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RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 12:59 AM Feb 2016

Ask the Sanders people for SUBSTANCE and to back their rhetoric, and they give DIVERSION.

Ask for Sanders' folks to put their revolution into real action with the SCOTUS appointment and the election day as a national holiday bill, and they DIVERT. No substance AT ALL. No substance on how this revolution is actually going to form in any real way and make real things happens, even when they have a classic chance to do so and show us right now.

Ask them to explain how all these big promises are actually going to get accomplished, and they give us " the revolution will do it."

Ask them to explain how they are going to deal with the ONSLAUGHT of Republican attacks if Bernie gets the nomination, and we get "the revolution will take care of it".

Round and round the mulberry bush, chasing their tails, and diverting to beat the band. That's their game.

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Ask the Sanders people for SUBSTANCE and to back their rhetoric, and they give DIVERSION. (Original Post) RBInMaine Feb 2016 OP
I call that the Hillary Defense bravenak Feb 2016 #1
Aptly named. Hillary Clinton would prefer not to discuss issues and record. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #5
It's a diversionary tactic aimed to show Hillary cannot do it either bravenak Feb 2016 #8
I like my definition better. ;-) JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #15
Lol bravenak Feb 2016 #16
Projection, not surprising since you back a candidate who's known for her dishonesty. JRLeft Feb 2016 #2
This from the "Republicans will say mean stuff!" guy AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #3
And when all else fails, "But, but but HILLARY!" nt Empowerer Feb 2016 #4
I love the smell of flop sweat in the evening Fumesucker Feb 2016 #6
The revolution, such as it is, went over your head and you didn't even see its shadow. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #7
Doesn't really matter what we say..... daleanime Feb 2016 #9
Just FYI: You were alerted. Rocky the Leprechaun Feb 2016 #10
I see a lot of negative posts against Hillary Clinton, but they always deflect when ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #11
Yep...focus on what you know...how wonderful HRC will be in office. Please, take a moment. libdem4life Feb 2016 #12
SNEERING: "Where's your 'Revolution'?" = I GOT MINE, don't need no stinkin Revolution 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #13
Seriously there is a real leadership opportunity here. kstewart33 Feb 2016 #14
Seriously 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #17
Bernie can only succeed if WE are behind him...not just on election day angstlessk Feb 2016 #26
I agree, it would be empirical proof of what the "revolution" can do to affect the entrenched uponit7771 Feb 2016 #45
I tried to dialog in the Sith Lord thread you posted Paulie Feb 2016 #18
Who are you to make demands? Get off YOUR ass and do something. If you listened to Bernie think Feb 2016 #19
Don't forget Bobbie Jo Feb 2016 #20
Lol. leftupnorth Feb 2016 #21
I've asked them repeatedly to provide details of this so-called revolution. Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 #22
Perhaps Glamrock Feb 2016 #34
You're right, Bernie should select a judge a year before he's elected! Lordquinton Feb 2016 #36
Funny I've posted my opinion of the People's Revolution. rhett o rick Feb 2016 #38
The list above is very specific. Maybe you want more basic goals for the Revolution. rhett o rick Feb 2016 #40
I should have let Sen Sanders explain. rhett o rick Feb 2016 #42
You've got money! uponit7771 Feb 2016 #44
And somehow, magically, Hillary will charm the republicans who despise her, Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #23
HOW many threads have you posted in the last hour saying the same exact thing? jillan Feb 2016 #24
What's sad here is that we support a revolution to do something about the 16,000,000 children rhett o rick Feb 2016 #25
How about Hillary releasing her speech transcripts rather than diverting nt Jarqui Feb 2016 #27
Surprise us all and switch subjects. saltpoint Feb 2016 #28
Ignore the trolls RB. Dawson Leery Feb 2016 #29
Hillary might regain the front-runner status Lordquinton Feb 2016 #37
Your post is ironic. nm rhett o rick Feb 2016 #47
Project much? Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #30
Nice projection jfern Feb 2016 #31
LOL. I will challenge you to discuss any issue. So far when I ask, the Clinton supporters rhett o rick Feb 2016 #32
You are part of the problem lastone Feb 2016 #33
REVOLUTION! beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #35
AND they do it with CAPS LOCK! It's WONDERFUL! nt Hekate Feb 2016 #39
Bernie is running for Pres. Obama is Pres. Biden VP and Harry Reid Ranking Democratic Leader Skwmom Feb 2016 #41
++++++++++++++++++DING DING DING!!! AND THE WINNER OF GD:P TODAY IS+++++++ uponit7771 Feb 2016 #43
Truth. nt LexVegas Feb 2016 #46

