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Halliburton

(1,802 posts)
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:21 PM Feb 2016

BREAKING: DNC FUNNELLING MONEY TO HILLARY


Behind the scenes at the Democratic National Committee’s summer meeting in Minneapolis last August, campaign officials for Hillary Clinton were making a hard sell to the state parties.

In private huddles, they urged state officials to sign onto an ambitious fundraising endeavorthat would allow Clinton’s presidential bid, the DNC and the state parties to scoop up and share big checks from wealthy donors. It would mark the earliest creation of a joint fundraising committee between a presidential candidate and the party, and it would be the biggest ever, thanks to a 2014 Supreme Court decision that knocked down a cap on how much donors could give to federal campaigns in a single year.

A record 32 state parties signed on to the fund, allowing the committee to solicit donations 130 times greater than what a supporter can give to Clinton’s campaign for the primary.

But the states have yet to see a financial windfall. Meanwhile, Clinton’s own campaign has been a major beneficiary, getting an infusion of low-dollar contributions through the committee at a time when rival Bernie Sanders’s army of small donors is helping him close in on her financially. The fund is run by Clinton campaign staff, and its treasurer is Clinton’s chief operating officer.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/democratic-party-fundraising-effort-helps-clinton-find-new-donors-too/2016/02/19/b8535cea-d68f-11e5-b195-2e29a4e13425_story.html

