Seems like people need to know what we mean by "revolution". Here goes.

[Bonobo]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1237464

Getting the American people to know how badly they are being screwed and to expect and demand more is what we mean when we say "revolution".

It is a revolution of consciousness. A revolution in what we demand as citizens. It is a political revolution that will come when we have a President who tells the unvarnished truths about the dismal state of economic inequality, educational inequality, racial inequality.

If you read the above OP that I linked to and STILL don't get it, I don't know what to tell you.

[Uncle Joe]

1. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, Bonobo.

[Bonobo]

2. It's my pleasure, Uncle Joe! nt

[RBInMaine]

3. No, a revolution is a real movement with tangible results, not merely a new awareness.

[Bonobo]

4. The awareness would be the catalyst. nt

[uponit7771]

15. Then do what!? Let the GOP block a game changing USSC justice?! A tangible result getting revolution

... is needed right hot damn now

[Bonobo]

16. It is ironic to hear the supposedly realistic Hillary supporters

be so oddly unrealistic in their demands.

Could it be that we are actually the realists -we who know that minds must change before that change will be realized in results- and the Hillary people, lost and afraid, need someone to tell them how the world small the world is so that they will be comforted?

[dchill]

52. We can call for a revolution, but...

the Hillary naysayers get to (re)define it. Or so the Russians would have us believe.

[Warren DeMontague]

7. Oh, but that is where you are quite wrong, friend.

You have no idea the tangible results new awareness can produce, and in relatively short order.

That's why there are so many institutions devoted to keeping people in a rote, unquestioning, barely-sentient fog, starting with organized religion.

[Fairgo]

10. Sorry, Tory

All revolutions start as big ideas. If you can't have one, please step out of the conversation

[uponit7771]

14. AMEN!!! Now that we need TANGIBLE things from this revolution it changes into a mindset and not

... something to get done.

The "revolution" is being called out

[daleanime]

18. Because everything is fine right now....

[Bonobo]

19. Do you understand where this person is coming from? I don't...

Do they think the movement is like a magic bottle or something?

[Enthusiast]

25. A new awareness is revolutionary. Nothing revolutionary ever happened without a new awareness.

People act on a new awareness creating a revolution.

A new awareness will encourage people to vote for those that have their best interests at heart rather than the interests of the billionaire class. That would indeed be revolutionary.

[Voice for Peace]

46. One tangible result at s time.. how about an

historical campaign financed by voters instead of big money? That's new.

[Orsino]

50. All real movements begin with new awareness.

This one's been simmering for a while. Time will tell.

[AgadorSparticus]

5. Agreed! What is that saying? You have to change your thinking to expect real changes?

But sometimes it can be hard to balance that with pragmatism--which, I admit, can be lined with fear. But sometimes, you just have to go for it and take that leap of faith.

[Bohunk68]

6. I have felt the rumbles in the air for the last few years, and undercurrent, a tide.

Did I mix enough metaphors? A sense of a storm a-coming. A change. Real Hope. Bernie does that for me. I have been waiting for a candidate like him for many years. He has his finger on the pulse. The time for real change has come, as a culmination of the start we made in the 60's. Yesssssssss

[Peace Patriot]

34. Gravitational wave. That's what I've been thinking.

I've felt it, too. And it's odd to have physicists detecting one just at this particular moment.

A minuscule movement through space-time that started more than a billion years ago, and finally reaches human instruments, at a point in our evolution when we have been looking for it and can understand it (or begin to). Spacetime is not static. It moves and grooves; it expands and contracts. As we do.

Are we done now with the contraction of our hopes and dreams and the sullying of our better natures--compassion, togetherness, community, love of the Earth, development of "the commons" (that which is for everyone--parks, libraries, the Postal Service, schools, roads, bridges, health care)--and are we moving on to expansion, openness and promoting our highest ideals?

Gravitational wave. Timely! (Spacey, too!)