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
5. Aptly named. Hillary Clinton would prefer not to discuss issues and record.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 01:02 AM
Feb 2016

Her record shows she has been on both sides of many of the issues. So she chooses to divert.

And her ideas are rather weak.

Very clever name!

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
8. It's a diversionary tactic aimed to show Hillary cannot do it either
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 01:04 AM
Feb 2016

But she never said she could. So it's moot.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
7. The revolution, such as it is, went over your head and you didn't even see its shadow.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 01:03 AM
Feb 2016

The revolution will come at the ballot box and no amount of stomping your feet or attempts at shaming will stop it.

Best you can do is get out of the way, grab a chair, and watch it pass by.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
9. Doesn't really matter what we say.....
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 01:04 AM
Feb 2016

you only seem capable of hearing what you want to, but have a lovely night anyways.

ProudToBeLiberal

(3,964 posts)
11. I see a lot of negative posts against Hillary Clinton, but they always deflect when
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 01:05 AM
Feb 2016

the scrutiny is on Bernie.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
13. SNEERING: "Where's your 'Revolution'?" = I GOT MINE, don't need no stinkin Revolution
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 01:05 AM
Feb 2016

The rest of you can just fuck-off and die, with shit-wages and no affordable healthcare.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
14. Seriously there is a real leadership opportunity here.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 01:06 AM
Feb 2016

All criticism about the Revolution aside, if Bernie could effectively lead on this issue, it would score him some real leadership points, which honestly, he needs. So far all talk and a list of freebies as promises but no actual plan for doing it except the Revolution.

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
26. Bernie can only succeed if WE are behind him...not just on election day
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 01:20 AM
Feb 2016

but on every issue we hold dear! From here on out...I mean 8 years!

Paulie

(8,462 posts)
18. I tried to dialog in the Sith Lord thread you posted
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 01:10 AM
Feb 2016

A real issue since you posted about it. But then I guess "these aren't the answers your looking for." I found my answers in 2008 DU posts though.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
19. Who are you to make demands? Get off YOUR ass and do something. If you listened to Bernie
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 01:10 AM
Feb 2016

you might understand that....

Bobbie Jo

(14,341 posts)
20. Don't forget
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 01:11 AM
Feb 2016

the snarky graphics!!

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IOW... I got nothin'

eta: just looked downthread, who could have predicted?

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
22. I've asked them repeatedly to provide details of this so-called revolution.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 01:12 AM
Feb 2016

It never happens.

The SCOTUS situation is a golden opportunity to bring the revolution to the table.

Let's see what this revolution is all about and let's see if they can help us get a liberal Surpeme Court.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
36. You're right, Bernie should select a judge a year before he's elected!
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 03:09 AM
Feb 2016

I think you're forgetting that there is a sitting president, rather disrespectful of you.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
38. Funny I've posted my opinion of the People's Revolution.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 02:30 PM
Feb 2016

First of all, the Revolution or People's Movement is happening across the world. In Bulgaria people were in the streets protesting the damage that fracking was doing to their environment while SoS Clinton and Chevron were putting pressure on the Bulgarian government to continue fracking. This is an example. In South America the people managed to kick Neslies out because Neslies had taken control of all the drinking water and were ripping off The People for drinking water.