Pretty telling that even with Lil' Debbie's shennanigans, Hillary is still struggling to find enough donors to keep her extravagant campaign afloat
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BREAKING: DNC FUNNELLING MONEY TO HILLARY (Original Post) Halliburton Feb 2016 OP
Which is why they will never again get a penny from me. n/t djean111 Feb 2016 #1
Me either MissDeeds Feb 2016 #9
The Democratic Party has abandoned us. Duval Feb 2016 #101
In Florida you can't vote in the primaries unless you register to either party. Lunabell Feb 2016 #112
My grandson just changed his registration from Independent (he was not thinking when he registered, djean111 Feb 2016 #121
"Right, right. You're bloody-well right." Eleanors38 Feb 2016 #15
Zero Integrity Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #51
Or me. 840high Feb 2016 #56
+ 1,000,000,000 - What You Said !!! WillyT Feb 2016 #82
+1 nt Zorra Feb 2016 #120
Good luck with this strategy. Fearless Feb 2016 #2
she is dead to me. roguevalley Feb 2016 #50
It sucks when your opponent has no low information voters, because then they read stories like this. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #3
CORRUPT TO THE CORE! I want a TRUSTWORTHY, HONEST, DECENT, HONORABLE AND AUTHENTIC PRESIDENT! in_cog_ni_to Feb 2016 #4
+1,000,000!!! cui bono Feb 2016 #6
+1,000,001 dchill Feb 2016 #10
+1,000,002! nc4bo Feb 2016 #25
1,000,003! hifiguy Feb 2016 #38
+1,000,003 (& another $3 to Bern) Mudcat Feb 2016 #53
.+10 840high Feb 2016 #58
Plus Billions And Billions And Billions cantbeserious Feb 2016 #79
Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #90
You're posting lies from a site who's banner states Dr Hobbitstein Feb 2016 #115
How many paid trolls you think we have on here? SCantiGOP Feb 2016 #117
+ billions farleftlib Feb 2016 #91
+ a brazillion! truebluegreen Feb 2016 #113
They will never get a penny from me ever. Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #5
They don't need our pennies Matariki Feb 2016 #11
Sorry that threat no longer moves me. Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #21
In my more cynical moments I sometimes suspect collusion Matariki Feb 2016 #27
Exactly! I am done with it. Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #35
collusion, shared interest, it's starting to blur together MisterP Feb 2016 #49
in all my moments i suspect exactly this nt redruddyred Feb 2016 #96
I use the Harlem Glogetrotter analogy as it fits like a glove to our political situation. Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #114
That's a well constructed analogy. Matariki Feb 2016 #141
I can't believe Bernie can compete with this level of collusion. plus5mace Feb 2016 #7
It is WE who will do it. dchill Feb 2016 #12
I don't know how it's going to turn out but it's already been a remarkable Jarqui Feb 2016 #42
They say that you can tell how a candidate will do business in office Lorien Feb 2016 #8
And Bernie even pays his interns n/t TexasBushwhacker Feb 2016 #146
If she's so experienced and well-prepared... dchill Feb 2016 #13
Cleaning bills for the Royal Regalia and the tiara? hifiguy Feb 2016 #17
Cause she blew a 30 point lead in Iowa and then spent it all pulling a popular vote TIE. Volaris Feb 2016 #31
Totally agree Trajan Feb 2016 #60
What makes it worse is that Iowa went down the way it did Volaris Feb 2016 #72
If there are numerous shenanigans again today in NV, Karma13612 Feb 2016 #136
Agreed. We will know by morning tho. Volaris Feb 2016 #137
You don't think Bill and Chelsea work cheap do you? n/t A Simple Game Feb 2016 #67
Because she was... WiffenPoof Feb 2016 #68
A combination of bvf Feb 2016 #95
No WONDER we keep hearing about how MUCH Clinton has raised for other Dem candidates! mhatrw Feb 2016 #14
^^^^* another talking point dismissed! Kittycat Feb 2016 #74
Corruption in its purest form. hifiguy Feb 2016 #16
they have this crap and they have superdelegates dana_b Feb 2016 #18
The two are connected. Beowulf Feb 2016 #46
Best democracy money can buy whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #19
Hillary is not a person of the people. libtodeath Feb 2016 #20
and the leaders of the party are not for us either dana_b Feb 2016 #23
They are more interested in power and prestige then helping us. libtodeath Feb 2016 #26
exactly dana_b Feb 2016 #37
BREAKING: DNC FUNNELLING MONEY TO BERNIE brooklynite Feb 2016 #22
so he's raising money for them dana_b Feb 2016 #32
Shift the blame UglyGreed Feb 2016 #89
Thanks for the facts. nt stevenleser Feb 2016 #36
33 whole thousand? basselope Feb 2016 #61
And Bernie still is waiting on dates from them to "joint campaign" Paulie Feb 2016 #63
Agreed. I'm not sure why Wapo is posting this as if it's something unprecedented passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #84
Because it's the WAPO and some people eat it right up... Agschmid Feb 2016 #132
Well, that does apply to both sides of this democratic fight passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #142
It does. Agschmid Feb 2016 #143
lol, Sanders has the same deal with the DNC bigtree Feb 2016 #97
And why would he? Under current "leadership" the DNC would just funnel that money to Hillary. (nt) w4rma Feb 2016 #103
No, they wouldn't...because they can't brooklynite Feb 2016 #154
they take things and run with them before finding out the basics treestar Feb 2016 #150
More anti-democratic BS from the Establishment. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #24
It's not the Democratic party, it's the Clinton party jfern Feb 2016 #28
The Clinton Corruption Party cali Feb 2016 #41
Put the whole damn family, including Hedge Fund Son-in-Law hifiguy Feb 2016 #43
I second that emotion. you've nailed it. Merryland Feb 2016 #57
The Democratic Party is undemocratic and corrupt to the core. CharlotteVale Feb 2016 #29
Is there any way that we the people can lodge a class action jwirr Feb 2016 #30
Will you be filing one agains the Sanders campaign as well? brooklynite Feb 2016 #45
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #33
That's why I NEVER donate to any parties or pacs. When I donate it's always direct to napi21 Feb 2016 #34
Hillary is corrupt through and through. So is DWS and the DNC cali Feb 2016 #39
HUGE K&R desmiller Feb 2016 #40
Is this any different than money funneled to Sanders? Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #44
So she is basically stealing state election funds? fbc Feb 2016 #47
yes and it's money that will be wasted on her instead of being used on down ticket races corkhead Feb 2016 #138
Hence, her big zentrum Feb 2016 #48
Not a penny of that $$$ is mine. I donate directly to the Purveyor Feb 2016 #52
Hillary has raised $32 million dollars for DNC v $0 from Senator Sanders. wyldwolf Feb 2016 #54
His coattails will be large but will not be of the same corrupt system newthinking Feb 2016 #62
No duh wolf OxQQme Feb 2016 #69
That is your take away from this story? Wow! nt Logical Feb 2016 #88
My god. *Whoosh!* bvf Feb 2016 #98
BAU Old Codger Feb 2016 #55
So they choose to be even more corrupt. newthinking Feb 2016 #59
As much money as they burn on private jets and the places they stay, I would imagine it takes a LiberalArkie Feb 2016 #64
Who would have ever suspected Debbie Wasserman Schultz of playing favorites? Jack Rabbit Feb 2016 #65
I recently read a new book about Nixon hifiguy Feb 2016 #73
Bernie can get his cut, too--as soon as he does the events he promised DWS that he would do--and MADem Feb 2016 #66
Haven't you noticed yet............ nolabels Feb 2016 #106
I've noticed that he hasn't done any of the campaign fundraisers he signed up to do, as he has done MADem Feb 2016 #110
even after brooklyn informed them how it was treestar Feb 2016 #152
This is going to become illegal behavior soon, I hope november3rd Feb 2016 #70
Democrats gave money to a Democratic candidate that they like? Tarc Feb 2016 #71
I think you are missing the point. PeterGM Feb 2016 #111
DNC Funneled Money to Obama in 2008!!!!! firebrand80 Feb 2016 #75
The Clintons might consider usurping the old British tradition Depaysement Feb 2016 #76
DNC Funneled Money to John Kerry in 2004!!!!!! firebrand80 Feb 2016 #77
she's mismanaging her campaign yet again; imagine what a disaster she'd be amborin Feb 2016 #78
I hate these people berningman Feb 2016 #80
I hope she tells them to cut it out NowSam Feb 2016 #81
oh boy.... what a corrupt situation.... dirty trick... kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #83
You people are ridiculous. Akicita Feb 2016 #85
I stopped donating to the party when they renewed the Patriot act. ReasonableToo Feb 2016 #86
hmmm UglyGreed Feb 2016 #87
+1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000! n.t. RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #92
Not another dime to the DNC from me until DWS is gone and a progressive is in charge. Zen Democrat Feb 2016 #93
I recall a DU member UglyGreed Feb 2016 #94
Hillary is bringing a lot of money into the DNC. alfredo Feb 2016 #99
This is why I don't support the DNC or contribute to them 4dsc Feb 2016 #100
That's not a funnel JonathanRackham Feb 2016 #102
Thread winner! davidpdx Feb 2016 #105
That pic of DWS looks like a mug shot Duckfan Feb 2016 #104
So Debbie is not just biased and untrustworthy, she is also corrupt? Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #107
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Feb 2016 #108
so there's no basis for lawsuit or complaint to FEC here? zazen Feb 2016 #109
So you want to sue the DNC for doing with Clinton what they're doing with Sanders? brooklynite Feb 2016 #122
The DNC emailed me a chance to meet Obama in Austin, TX - TBF Feb 2016 #116
Enjoy your trip! TexasMommaWithAHat Feb 2016 #119
No money from me to the DNC! TexasMommaWithAHat Feb 2016 #118
This is one of themost embarassing threads I've read... brooklynite Feb 2016 #123
What is embarassing is that you would try to rationalize the dishonesty that envelops the rhett o rick Feb 2016 #124
If the Sanders Campaign is unhappy...why did they sign a JFA as well? brooklynite Feb 2016 #125
I hope you realize that that's not an argument. Arguing via questions doesn't work. rhett o rick Feb 2016 #129
"If you have a case, spell it out..." brooklynite Feb 2016 #130
And so you deduce that these shinanigans are ok with the Sanders' campaign? rhett o rick Feb 2016 #131
+1. Unbelievable on a Democratic site. spyker29 Feb 2016 #127
Yes... it most certainly is! And, yes... that appears to be the case. NurseJackie Feb 2016 #151
It's been decided ahead of time that there is CORRUPTION! treestar Feb 2016 #153
D-I-S-G-U-S-T-I-N-G Faux pas Feb 2016 #126
Explain the cheating... brooklynite Feb 2016 #128
It's well explained in the article. rhett o rick Feb 2016 #133
Yet ANOTHER example of how SOME candidates Karma13612 Feb 2016 #134
Hillary should have kept the money she has helped raise totaling more that 32 million. Historic NY Feb 2016 #135
Turd Way politics as usual! wolfie001 Feb 2016 #139
knr nt chknltl Feb 2016 #140
Money flows to all DownriverDem Feb 2016 #144
After two losses, maybe Sanders should invoke the Joint Funding Agreement HE signed... brooklynite Feb 2016 #145
Wrong - it's the other way around, Clinton is "funneling" money to the Democratic Party.... George II Feb 2016 #147
Kick for UglyGreed Feb 2016 #148
Kick UglyGreed Feb 2016 #149
I guess you missed this article - "Clinton donates millions to strapped Democratic Party" George II Feb 2016 #155
 

