern all the cash you got on lost causes guys! It works for me.

turbinetree

(24,688 posts)
58. Self Interests..................................at the 1:15---------------says it all .............
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:53 PM
Feb 2016




And for the record------------------this fact.....................

Hillary Clinton:

http://ontheissues.org/hillary_clinton.htm

Bernie Sanders:

http://senate.ontheissues.org/Senate/Bernie_Sanders_SenateMatch.htm

http://www.ontheissues.org/House/Bernie_Sanders.htm



I am not wasting my money, at least I know my interests are trying to be protected and its pretty transparent

http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/2989.html


We will see in November, "Who's Interests" are being protected-------------------its pretty much out there, its just on who is put in the cabinet------------------that will say it all



Honk---------------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016

It is about getting a "Progressive President", U.S. Supreme Court, Congress, and State and Local Legislatures

Democracy begins with you------------------------tag your it ---------------------Hartmann / Sanders

Democracy is not a spectator sport--------------get involved ---------------------Hartmann







 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
7. Its a sure loss
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 10:15 AM
Feb 2016

He should write it off as a loss right now and go to other states where he might have a shot but hes got money to burn so hes doing it.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
9. I would just skip that state and spend my money where it counts
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 10:21 AM
Feb 2016

He lost the black vote way worse than I expected in NV. After this thing here with the shouting at a hispanic Civil rights hero, that might have a negative effect on that group as well. I believe what was done to John Lewis is having an effect on the black vote.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
15. I have the uttermost contempt for anyone
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 10:35 AM
Feb 2016

That dares to say one bad word about John Lewis. The man bled for civil rights.

The vicious attacks against Dolores Huerta the hispanic union organizer are sickening as well.

How in the world can Bernie's followers attack these icons?

They did a hell of a lot more to free people than talk shit about it!!

Response to bravenak (Reply #6)

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
16. What about South Carolina?
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 10:35 AM
Feb 2016

And the other red states you know good and well she'll lose. The fact that she's doing well in them in the primary is hollow.

I wouldn't be so sure she'd win the states you mention either.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
17. She has won in 08 and will win in 016 many states we need in the general.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 10:39 AM
Feb 2016

To your question, much of the south is out of the reach for any Democratic candidate in the general.

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
22. "out of reach for any Democratic candidate in the general"
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 10:48 AM
Feb 2016

Yes, thank you. That's what I said.

The delegate count right now is even. HRC will win some southern states' delegates and Bernie will probably win some others. But the fact that won't go away is, HRC gets beaten by any Repub in the latest national polls. Bernie on the other hand, beats any Repub.

The electability issue goes to Bernie (if that matters at all). Latest poll, TYT:



DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
23. "The electability issue goes to Bernie (if that matters at all). Latest poll, TYT: "
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 10:51 AM
Feb 2016

The peer reviewed research suggests asking voters who they think will win is the best predictor of electoral success, ergo:



Simple surveys that ask people who they expect to win are among the most
accurate methods for forecasting U.S. presidential elections

https://forecasters.org/wp-content/uploads/gravity_forms/7-2a51b93047891f1ec3608bdbd77ca58d/2013/07/Graefe_vote_expectations_ISF.pdf
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Hillary Clinton is a 10/11 favorite at the offshore betting sites and the VT senator is a 7-1 underdog


http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us-politics/us-presidential-election-2016/winner


If you bet on Hillary you have to put up $1,100 to win $1,000.00

If you bet on Bernie you have to put up $145.00 to win $1,000.00.



The efficacy of polls nine months out in predicting a general election winner is essentially null. I will go with peer reviewed research. I will let others go with the musings of value laden political pundits.







nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
31. In GE, NC came out for Obama. 4 years later......not so much.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 11:13 AM
Feb 2016

But the teabaggers certainly did, in herds.

If there's no enthusiasm for folks to vote, count NC over and out.

GOTV for Dems sucked during mid-terms and in walked our 100% teabagger administration.

If something doesn't change, there will be low turnout for the primaries too, I suspect.

Just my opinion. ...probably doesnt mean much.

pandr32

(11,574 posts)
44. Here's the thing
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:23 PM
Feb 2016

Once Hillary Clinton secures the Democrat nomination than Bernie Sanders' campaign--his ground game, social media, supporters, and his staff and himself--should all campaign hard to elect the nominee, Hillary Clinton. It would help, of course, if they/you all quit mischaracterizing her with right-wing-style smears meant to harm her chances.
In the end a Democrat wins and Bill will be our First Gentleman.

pandr32

(11,574 posts)
52. Why not and how would you know?
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:24 PM
Feb 2016

Bill Clinton still has quite a bit of support in the Southern States.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
40. ZERO....
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 11:53 AM
Feb 2016

So the temporary victory will be a peril victory. But it is really not a victory at all until Super Tuesday -- which will likely change these smiles into frowns - big time.

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
14. This is why in his concession speech last night he ignored SC and focused on "Super Tuesday"
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 10:29 AM
Feb 2016

Where he hopes to win predominately white states like Massachusetts and Minnesota. Oh, and his homestate of Vermont.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
19. I think once we're past SC
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 10:42 AM
Feb 2016

its katybar the door for Hillary. Bernie will be all in from that point onward. The fact that he almost won Nevada says a lot about his electability. A month ago he was down 30 or so points there and hill needing some shenanigans to eck out a win says a lot.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
50. Yes! Enough of this pesky "democracy" stuff
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:57 PM
Feb 2016

We know we have the right candidate. Why do we have to wait while the voters decide?

Didn't anyone tell them that it's her turn?

Sheesh!

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
38. Jesus tell us something we don't know
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 11:46 AM
Feb 2016

even before we knew the caucus states were fixed for clinton we knew she would win SC.

enjoy it while you can.come november republicans will be laughing at you when trump wins.

eggplant

(3,911 posts)
45. Wow. How many of you will eat crow if Hillary *doesn't* mop the floor with Bernie in SC?
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:27 PM
Feb 2016

He seems to be kicking her ass in the popular vote 60-40 so far. And for an insurgent running without any support of the national party, he's only down *one* pledged delegate after three states.

Looking at a crystal ball is fun and all, but actual results matter more. Nevada was supposed to be a blowout for Hillary, right?

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
48. I'm not eating crow if Hillary wins by one vote.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:30 PM
Feb 2016

A wins a win afterall.

I do think SC will be a big win for Hillary though.

Just my opinion.

eilen

(4,950 posts)
53. It's ironic that SC, a state that has a snowball's chance in hell to
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:29 PM
Feb 2016

go to the Democrat in the General Election is seen as the linchpin.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
55. Conversely, Bernie has a less-than-1% chance of winning. I can't decide ...
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:45 PM
Feb 2016

... which one I like the sound of better.

Vinca

(50,255 posts)
57. I agree. It's going to be a cake walk for Hillary in SC.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:50 PM
Feb 2016

For the life of me I don't understand the AA backing for this woman. Guess if she's elected they'll get the lower wage they seem to want and the huge college debt. Enjoy.

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