2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBody Language Expert: Sanders' Smile is Genuine, Clinton's Hiding Something
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)NOT.
Silly season can't end fast enough.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)convinced you then I don't think anything will........
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)I'm pretty sure it would impossible for you to convince me of anything at this point.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)to refrain from using Fox News in their attack ads...........
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)Some just don't give a fuck.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)JRLeft
(7,010 posts)Especially his policies and her supporters would absolutely get behind Reaganomics.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)about Correct the Record using Fox News and there was no response at all...
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)I think the alerts are flowing today....
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)The censorship police I hate they do not agree with.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)try to pin the authoritarian label on many Bernie Sanders supporters here.....
Bohemianwriter
(978 posts)Petrushka
(3,709 posts)Tanuki
(14,918 posts)more intrusively and harshly if they don't. This could lead to more conditioned smiling in situations in which the smile is a social convention and doesn't really reflect mood. Damned if we do, damned if we don't....
http://www.womenshealthmag.com/life/women-expected-to-smile
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morningfog
(18,115 posts)Faux pas
(14,671 posts)body language expert to tell me he's legit and she's not. It's obvious to anyone with eyes, ears and a brain.
Merryland
(1,134 posts)or spontaneous emotion. She embraces a "crusader" image, but it's unclear exactly what she's crusading for, other than winning.
valerief
(53,235 posts)all american girl
(1,788 posts)So, she doesn't smile right? Sorry, but this is too much!!!
MattP
(3,304 posts)noretreatnosurrender
(1,890 posts)Even though this supports my candidate of choice I reject it. It's silly.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)some people do believe in this, like law enforcement and such.....
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I'm noticing a lot of the new attacks on Clinton are from old tactics brought to us by Fox News. Inside Edition. lol.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)correct the record to stop using Fox News in their ads!!!! BTW also I saw some Reason website (AKA Koch Brother's propaganda) posts on DU as of late. I suggest you should police your own since I've seen you object in using right wing sources many times over these last few months.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I don't have that kind of authoritarian mindset. We just found a major difference.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)who has policed many posts here of Bernie supporters calling them right wingers or Libertarians. Sorry if I have been misinformed by your approach.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Not that it has one single thing to do with this conversation. It also would have nothing to do with policing. I'm not sure what direction you are going.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)to dig up your posts but didn't you just do that in this thread? I have seen you complain many times about sources. BTW you did not address Correct the Record's use of Fox News clips in their ads attacking Bernie Sanders. Don't you think it reflects badly on the candidate you support?
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)my question once again and that is what I expected to happen
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)Bill O'Rielly use to do a segment like this where he would trash democrats.
I'm noticing a lot of the new attacks on Clinton are from old tactics brought to us by Fox News. Inside Edition. lol.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Note the reference to Hitler when they are talking about Pelosi.
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)Are you frigging kidding me?
Did you just imply that someone asking you to hold your own supporters to the same standard you hold Bernie's to is somehow an "authoritarian"?
Seriously?
FSogol
(45,481 posts)JTFrog
(14,274 posts)One anti-Clinton phrase and he'd be welcomed right into the fold.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)when dealing with people - feels Hillary is not honest and also that she is angry that she even has to explain anything or campaign at all. He will be casting his vote for Bernie in the Florida primary, as will his friends and family. Even if he did not go by her demeanor, he does not like her record on war and Wall Street, and feels she represents a past that did his generation no favors.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)results and associations matter.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Even though I noted this person is not in the tank for anyone. I am pretty sure she just did her job and said what her professional opinion is without embellishment. Because I seriously doubt she is in the tank for the Donald. Heck she might even be a Hillary fan that someone tapped to do this. She didn't say Hillary is evil, just that she hides her thoughts more. That does not equal nefarious intentions.
I don't dislike Hillary because she lacks that genuine smile thing. I could not care less. Because even if she did smile genuinely wouldn't like her anymore than the genuine smiling, T-Rump.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Or the phrenologists?
longship
(40,416 posts)This is that Lie to Me crapola. Or like handwriting analysis, also utter crapola.
It is basically nothing but cold reading, albeit possibly with a bit of built-in bias. (Do you think?)
I don't want anybody to support a candidate on such an unscientific notion. Not even if it's one I support. And I certainly wouldn't want anybody to oppose a candidate based on crap like this for the same reason.
BlueMTexpat
(15,368 posts)of sanity. It is much appreciated.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... women to look genuine like men
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)Or is that the Wall Street in her?