MissDeeds

(7,499 posts)
9. Me either
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:34 PM
Feb 2016

I've been a Democrat all my life, but after the way the party hierarchy has tried to thwart the democratic process in this primary, I'm done. After voting for Bernie in the caucus, my husband and I are switching our affiliation to Independent.

 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
101. The Democratic Party has abandoned us.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 11:55 PM
Feb 2016

We're thinking the same, MissDeeds. If she wins, at least Bernie and the rest of us have started a real movement. Bernie will be too old to run in 8 years, but someone will come along to pick up and continue his message.

Lunabell

(6,078 posts)
112. In Florida you can't vote in the primaries unless you register to either party.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 09:52 AM
Feb 2016

That is the only reason I am not an Independent.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
121. My grandson just changed his registration from Independent (he was not thinking when he registered,
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:21 AM
Feb 2016

he meant to register non-affiliated) to Democrat last week. So he could vote for Bernie in the primary.
He works at a large grocery store, all his co-workers are for Bernie (and they are outraged over the TPP!), one manager seems to be for Trump, and Hillary only gets "NO, not Hillary" remarks. They are not to talk about politics in the break-room, of course. But he has seen a few Bernie stickers, no Hillary stickers, and no Trump or any other GOP stickers. A few old Romney stickers.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
3. It sucks when your opponent has no low information voters, because then they read stories like this.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:23 PM
Feb 2016

They don't appreciate stories like this. They react appropriately. Polls reflect that. And here we are with a real horse race.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
4. CORRUPT TO THE CORE! I want a TRUSTWORTHY, HONEST, DECENT, HONORABLE AND AUTHENTIC PRESIDENT!
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:26 PM
Feb 2016

Bernie Sanders!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

Response to in_cog_ni_to (Reply #4)

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
115. You're posting lies from a site who's banner states
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 10:37 AM
Feb 2016

"Exposing & Combating Liberal Media Bias". You don't even try to hide it anymore, do you?