[Peace Patriot]

40. To extend the gravitational wave metaphor...

...what is truly monumental about this detection is that it gives humanity the ability to see the universe in a totally new way, scientists said. The ability to directly detect gravitational waves — which are generated by the acceleration or deceleration of massive objects in space — has been compared to a deaf person suddenly gaining the ability to hear sound. An entirely new realm of information is now available.

http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2016/0215/No-longer-blind-Why-that-gravitational-wave-discovery-is-so-heavy

[Bohunk68]

53. I like that! Yes, is it a coinkydink?

I don't know, but that does lend an interesting thought line that fits. We do indeed, live in interesting times. A friend was by yesterday to visit and we discussed this same thought. We both feel it in the air, other friends have said the same.

[Feeling the Bern]

8. Bernie makes me want to be a better man

I give to charity, volunteer my time, support causes I believe in (WHY and Innocence Project are two of them) and when I see Bernie and listen to him, I never feel I do or did enough.

I love this man and so proud to support him!

Sanders/O'Malley 2016!

Warren for SCOTUS!!!

Let's make this country liberal again!

[Enthusiast]

22. Huge +1!

[erlewyne]

9. "American People" is a GOP codeword for the 1%.

It was coined by Newt.

[uponit7771]

11. OH, now that America directly needs this revolution RIGHT HOT DAMN NOW people want to redefine...

... it as something that can't get the next USSC nominee were they're supposed to be.

OMG

[Bonobo]

17. OMG is right.

What the hell are you even talking about?

[uponit7771]

27. You defining revolution to something non tangible so people don't have to be held responsible for it

... getting anything done.

Now we need this "revolution" to influence the GOP to allow for Obama's nomination to the USSC to go through...

But if you define it as "awareness" it doesn't have to do anything tangible...

This "Revolution", looking at the poll numbers, is looking like a temper tantrum of people who are losing power vs people rising up to take shit over and get things done

[Bonobo]

35. You CAN'T be that unaware.

You don't understand that sometimes a shift in consciousness must take place for a sea change is made? Or that the two are two interconnected parts of the whole? Thought and Action?

Please.

[uponit7771]

41. I'm aware when people are trying to get out of walking the walk. Here's Sanders chance to

... do just that, we'll see.

If his revolution tactics and leadership get the left leaning person in the USSC then he's put his money where his mouth is

[Bonobo]

42. I officially cannot take you seriously any more.

Bye.

[uponit7771]

43. Ad homs are an indicator of a weak position

[Bonobo]

44. You didn't make an argument.

You said some thoughtless little bit of fluff about walking the walk and then you said a really, reallly silly thing - you demanded that Bernie and his supporters somehow conjure a magic spell to get the SCOTUS appt. in.
That is not worthy of discussion because it is preposterous and shows you to be a not serious person.

Bye.

[uponit7771]

45. My argument is clear, "awareness" is NOT walking the walk... getting shit done is & now Sanders has

... a chance to walk the walk and get this revolution to get us to get a true lefty into the USSC.

We'll see, he does that and he wins most likely

[MrMickeysMom]

26. What do you do for a living, uponit?

The reason that I'm asking is that you may have never had a workplace environment that has undergone a crisis in external forces that has impacted in a reletively short time the internal core values of the people working there (cultural challenge, you might say).

Take for example, an industry that saw by its current leadership "the change" going on outside their environment. Then, due to forces that affect what the company does, the leadership decides that pretty much everything they do is going to "go away" unless they change. That company, if it is to survive, must have the foresight to find the new direction, realize what's changed around them, and either be ready for that change, or die as a company.

It takes a WIDE AWAKENING the starts from the top to the bottom of that workforce to survive. Just what kind of business do they want to be in?

I hope you look at this in somewhat the same light. We HAVE to wake up. It DOES start from the top, but at the same time, everyone must WAKE UP. That is revolutionary.

[uponit7771]

30. I work in IT, I've seen "revolution" almost every 8 months and ha been organic because of FOS...

... and it couldn't be stopped.

... and it shook and is still shaking the core of billion dollar companies from multiple angles... allowing people with no money to compete on a global level with those who have tons of it.

Those revolutions included everyone though... it didn't matter if the group was marginalized around the earth as long as you had a machine that could run Linux the potential to compete on a large scale with the big organizations was possible.