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)JRLeft
(7,010 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)JRLeft
(7,010 posts)Obama has done a great job, but his policies have been slanted towards corporations.
That is to be expected from a New Democrat, but we can do a lot better.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)...really stupid shit West has said about Obama is bunk
Where West ass at now?
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)gyroscope
(1,443 posts)the expert is right her body language indicates deceit.
senz
(11,945 posts)I think she was amused by the sexual overtones in being asked if you were alone "all night."
gyroscope
(1,443 posts)any investigator would ask to establish an alibi, the persons whereabouts, etc.
There's nothing sexual about it. Certainly nothing that would warrant such a bizarre reaction.
senz
(11,945 posts)Believe me, I am the furthest thing from a Hill supporter you'll find around here.
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)At least from watching the debates. That is all I will say.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)zappaman
(20,606 posts)asuhornets
(2,405 posts)?resize=485%2C321&zoom=2
Must of caught him on a good day
LAS14
(13,783 posts)Never mind the credibility of the source here. There is a difference. But I don't think it all benefits bernie.
Which smile? There's no doubt in my mind that with Bernie what you see is what you get. He doesn't smile a lot, but I believe it when he does. Hillary is a more complex person. Sometimes she's in situations where there's no complexity. Look at her smile with individuals. But sometimes she's in situations where she understands the complexities, and the situation just doesn't allow them to be pursued. E.g., in a debate. In Bernie's world there are no complexities. "We'll tell the Russians to do this and that. We'll tell Wall Street they have to..." Hillary wants to get things done. Lots of complex stuff is going on in her mind and she has to figure out the best way to communicate it in 90 seconds. She's not lying. She's just not saying everything she thinks because it would take an hour and even if she had an hour her listeners wouldn't hang around. Their brains what start hurting.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)you are referring to.
vdogg
(1,384 posts)Such deep analysis. I'll abandon my vote for Hillary right away!
bigtree
(85,992 posts)...this is ugly face of the DU Sanders campaign, reaching for a new low.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)and Correct the Record is pretty, pretty, pretty ugly.
bigtree
(85,992 posts)...it doesn't get any uglier than that.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)Bill O'Reilly so I do not know who this person is or was or who they hope to be.
bigtree
(85,992 posts)...this is part of a pattern with anti-Hillary posters here.
Right-wing garbage is promoted as legitimate; this from a campaign which professes to be the incarnation of progressive truth. It's very ugly underneath the pro-Sanders/anti-Hillary veneer.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)what you eat and the tv programs you watch carry on......
all american girl
(1,788 posts)all american girl
(1,788 posts)mcar
(42,307 posts)earthside
(6,960 posts)In her heart, Hillary is still a Goldwater Girl.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)It's been obvious for a long, long time.
Beaverhausen
(24,470 posts)Telling us how horrible Hillarys clothing choices are.
Seriously, do you think this wins supporters to your candidate of choice?
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)Bernie does not own a tux and how unkempt his hair is.....
tblue37
(65,339 posts)She is often slammed when she openly expresses emotion, and often those slams are partly or even largely of the sort that would not be directed at men. For example, her uninhibited laugh is mocked in truly nasty ways, and when she raises her voice either to be heard in a large venue or because she feels passionate about something, she is criticized for that, too.
Women are criticized as being too emotional (and by implication not stable, not steady), so when they are trying to function in any field not acceptable to sexists, they have to guard their emotional expressions. It isn't easy to remain emotionally guarded most of the time, as women are expected to do outside of the home, yet drop that practiced reserve at a moment's notice to satisfy the demands of those who expect a woman to emote *to order* and *on cue*.
This is an unfair attack. As Bernie would say, stick to real issues.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)I had no idea who this person was but after the attacks and what others have decided what I watch and who I am yada, yada, yada i'm going to let it stand.
Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)reminds me while I'll vote for Bernie but absolutely stay away from a lot of his supporters online.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)Stop posting this crap.
We win on the issues so we should stick to them.
This "body language" crap is modern age phrenology.
I would rather point to who donates to Hillary since we don't need some phony lie detector to figure out who she is going to support.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)asuhornets
(2,405 posts)has already been debunked.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)rely on such technics huh?
http://www.today.com/id/25676169/ns/today-today_books/t/ex-fbi-agent-helps-decode-body-language/
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)But what does the spirit of Miss Cleo think?
Sid