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
11. They don't need our pennies
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:35 PM
Feb 2016

They've got their shiny new rule allowing unlimited funds from lobbyists & PAC donations. They don't need us except to vote. Which we'll do because "do you want Donald Trump to win???"

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
21. Sorry that threat no longer moves me.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:58 PM
Feb 2016

If its death by a thousand paper cuts by Hillary or A bullet to the head by a Republican. I will take the quick one.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
27. In my more cynical moments I sometimes suspect collusion
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 08:02 PM
Feb 2016

when the difference between parties are mainly culture war stuff while both 'sides' quietly give corporate powers everything they want.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
49. collusion, shared interest, it's starting to blur together
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 08:23 PM
Feb 2016

the New Dems' explicit purpose was to put conservative GOP policies into the party, while the GOP swung right at the same time: the end of the Cold War spooked the masters in the early 90s as bad as the Church Committee and Carter's cleanup campaign: the late 70s is when the neocons and fundagelicals took over, all following the Powell Memo; same story as both Red Scares

orchestrated

we need to make the political system robust against people who openly mock the idea of democracy

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
114. I use the Harlem Glogetrotter analogy as it fits like a glove to our political situation.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 10:32 AM
Feb 2016

The Globetrotters always play the Washington Generals and many in the crowd, especially the kids, think it is a real game. Both sides play hard, but the end result is preordained.

The Republicans and Democrats fight and snipe at each other, shifting the blame for America's problems on the other side's supporters and/or policies. The culpable parties are in the shadows reaping all of the benefits. They get followers who treat them like their favorite sports teams, ignoring their "team's" faults and painting the opposition with everything that is wrong. Both teams are owned by the same corporation and the owners are taking all the money out of the back of the arena.

Hillary is the promoter selling the tickets for the owners and telling the fans that it is all real! Bernie is more like the guy watching a magician and pointing out how he is doing each trick designed to misdirect and fool the people. Unfortunately, too many want to be deceived and resent hearing how they are being taken advantage of!

plus5mace

(140 posts)
7. I can't believe Bernie can compete with this level of collusion.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:31 PM
Feb 2016

If Bernie can defeat the entire power base of the Democratic Party in their own primary he is unstoppable.

Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
42. I don't know how it's going to turn out but it's already been a remarkable
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 08:12 PM
Feb 2016

ride with Bernie. For the next decade and maybe forever, he's changing American politics.

He's touched a nerve similar to that which Obama found. People want BIG change.

To some extent, (I wouldn't dare compare the mentality, morality or ideology of the two groups) Trump's done something kind of similar - touched a nerve but of the ignorant and racists .

Quote from that article

“I’ve never seen anything like this,” said Lawrence Noble, a former general counsel of the Federal Election Commission who is now with the nonpartisan Campaign Legal Center. “Joint victory funds are not intended to be separate operating committees that just support a single candidate. But they appear to be turning the traditional notion of a joint committee into a Hillary fundraising committee.


I read and saw somewhere that Hillary's campaign is even using DNC offices - sharing them. Can't they see how unfair that is? Of course they can. Now this sleazy money grab.

To their credit about 18 states wouldn't go along with it. And then I read this:
But the states have yet to see a financial windfall. Meanwhile, Clinton’s own campaign has been a major beneficiary, getting an infusion of low-dollar contributions through the committee at a time when rival Bernie Sanders’s army of small donors is helping him close in on her financially. The fund is run by Clinton campaign staff, and its treasurer is Clinton’s chief operating officer.


So we Bernie supporters have been fending off criticism that Bernie hasn't been contributing to this tangled, corrupt scam at the DNC. But the facts are: the states haven't seen money from it either because Hillary got it.

This woman is too much.

Lorien

(31,935 posts)
8. They say that you can tell how a candidate will do business in office
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:33 PM
Feb 2016

by the way they run their campaign. Great for Bernie, TERRIBLE for Hillary!

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
31. Cause she blew a 30 point lead in Iowa and then spent it all pulling a popular vote TIE.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 08:03 PM
Feb 2016

Let them waste their filthy fucking lucre, as far as I'm concerned...I don't think it will buy them a win this time.
The jig us up, and the Electorate has finally caught wise.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
72. What makes it worse is that Iowa went down the way it did
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 09:00 PM
Feb 2016

And then Debbie had the gall to send me an email asking for MOAR MONIES! Because REASONS!

whatever, if they are going to waste it on tie votes, I'd rather send it to Sanders anyway.