I don't see this revolution including everyone... and something TANGIBLE could be done

Right now the revolution is telling me that not only something tangible can't get done but the revolution isn't going to reach everyone.

[MrMickeysMom]

49. I'd term your every month IT change as, "evolutionary"...

... not "revolutionary". That is, it evolves from one set of core values into processes to shake up the way those core values are either realized... OR NOT.

Revolutionary ideas are the CORE VALUES THEMSELVES changing. I know this term is over-used, but, it is actually an awakening in the form of a paradigm shift. That is also an evolving process, which is why you can't just throw a dart at it and declare instant change.

[Fast Walker 52]

12. all I know is, pretty soon something has to give... because the shit is just too fucking thick

the media and political elites are just too out of touch and corrupt.

Thank god for Bernie.

[LiberalLovinLug]

13. I'm not saying Obama did not get any good things done, because he did

But this revolution was simmering and seething during Dubya's reign of deadly baffoonery. And Obama could have grabbed that ring himself. I think Hillary, Bill, Obama, the DLC and a lot of others in both parties have been conveniently blinded and/or caught up in the Washington bubble so deep they start believing their ultimate goal is to safeguard the Bubble, at all cost! The Bubble must never be popped or the country goes to hell. This includes everything in the Bubble including lobbyists, and bankers, and generals.

And there is Bernie running around, looking like a mad man with his wild hair, holding a giant pin.

[Enthusiast]

20. Kicked and recommended!

[WiffenPoof]

21. I Would Only Add...

... That this revolution is aimed at returning the Democratic Party to its original roots. As a party, we have become lost, forgetting the essence of what made us the "Party of the People."

[Bonobo]

23. And I thank you for adding that very important fact! nt

[fun n serious]

24. The BIG dream can only work if...

we commit to flipping congress and the house. Mass people coming out in droves and voting republicans out. I have been around a long time. From what I have seen people do not get as excited in their local elections leaving a lot of the ballot blank.

[BainsBane]

28. When do we start to hear those truths?

After inauguration?

Is this just about what the president says? Or is it supposed to have an effect on congress? I'd Like to know how this revolution is meant to make GOP congress people stop worrying about the conservative base that elects them? You can have 5 million people on the mall, but those congress people are elected in their home districts.

[Bonobo]

32. Health Care is a RIGHT is one of those truths. nt

[TBF]

29. Health care is certainly a hot topic -

I was surprised to find that when I attended a Bernie meet up over the weekend. Folks of all ages, union members, college kids, you name it - and they were talking about universal health care. The younger ones - the college kiddos - were quick to point out that they were interested in socialism (and they get the nuances - specifically said "democratic socialism" is different - so they are understanding that). I expected more talk about minimum wage, jobs, etc because I am always more focused on economic inequality but that wasn't the case at all.

[NurseJackie]

31. If you have to explain it, you're doing it wrong.

If you have to convince people they "need" what you're selling ... they likely don't.

[Bonobo]

33. You don't think people need health care? You don't think

the country needs to correct the unacceptable income inequality? You don't think we need to stop throwing money away needlessly on wars (as if they are something that is unavoidable, a cost that MUST be borne as a matter of course)?

No, sorry. You're wrong. It takes a leader to help people realize when that have been fleeced (which they already know) but that they can DO something about it (which they have given up on).

[yourpaljoey]

36. This is the revolution people have been waiting for

It's quite real. This is why I joined DU.
Bernie People have a common vision, a powerful vision.
He is willing to lead; we are willing and able to work with him,
every step of the way.

[Bonobo]

38. We are so happy to welcome you here. Welcome to DU!!!

Joey!

[SammyWinstonJack]

39. Bernie People. I love that!

[SammyWinstonJack]

37. KnR

[redstateblues]

47. It's a great bumper sticker slogan. There is no plan. Just words.

[Bonobo]

48. "Health Care is a Right!" must indeed start with words. nt

[bowens43]

51. they know,desperation moves hill supporters to spread distortions and lies...