2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumChelsea gets it: ‘We Are Not Electing a King’
Posted on Feb 16, 2016
Chelsea Clinton has hit out at her mothers Democratic rival, Sen. Bernie Sanders, leveling harsh criticism at his proposal to end mass incarceration in the U.S.
Chelsea told a town hall audience in Cleveland, Ohio, on Tuesday that Sanders goal worried her and is unrealistic, as most of the countrys inmates are held in state, not federal, prisons.
Sanders recently described the U.S. incarceration rate, which is the highest in the world, as an international embarrassment, pledging to prioritize criminal justice reform under his presidency. More than 2.2 million people are behind bars in the nation, according to the latest Department of Justice figures.
We are not electing a king, we are electing a president, Chelsea said. We need someone who understands what they have to do in the job [as president] but also in partnership with Congress, governors and mayors. She added, My mother understands how the government works.
http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/chelsea_clinton_attacks_bernie_sanders_we_are_not_electing_a_king_20160216#14556711553461&action=collapse_widget&id=0&data=
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I get the distinct feeling that Chelsea isn't feeling the #Bern. . .
jfern
(5,204 posts)aren't feeling the Bern.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Paulie
(8,462 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)She's X, but just barely.
Personally, I dont feel like I have a whole hell of a lot in common with her.
Paulie
(8,462 posts)Just wanted clarify.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)a king. She will take queen for $200, Alex.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,110 posts)His name is Bernie!
Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!
bobalew
(321 posts)Sorry I just Could NOT resist....
Karma13612
(4,527 posts)the door open for this response.
brooklynite
(93,874 posts)...twice elected a US Senator and appointed by a popular President as Secretary of State.
Sorry I just Could NOT resist....
choie
(4,102 posts)That she's a shill for Wall Street and the 1%.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)winning election.
Depaysement
(1,835 posts)10 times.
And four times by the people of Burlington.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Debbie will do everything in her power to limit the amount of voting required to mask the selection and coronation processes. It's all about what the Power that Be want. (Although they would be fine with King Bush III too.)
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Quick, protect the drug war gravy train!
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)yourpaljoey
(2,166 posts)monster
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)Sounds familiar. I could be wrong.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)with diamond inlays.
DonCoquixote
(13,615 posts)a lot of the work your mother did was more than the usual sausage making of politics. When she sad "assad must go" she put us on a course for yet another war in Europe, this time with a Russia that remembers how your daddy kicked them while they were down. Half they reason they put up with Vlad the bear rider is because they remember how you mom and dad tried to turn them into another banana republic. Add to this that she undermined Obama for promising to keep ready to bomb Iran, did not help. Then, when she killed ideas like single payer, she was all the more willing to run right over those people, crushing the public option, and running over FDR ideas like Glass steagall.
In short, neither you, nor your daddy, not your mother get to demand praise for the suffering for the sake of democracy, only to run it flat when it stand in the way of your wallet. Take that advice, because since I know you will run for president against Geroge P. Bush in about 10-15 years, you will need a lot more than the family playbook.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Kittycat
(10,493 posts)Exilednight
(9,359 posts)Into a hereditary title.
Donkees
(31,086 posts)The Reddit Puss N' Boots did me in!
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)6chars
(3,967 posts)it is definitely true he would need to work through state and local governments to make a big dent.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)Vincardog
(20,234 posts)KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)Unfortunately for Sanders, Clinton isn't going to just drop out and let him have the nomination because he considers himself superior.
frylock
(34,825 posts)It's becoming painfully evident that Hillary isn't.
Vincardog
(20,234 posts)Bonobo
(29,257 posts)"My mother understands the corrupt process of quid pro quo and the need to go along to get along."
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)King, indeed.
Chichiri
(4,667 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Smoke a doobie in front of the building where she has her 10 million dollar apartment?
Best keep those stoners locked away where they can't ruin the view.
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)her mother was pushing.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Who looks like a princess now?
AzDar
(14,023 posts)Poor, poor dear...
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)Bohemianwriter
(978 posts)Autumn
(44,762 posts)She might feel the bern if she had bills and loans to pay and lived paycheck to paycheck.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)Zzzzzzzz......
Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)Born with a silver foot in her mouth. Of course she's "concerned" about winding down the for-profit prison industry! She's got a stock portfolio to think of, misery of her fellow Americans be damned!
Chichiri
(4,667 posts)I miss those days.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)Don't stop thinking about tomorrow.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)no one had a beef with her until she opened her mouth and lied about bernie's health records. She's what? 35? Not 12.
Logical
(22,457 posts)phleshdef
(11,936 posts)...willingly subjecting herself to the heat of said kitchen.
Chichiri
(4,667 posts)phleshdef
(11,936 posts)If you can't handle criticism, stay the hell off the stage.
Bohemianwriter
(978 posts)And not a teenage brat suffering from chronical affluenza.
Besides, she's a public figure now. When she makes less than intelligent statements on behalf of her mother, then she also becomes a fair target by the undeserving plebs...who don't know how things "really are"...
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)Beacool
(30,244 posts)Congress will flip and members will very liberal. Sanders will pass his very ambitious agenda. Peace and prosperity will reign in the land.
Then I woke up..........
Baitball Blogger
(46,576 posts)That sent chills up my spine, since we are voting against her because we all understand how this government works and it isn't passing muster.
TBF
(31,922 posts)And what does this have to do with the issue of mass incarceration.
This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because attacking a distorted version of a position simply does not constitute an attack on the position itself. One might as well expect an attack on a poor drawing of a person to hurt the person
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/straw-man.html
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)TBF
(31,922 posts)and the republicans do need a decent candidate who represents their views. They are floundering right now. She should jump on the opportunity!
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Nedsdag
(2,437 posts)She's practically a princess.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)after all her family has had a direct input in the policy we call mass incarceration.
Though on crime is so 1990s
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)and her face looks worried...really. I think she's worried she won't be the Princess again, after all.
GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)Also, Sanders details the incarceration thing by talking about how marijuana is a Schedule 1 drug at the federal level. Schedule 1 triggers mandatory sentencing...
Either the junior Clinton doesn't understand how the drug laws and sentencing work or she is just saying whatever they tell her to say.
hoosierlib
(710 posts)Give me a break...
Couldn't hack it in the real world, so she runs home to Mom and Dad to become a hatchet women on Mommy's campaign, all the while a nice salary from the Clinton Global Initiative and $300k a year for sitting on IAC's board (she must have valuable insight about how to run a company given her multiple business degrees and years of experience in corporate America).
GeorgeGist
(25,294 posts)even though Chelsea's dad wasn't a king.
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)The apple didn't fall far from the tree.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)Really? The one who was born into wealth and is entitled says we aren't electing a king? lol
No we aren't, we're electing a damn knight to lead a revolution to burn the place to the ground!
californiabernin
(421 posts)Still, i hate to see someone who appears to be such an intelligent young person making a mockery of herself in her mom's defense. It's difficult to watch.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Chelsea is as tone-deaf and arrogant as her untrustworthy mother.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)She exhibits through her choice of partner, and 1 percent life style, that she is most definitely her parents' daughter.
nsd
(2,406 posts)How can she not realize that a big part of the opposition to her mother is a reaction against political dynasties (whether Clinton or Bush)? How can she not realize that the only reason she has a forum, the only reason people listen to her, is that she inherited the name "Clinton"?
Donkees
(31,086 posts)VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)I won't vote for someone I wouldn't willingly give my life for. I don't believe Hillary understands what sending people to die for country really means, given her foreign policy record. If we go to war again under her, I don't believe it will be a war in defense of our Constitution. If we go to war again under her, I don't believe it will be for defending our allies. And I certainly don't believe that if we go to war under her again, it won't result in either the end of the world, or the forwarding of the tired tripe about American Exceptionalism.
I raised my hand and swore an oath to protect the United States, and the Constitution. I do not believe Clinton stands for either, and as such, I can't vote for her.
Vinca
(50,170 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)But the condescension and lecturing tone Chelsea has adopted over the last few years is very unsavory.