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
136. If there are numerous shenanigans again today in NV,
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 12:58 PM
Feb 2016

I hope we got louder and more insistent to know the truth about the actual caucus results.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
137. Agreed. We will know by morning tho.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:21 PM
Feb 2016

Clinton assumed that she had the whole thing in her pocket. If Bernie gets the Presidency, his secret service codename should be Pickpocket, cause that's how he will have one this thing...One little bit at a time=)

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
95. A combination of
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 10:20 PM
Feb 2016

arrogance (early on) and a late panic that only seems to do more and more damage to her, uh, brand.

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
14. No WONDER we keep hearing about how MUCH Clinton has raised for other Dem candidates!
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:41 PM
Feb 2016

She is tithing them very same money THEY THEMSELVES raised!

Praise the Lord!

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
16. Corruption in its purest form.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:51 PM
Feb 2016

Somewhere in the great beyond, Richard Nixon is laughing his ass off.

Beowulf

(761 posts)
46. The two are connected.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 08:20 PM
Feb 2016

Many of the super delegates are also office holders/seekers who need campaign funds. Endorse Bernie and watch your access to these funds disappear.

The Clintons have always been big pay-to-play politicians. Remember the Lincoln Bedroom? We shouldn't be surprised by this, but it that doesn't make this any less sleazy.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
37. exactly
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 08:08 PM
Feb 2016

I not only won't vote for her Highness, I will only vote for Dems who do not partake in this crap. I am done with them.

brooklynite

(94,503 posts)
22. BREAKING: DNC FUNNELLING MONEY TO BERNIE
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:59 PM
Feb 2016

This is a Joint-Fundraising agreement; i.e. the two entities raise funds together and spilt the contributions.

Want to know who else has a Joint-Fundraising agreement?

Sanders campaign inks joint fundraising pact with DNC

Bernie Sanders' presidential campaign has signed a joint fundraising agreement with the Democratic National Committee, the DNC confirmed to POLITICO.

The move, which comes more than two months after Hillary Clinton's campaign signed such an agreement in August, will allow Sanders' team to raise up to $33,400 for the committee as well as $2,700 for the campaign from individual donors at events.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/bernie-sanders-2016-fundraising-dnc-215559

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
32. so he's raising money for them
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 08:04 PM
Feb 2016

From the OP article:

In comparison, the treasurer of the Bernie Victory Fund, Sanders’s joint fundraising committee with the party, is the DNC’s chief financial officer, Bradley Marshall. So far, the fund has raised just $1,000 — a donation from the DNC.

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So really?? You want to compare?? It's a f-ing joke and the leaders as well as Hillary and her cronies are corrupt to the bone!!!!!! All hail the Queen!!!

Paulie

(8,462 posts)
63. And Bernie still is waiting on dates from them to "joint campaign"
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 08:39 PM
Feb 2016
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/clinton-sanders-party-fundraising-217293


Sanders, meanwhile, has never made raising money for the party a priority, despite recently proving his fundraising prowess by signing a letter for the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee that brought the party group over $1 million, according to a Sanders aide. His campaign inked a fundraising agreement with the DNC in November, a few months after Clinton’s was signed, but it could never nail down a date for any fundraising events with the committee — and the Vermont-based operation now says it’s entirely up to the DNC to identify some dates that work for it.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
84. Agreed. I'm not sure why Wapo is posting this as if it's something unprecedented
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 09:39 PM
Feb 2016

Candidates have always been able to do joint fundraising with the party.

This is totally confusing to me.

bigtree

(85,987 posts)
97. lol, Sanders has the same deal with the DNC
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 10:25 PM
Feb 2016

...but hasn't delivered more than squat on his obligation.

Really amazingly stupid, hypocritical outrage.

 

w4rma

(31,700 posts)
103. And why would he? Under current "leadership" the DNC would just funnel that money to Hillary. (nt)
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 12:45 AM
Feb 2016

brooklynite

(94,503 posts)
154. No, they wouldn't...because they can't
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 11:35 AM
Feb 2016

A Joint-Fundraising agreement splits funds between the Candidate and the Party in a prescribed manner. However, the Party can ONLY give $5,000 to a candidate's campaign. Which you'd have know if you'd checked with the FEC. But it's so much easier to jump to "we all know" conclusions, right?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
150. they take things and run with them before finding out the basics
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 11:27 AM
Feb 2016

then end up looking dumb.

Thanks for the information!

jfern

(5,204 posts)
28. It's not the Democratic party, it's the Clinton party
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 08:03 PM
Feb 2016

The party only exists to help the Clintons. It's time to take our party back.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
43. Put the whole damn family, including Hedge Fund Son-in-Law
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 08:13 PM
Feb 2016

on a raft and set it adift. Right after doing the same thing to the Bush Crime Family.