Here in the USofA we have Citizens United that Clinton is embracing and using to raise money to gain the WH. The People are against CU. We want to get Big Money out of politics much to the chagrin of Goldman-Sachs and Clinton.

Here is a partial listing of what we are fighting the Oligarchy over:

We want to Strengthening Social Security (e.g., raising the cap)
We are Opposed to job killing "Free Trade" agreements
We are opposed to fracking for oil company profits over people's water
We want to help college students afford college (telling them to get a job doesn't cut it)
We support making major corps pay their fair share of taxes
We want to end the unregulated domestic spying
Also end drone killing of terrorist "suspects" in foreign lands (100 innocents killed for each suspect)
We are for reducing the defense budget
We are for taking a hard stand against torture and indefinite detention.
We support the end of the militarization of our local police forces.
We want to end Prisons for Profits
We support legalizing marijuana esp. for medical use.
We believe in the need for funding rebuilding our neglected infrastructure.
We support single payer health insurance.
We want to see the regulation of Wall Street (e.g. reinstate Glass-Steagall)
We want to break up the big bank and media monopolies.

I don't speak for The People. The above is my opinion. From the fact that you continually disparage The People's Movement I assume you want to continue the status quo. Goldman-Sachs doesn't care about those living in poverty.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
40. The list above is very specific. Maybe you want more basic goals for the Revolution.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 02:59 PM
Feb 2016

End Big Money in politics. As long as Goldman-Sachs can buy candidates, all else is lost.

Stop the Wealthy 1% from stealing all the resources from the 99%. This is another one that we can't allow to continue.

Get the NSA/CIA Black State under control.

End the continuous wars for profits.

Again, what do you find so terrible about the People's Movement?

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
23. And somehow, magically, Hillary will charm the republicans who despise her,
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 01:12 AM
Feb 2016

How is Hillary going to deal with the ONSLAUGHT of Republican attacks.

Round and round, indeed.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
25. What's sad here is that we support a revolution to do something about the 16,000,000 children
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 01:16 AM
Feb 2016

living in poverty and you scoff because you don't like People's revolutions. You like Goldman-Sachs and the wealthy. I would dare say that you are not a real Democrat to worship at the alter of wealth.

The revolution is a People's movement around the world to over-throw the Oligarchs that you seem to worship.

While thousands, tens of thousands wait in the snow to see Sen Sanders, Clinton is having tea and crumpets with Mr. Goldman-Sachs as he slips a half million dollars into her wallet.

There are two sides to this class war and Democrats side with the 99% and Sen Sanders. The other side is the Wealthy 1% and their bought and paid for politicians (DINO's) and worshiping followers.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
28. Surprise us all and switch subjects.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 01:21 AM
Feb 2016

Do a post on famous food icons.

Please include Mrs. Paul. Can that woman pull seafood out of an ocean or what?

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
37. Hillary might regain the front-runner status
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 03:10 AM
Feb 2016

if she has a significant enough victory, keep up the positive thoughts!

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
32. LOL. I will challenge you to discuss any issue. So far when I ask, the Clinton supporters
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 01:24 AM
Feb 2016

run and hide. Can't blame them, they don't even know what her positions are. Fracking? TPP? College tuition? Prisons For Profits?

 

lastone

(588 posts)
33. You are part of the problem
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 01:28 AM
Feb 2016

you think the same bullhsit that's been shoveled down our throats for 50 years is real, wake up and smell the graft my simpleton friend, only when there is a true transformational leader will anything get done. Bernie Sanders is this candidate, no smoke and mirrors my simpleton friend, here's how:
https://berniesanders.com/issues/how-bernie-pays-for-his-proposals/

uponit7771

(90,302 posts)
43. ++++++++++++++++++DING DING DING!!! AND THE WINNER OF GD:P TODAY IS+++++++
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 03:02 PM
Feb 2016

This post,

Responses to the OP will be mostly ad homs by Sanders camp no doubt

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