2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Clinton has a greater than 99% chance of winning the South Carolina primary.
2016 Primary Forecasts
The odds and polls for presidential primaries and caucuses, updated daily.
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UPDATED 10:10 PM EST | FEB 20, 2016
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/south-carolina-democratic/
Renew Deal
(81,852 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)After her best victory yet in Nevada and the coming wipeout of Bernie in SC, super tuesday will finish off the so-called Bernie "revolution" lol
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)that you laugh at the goals Bernie wants to accomplish ... funny ... lol ... I personally find addressing climate change hilarious. lol
turbinetree
(24,688 posts)Honk-----------------for a political revolution Bernie
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Bleacher Creature
(11,256 posts)If stating the actual odds are considered "repulsive," I'm happy to join you in the club!
warrprayer
(4,734 posts)Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)ladjf
(17,320 posts)book_worm
(15,951 posts)wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Every day is a trainwreck and the contributions going to Sanders are not coming back.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Its a guaranteed loss for him but the true believers still throw money at him so I guess he doesn't mind wasting it.
His campaign staff are a bunch of idiots though.
turbinetree
(24,688 posts)is that all you can do is throw insults saying that a staff working for someone is a bunch of idiots
Do you think that you might be speaking with some one that is a volunteer
Honk-------------------for a political revolution Bernie
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Buy hey, don't let me get in the way of Bernie's glorious revolutionary army.
Bern all the cash you got on lost causes guys! It works for me.
turbinetree
(24,688 posts)And for the record------------------this fact.....................
Hillary Clinton:
http://ontheissues.org/hillary_clinton.htm
Bernie Sanders:
http://senate.ontheissues.org/Senate/Bernie_Sanders_SenateMatch.htm
http://www.ontheissues.org/House/Bernie_Sanders.htm
I am not wasting my money, at least I know my interests are trying to be protected and its pretty transparent
http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/2989.html
We will see in November, "Who's Interests" are being protected-------------------its pretty much out there, its just on who is put in the cabinet------------------that will say it all
Honk---------------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016
It is about getting a "Progressive President", U.S. Supreme Court, Congress, and State and Local Legislatures
Democracy begins with you------------------------tag your it ---------------------Hartmann / Sanders
Democracy is not a spectator sport--------------get involved ---------------------Hartmann
bravenak
(34,648 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)He should write it off as a loss right now and go to other states where he might have a shot but hes got money to burn so hes doing it.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)He lost the black vote way worse than I expected in NV. After this thing here with the shouting at a hispanic Civil rights hero, that might have a negative effect on that group as well. I believe what was done to John Lewis is having an effect on the black vote.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)That dares to say one bad word about John Lewis. The man bled for civil rights.
The vicious attacks against Dolores Huerta the hispanic union organizer are sickening as well.
How in the world can Bernie's followers attack these icons?
They did a hell of a lot more to free people than talk shit about it!!
bravenak
(34,648 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)and stinks of flop sweat.
I cant wait for SC and then Super Tuesday.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)This needs to ends
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... oh well.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Response to bravenak (Reply #6)
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YES. We are
Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)Zip to none. Same for the rest of the South.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)And the other red states you know good and well she'll lose. The fact that she's doing well in them in the primary is hollow.
I wouldn't be so sure she'd win the states you mention either.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)To your question, much of the south is out of the reach for any Democratic candidate in the general.
Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)Yes, thank you. That's what I said.
The delegate count right now is even. HRC will win some southern states' delegates and Bernie will probably win some others. But the fact that won't go away is, HRC gets beaten by any Repub in the latest national polls. Bernie on the other hand, beats any Repub.
The electability issue goes to Bernie (if that matters at all). Latest poll, TYT:
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)The peer reviewed research suggests asking voters who they think will win is the best predictor of electoral success, ergo:
Simple surveys that ask people who they expect to win are among the most
accurate methods for forecasting U.S. presidential elections
https://forecasters.org/wp-content/uploads/gravity_forms/7-2a51b93047891f1ec3608bdbd77ca58d/2013/07/Graefe_vote_expectations_ISF.pdf
Hillary Clinton is a 10/11 favorite at the offshore betting sites and the VT senator is a 7-1 underdog
http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us-politics/us-presidential-election-2016/winner
If you bet on Hillary you have to put up $1,100 to win $1,000.00
If you bet on Bernie you have to put up $145.00 to win $1,000.00.
The efficacy of polls nine months out in predicting a general election winner is essentially null. I will go with peer reviewed research. I will let others go with the musings of value laden political pundits.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)But the teabaggers certainly did, in herds.
If there's no enthusiasm for folks to vote, count NC over and out.
GOTV for Dems sucked during mid-terms and in walked our 100% teabagger administration.
If something doesn't change, there will be low turnout for the primaries too, I suspect.
Just my opinion. ...probably doesnt mean much.
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)Melania will be our First Lady.
pandr32
(11,574 posts)Once Hillary Clinton secures the Democrat nomination than Bernie Sanders' campaign--his ground game, social media, supporters, and his staff and himself--should all campaign hard to elect the nominee, Hillary Clinton. It would help, of course, if they/you all quit mischaracterizing her with right-wing-style smears meant to harm her chances.
In the end a Democrat wins and Bill will be our First Gentleman.
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)pandr32
(11,574 posts)Bill Clinton still has quite a bit of support in the Southern States.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)So the temporary victory will be a peril victory. But it is really not a victory at all until Super Tuesday -- which will likely change these smiles into frowns - big time.
book_worm
(15,951 posts)Where he hopes to win predominately white states like Massachusetts and Minnesota. Oh, and his homestate of Vermont.
madokie
(51,076 posts)its katybar the door for Hillary. Bernie will be all in from that point onward. The fact that he almost won Nevada says a lot about his electability. A month ago he was down 30 or so points there and hill needing some shenanigans to eck out a win says a lot.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)and with that, I am trashing this thread.
oasis
(49,370 posts)I'm ready to get to work.
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)We know we have the right candidate. Why do we have to wait while the voters decide?
Didn't anyone tell them that it's her turn?
Sheesh!
oasis
(49,370 posts)"No more kid gloves" campaign.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)jonjon
(68 posts)Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)Ole Bernie Who by Super Tuesday.
Gore1FL
(21,126 posts)What will be interesting is by how much.
Robbins
(5,066 posts)even before we knew the caucus states were fixed for clinton we knew she would win SC.
enjoy it while you can.come november republicans will be laughing at you when trump wins.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Cant wait!
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Cant wait!
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)eggplant
(3,911 posts)He seems to be kicking her ass in the popular vote 60-40 so far. And for an insurgent running without any support of the national party, he's only down *one* pledged delegate after three states.
Looking at a crystal ball is fun and all, but actual results matter more. Nevada was supposed to be a blowout for Hillary, right?
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)A wins a win afterall.
I do think SC will be a big win for Hillary though.
Just my opinion.
eilen
(4,950 posts)go to the Democrat in the General Election is seen as the linchpin.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... which one I like the sound of better.
Vinca
(50,255 posts)For the life of me I don't understand the AA backing for this woman. Guess if she's elected they'll get the lower wage they seem to want and the huge college debt. Enjoy.