Sick to the teeth of these two corrupt, self-serving families of crooks.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
30. Is there any way that we the people can lodge a class action
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 08:03 PM
Feb 2016

suit against DWS and the DNC? They are destroying our party.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
34. That's why I NEVER donate to any parties or pacs. When I donate it's always direct to
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 08:04 PM
Feb 2016

a particular candidate. I've always done that. I worked hard to get that money and I won't let anyone else decide who gets it.

 

fbc

(1,668 posts)
47. So she is basically stealing state election funds?
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 08:21 PM
Feb 2016

It seems like these states should be suing her campaign for fraud.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
48. Hence, her big
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 08:23 PM
Feb 2016

…endorsements from "Names" in the Democratic Party.

Shameful.

But not unheard of in the Democratic Party—just more efficient now. It echoes so much the MacCarthy-Humphrey primary—that was one of the things that I've always seen as causal in making so many Democrats tune out and stop being interested or involved in the party or politics.

My dad has described to me what it was like in the local meeting where delegates were being chosen and the room was overwhelming for MacCarthy. He said the Humphrey-wing behaved almost like thugs, with threatening body language etc. The actual votes (by hand raising) were not recognized and delegates for Humphrey were sent to the convention from this local.

This may be happening again, but in a sanitized version, using Super Delegates and media-wide "talking points" and bottomless funding.




wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
54. Hillary has raised $32 million dollars for DNC v $0 from Senator Sanders.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 08:28 PM
Feb 2016


Not only is he not a democrat he doesn't support the party.

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
62. His coattails will be large but will not be of the same corrupt system
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 08:38 PM
Feb 2016

The Democratic party is US, the people who belong to it (the party). The DNC are not "the party". That is more clear than ever.

Just like corporations are not "People", the DNC is not "the Party". Enough of that nonsense.

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
59. So they choose to be even more corrupt.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 08:34 PM
Feb 2016

Besides ignoring the will of the population and stacking the primaries they will engage even more corruption from the corporations to win. If that does not expose the whole idea of "incremental change"by the current elite as phony I don't know what does.

LiberalArkie

(15,713 posts)
64. As much money as they burn on private jets and the places they stay, I would imagine it takes a
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 08:40 PM
Feb 2016

lot of money for even the caviar.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
73. I recently read a new book about Nixon
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 09:01 PM
Feb 2016

by a guy named Tim Weiner - "One Man Against The World" which includes lots of recently released tapes. I can only compare DWS to John Mitchell, the former Nixon AG who ran CREEP (Committee to Re-Elect the President, and was there EVER a better acronym?). Mitchell eventually became the only AG ever to go to the Big House. Anything was justified to advance Richard Nixon, according to Mitchell. The similarities are rather glaring.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
66. Bernie can get his cut, too--as soon as he does the events he promised DWS that he would do--and
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 08:49 PM
Feb 2016

hasn't. Did y'all MISS this article a few months back????


http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/bernie-sanders-2016-fundraising-dnc-215559

He knows how the game works--he's been raking in the dough at fundraisers for years, ever since he became a Senate candidate over a decade ago. And he has been a happy attendee at dozens and dozens of DNC Big Donor events, AND taken his cut from them.

ALL he has to do is say he's available, give the DNC a few dates, and SHOW UP.

LOL at the characterizations in this thread..!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
110. I've noticed that he hasn't done any of the campaign fundraisers he signed up to do, as he has done
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 09:10 AM
Feb 2016

in the past. http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/259298-sanders-dnc-strike-fundraising-deal

Bernie Sanders’s presidential campaign will jointly raise money with the Democratic National Committee going forward, a DNC official told The Hill on Thursday.


The Sanders campaign and the national party have reached an agreement to coordinate their fundraising efforts, enabling the two to solicit checks together in an effort that could boost the DNC’s war chest for the general election.

Hillary Clinton’s campaign signed a similar agreement with the DNC in late August.


He gets a piece of the take immediately just by showing up--it's an easy way to rake in large amounts quickly. And as we have learned, he has done it before.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
152. even after brooklyn informed them how it was
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 11:28 AM
Feb 2016

they continue to do the Corruption Dance. It's what they want to believe.

PeterGM

(71 posts)
111. I think you are missing the point.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 09:26 AM
Feb 2016

The outrage is that people are discovering that the democratic party structure is deeply undemocratic, and that's what people are railing about
If the DNC were interested in objectively nominating the candidate that the people wanted the most, they would stay completely neutral n this nomination process... (Full disclosure I'm a Dane, and fascinated by the way american politics work) It feels to me that the Democratic party is structured in a way that insults the intelligence of the voters, by having a "we know best" attitude.

Just to be clear, I'm not railing against Clinton, I just think there shouldn't be favoritism from the people running the nomination process... That would be like having Real Madrid fans as referees in a match Real vs Barcelona... It just looks bad.

firebrand80

(2,760 posts)
75. DNC Funneled Money to Obama in 2008!!!!!
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 09:26 PM
Feb 2016

Senator Barack Obama’s presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee are establishing a joint fund-raising committee, a step that is usually only undertaken by a party’s presumptive nominee but in this case is being driven by how long it has taken the Democrats to settle their nomination fight.

The joint fund-raising agreement, which allows donors to write a single large check which is then divvied up between the candidate’s campaign and the party, was first reported by Time magazine’s The Page and confirmed by the Obama campaign.



http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/25/obama-and-dnc-set-up-fund-raising-committee/?_r=0

Depaysement

(1,835 posts)
76. The Clintons might consider usurping the old British tradition
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 09:28 PM
Feb 2016

Of granting peerages. Sir Marc Lasry, Sir Lloyd Blankfein, etc.

It's a long, long way from Hope.

firebrand80

(2,760 posts)
77. DNC Funneled Money to John Kerry in 2004!!!!!!
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 09:30 PM
Feb 2016

Sen. John Kerry and the Democratic National Committee have formed a joint fundraising venture designed to maximize donors’ ability to write a single check to benefit the Massachusetts Senator’s presidential campaign as well as the national party.
The committee — Kerry Victory 2004 — was established March 22 and is the first such undertaking for a Democratic presidential candidate and the DNC. The agreement enables a donor to contribute simultaneously to Kerry and the national committee.


http://www.rollcall.com/issues/49_104/-5045-1.html

NowSam

(1,252 posts)
81. I hope she tells them to cut it out
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 09:37 PM
Feb 2016

and knock it off, while reassuring us that there is no real conflict of interest. I now believe she is taking a dive on purpose and that her real goal is a financial fleecing.

Akicita

(1,196 posts)
85. You people are ridiculous.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 09:49 PM
Feb 2016

Don't you understand that the coronation must go on. What other candidate has dodged sniper bullets for America? Who has stood arm in arm with the victims of her husbands sexual depredations, making sure they receive justice? Are you aware that she has the economic moxy to turn a $1,000 investment into a $100,000 profit just by reading the Wall Street Journal?

I am surprised she has not been campaigning on her investment acumen. She must be saving it as a secret weapon. Put her in office, give her control of the Treasury, give her a copy of the Wall Street Journal, let her invest in the cattle futures market, and our 19 trillion dollar debt will just disappear. She's proven it.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
94. I recall a DU member
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 10:19 PM
Feb 2016

a few months ago telling me about big ticket fundraisers and how it helps the candidates up and down the line and we "regular people" benefit from these types of deals. Almost the exact same wording used in this article...............

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
99. Hillary is bringing a lot of money into the DNC.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 10:40 PM
Feb 2016

Down ticket candidates will look favorable upon the politician that is helping fund their campaign.
It works that way all the way down to the local level.

Duckfan

(1,268 posts)
104. That pic of DWS looks like a mug shot
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 04:18 AM
Feb 2016

Did she just get released in time to F-up our democracy?

When I hear DNC, or DWS I now think of the anti-christ.

Didn't use to, but now I do.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
107. So Debbie is not just biased and untrustworthy, she is also corrupt?
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 07:30 AM
Feb 2016

Can we ditch the chair please? Pretty soon? Like: yesterday?

What is that horrible DINO still doing there?!?

zazen

(2,978 posts)
109. so there's no basis for lawsuit or complaint to FEC here?
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 08:52 AM
Feb 2016

I plead total ignorance about this, but it seems like going forward one way to hold them accountable and increase the visibility of this is to bring a major class action suit, or voting rights action, or something, for this behavior.

TBF

(32,047 posts)
116. The DNC emailed me a chance to meet Obama in Austin, TX -
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 10:37 AM
Feb 2016

it is March 11th and I will be away for Spring Break. The cheapest ticket was $250, and there was a $10,000 option for a couple to attend, dinner & photo with Obama. How cool would that be? But for much less than $10,000 I will be visiting a national park with my kiddos and NOT giving money to the DNC.

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
118. No money from me to the DNC!
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:09 AM
Feb 2016

None.

I live in a red state where money from the national party is not benefiting me, anyway. Why in the hell would I send money to the national party so the Clintons, Debbie Wasserman Shultz, and corporatists can scheme against my candidate?

HELL, NO!

brooklynite

(94,503 posts)
123. This is one of themost embarassing threads I've read...
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:25 AM
Feb 2016

Apparently a misleading/dishonest title is all it takes to generate outrage today. Several people have pointed out that the actual story is about a joint-fundraising agreement, which both Clinton and Sanders have previously agreed to.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
124. What is embarassing is that you would try to rationalize the dishonesty that envelops the
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:39 AM
Feb 2016

DNC / Clinton Campaign.

Your post does nothing to refute the OP. Show us that the Sanders Campaign is happy with what is happening.

We are fighting the corrupt political culture of the rich, super-rich, and super-duper-rich and their strangle hold on the political process. We want the People to have more power in the political process and not the super-rich that some seem to worship.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
129. I hope you realize that that's not an argument. Arguing via questions doesn't work.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 12:07 PM
Feb 2016

If you have a case, spell it out. I don't know the circumstances at the time of the signing, if in fact they did sign. You've made no case. I also don't know if the Sanders' campaign is happy with the results. I don't trust the billionaire backed DNC to be honest. They want Clinton so bad that you should be skeptical. Why do the rich and super-rich want Clinton sooo bad?

It's sad that now some Democrats are embracing Citizens United and the Corp-Media because they favor Clinton.

This is a class war and Sanders and Clinton are on opposite sides.

brooklynite

(94,503 posts)
130. "If you have a case, spell it out..."
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 12:14 PM
Feb 2016

Okay -
1. Joint Fundraising Agreements are a part of the fundraising process for campaigns.
2. JFAs have nothing to do with Citizens United, which deals with independent expenditures.
2. No campaign is obliged to sign one.
3. Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton chose to sign one.
4. Bernie Sanders hasn't complained about signing one.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
131. And so you deduce that these shinanigans are ok with the Sanders' campaign?
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 12:22 PM
Feb 2016

"Clinton’s own campaign has been a major beneficiary, getting an infusion of low-dollar contributions through the committee at a time when rival Bernie Sanders’s army of small donors is helping him close in on her financially. The fund is run by Clinton campaign staff, and its treasurer is Clinton’s chief operating officer."

The hubris of the DNC and Clinton campaign will be their downfall. The "anything goes" is not a Democratic Principle.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
151. Yes... it most certainly is! And, yes... that appears to be the case.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 11:27 AM
Feb 2016

It's difficult for me to determine with great certainty whether it's a matter of someone mis-reading, or not reading, or deliberately "misunderstanding".

Whatever it may be, and regardless of anyone's motivations, what's NOT difficult for me to be certain about is that Bernie will not be the nominee. Super Tuesday is coming this way very soon and in due time, threads like this one will become a thing of the past.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
153. It's been decided ahead of time that there is CORRUPTION!
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 11:30 AM
Feb 2016

No facts, please.

Bernie is so entitled to the nomination that Hillary should just step down! (And I've actually seen that posted here). The DNC should bow down to him. The states should change from caucus to primary or the other way round depending on which side factors Bernie, or it's CORRUPTION!

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
133. It's well explained in the article.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 12:42 PM
Feb 2016
“I’ve never seen anything like this,” said Lawrence Noble, a former general counsel of the Federal Election Commission who is now with the nonpartisan Campaign Legal Center. “Joint victory funds are not intended to be separate operating committees that just support a single candidate. But they appear to be turning the traditional notion of a joint committee into a Hillary fundraising committee.”

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
134. Yet ANOTHER example of how SOME candidates
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 12:55 PM
Feb 2016

Are maximizing on dysfunction in the FEC right now.

There must be so many loopholes and poorly defined regs in the current campaign finance law that it can't be effective at all.

This article makes me ill.

But thanks for exposing it so we all know the lengths to which the DNC and HRC will go to land the nomination.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
135. Hillary should have kept the money she has helped raise totaling more that 32 million.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 12:55 PM
Feb 2016

she honored her agreement to help the state parties, BS signed but so far raised $1000. Tell Bernie to live up to the agreement or he should refuse funding or support in the general from the DNC.

wolfie001

(2,227 posts)
139. Turd Way politics as usual!
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:40 PM
Feb 2016

These people have zero in common with the lower and middle classes (under $250,000 is middle class, right Hillary?).

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
144. Money flows to all
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 06:54 PM
Feb 2016

You don't think the repubs are pushing money every which way too? Bernie is not a member of the Democratic Party. I wish he were. Since Citizen United money is coming from everywhere through clever ways. We the people don't even know who is buying our elections. No one is required to report who gives what. It's coming from other countries too. DNC money is only a drop in the bucket.

brooklynite

(94,503 posts)
145. After two losses, maybe Sanders should invoke the Joint Funding Agreement HE signed...
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 06:55 PM
Feb 2016

...if he needs more Democratic support.

George II

(67,782 posts)
147. Wrong - it's the other way around, Clinton is "funneling" money to the Democratic Party....
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 07:10 PM
Feb 2016

....to the tune of $18M last quarter. You know, the party that she's belonged to for decades.

Sanders hasn't funneled a thin dime to the Democratic Party.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
148. Kick for
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 11:17 AM
Feb 2016

some of the Hillary supporters who believe that "regular people" are helped by big money fundraisers

George II

(67,782 posts)
155. I guess you missed this article - "Clinton donates millions to strapped Democratic Party"
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 08:39 PM
Feb 2016
http://kxan.com/2016/02/18/clinton-bid-a-financial-boon-for-strapped-democratic-party/?cid=twitter_KXAN_News

Clinton donates millions to strapped Democratic Party

Associated Press

Published: February 18, 2016, 6:54 am Updated: February 18, 2016, 6:56 am

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So much for the "funneling", eh?
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