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Obama should nominate Joe Biden, an ex-Senator - one of their "club" (Original Post) Arazi Feb 2016 OP
Great idea awake Feb 2016 #1
The nominee should be young jfern Feb 2016 #2
Thinking strategically we need to fill this seat under Obama Arazi Feb 2016 #4
I want a real academic LIBERAL. roguevalley Feb 2016 #22
Never would get confirmed exboyfil Feb 2016 #6
Joe would enjoy it. I think he should. TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #3
Plagiarize a Fordham Law Review article Depaysement Feb 2016 #5
His defense was a misinterpretation of the rules for citing sources Arazi Feb 2016 #7
Even so Depaysement Feb 2016 #11
I actually think his age works for confirmation Arazi Feb 2016 #12
Not for me it doesn't. Healthy younger and liberal. bettyellen Feb 2016 #13
In my dream world I agree Arazi Feb 2016 #15
I'd appoint the first Asian American Depaysement Feb 2016 #14
Dream candidates and ones I fully support Arazi Feb 2016 #16
Think it through--Joe lost his son last year, gave up his obvious dream for running for TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #8
O'Malley? Rosa Luxemburg Feb 2016 #9
He is too old. The age of the nominee is a very serious issue. enough Feb 2016 #10
I agree. I want a liberal someone who will be there for a long long time. shraby Feb 2016 #17
And if Biden's confirmed, Obama could nominate a woman or one of the Castro brothers as VP Jim Lane Feb 2016 #18
It's a gamble but one I think may be the best option at the moment Arazi Feb 2016 #19
The contrary gamble is to play for the 2016 Presidential vote Jim Lane Feb 2016 #20
Hmm, plausible but the "mood" on both sides is contrarian Arazi Feb 2016 #21
Right, I was assuming such a nominee would be blocked. Jim Lane Feb 2016 #23
I just don't think there's enough who'd care frankly Arazi Feb 2016 #24

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
4. Thinking strategically we need to fill this seat under Obama
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:06 PM
Feb 2016

i can let the age thing go when considering getting a nominee through this Senate

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
6. Never would get confirmed
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:09 PM
Feb 2016

This might be the best option or roll the dice for the next election

If his first nominee is bounced it would be interesting lets say 3 months or so before the election to put himself up for the nomination.

Getting 60 votes for cloture is almost impossible in this environment. I am not even sure he could find 50 votes. Precedence does exist for bouncing lame duck nominations.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
7. His defense was a misinterpretation of the rules for citing sources
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:12 PM
Feb 2016

It was a first year law school course iirc and didn't sink his Senate campaign when it came out since even the law school agreed with Biden

But yeah, that's a black mark no doubt but I'm not so sure it's a deal breaker. Hard to say. He has successfully fended off this incident a few times

Depaysement

(1,835 posts)
11. Even so
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:25 PM
Feb 2016

He's 73. Someone 63 probably gives you an extra 10 years with a progressive Justice.

Not happening.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
12. I actually think his age works for confirmation
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:30 PM
Feb 2016

the republicans are going to be rabidly opposed to anyone young (yeah, they're going to be rabid about anyone but still)

Biden assures them it's a "shorter term". A gamble for sure

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
15. In my dream world I agree
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:38 PM
Feb 2016

in this congressional reality, I say theres going to be a lot of compromising to get anyone nominated.

My first priority is that seat is filled with a liberal Dem

Depaysement

(1,835 posts)
14. I'd appoint the first Asian American
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:37 PM
Feb 2016

Denny Chin or Jackie Nyguen.

Both qualified Dems. Watch the Repukes squirm.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
16. Dream candidates and ones I fully support
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:39 PM
Feb 2016

would love that but I think it's going to take a lot of compromising to get any nominee through

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
8. Think it through--Joe lost his son last year, gave up his obvious dream for running for
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:14 PM
Feb 2016

President--I don't think they'll put him through the wringer or deny him. He has a lot of goodwill in the Senate even among Repubs.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
18. And if Biden's confirmed, Obama could nominate a woman or one of the Castro brothers as VP
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:55 PM
Feb 2016

My first reaction was the age thing, but I see your point. If a Republican wins the Presidency, Biden hangs on as long as he can. He seems pretty healthy and might make it to the next Democratic administration. If a Democrat wins, Biden serves on SCOTUS for a while, then bows out gracefully while the new Democratic President has plenty of time to pick his successor, and no one can plausibly raise the "lame duck" argument.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
19. It's a gamble but one I think may be the best option at the moment
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:16 PM
Feb 2016

And raising the profile of a young superstar Dem like Castro or Harris or squee! Barbara Lee (pick one any one, I like them all!) would be a godsend

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
20. The contrary gamble is to play for the 2016 Presidential vote
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:36 PM
Feb 2016

In this scenario, Obama nominates a young, healthy, sitting judge -- the kind of person who would have been confirmed without incident a few decades ago. If the GOP blocks the nomination, then the Democratic nominee for President can use that as a GOTV motivator.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
21. Hmm, plausible but the "mood" on both sides is contrarian
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:42 PM
Feb 2016

I'm not sure ANY young candidate would be seen as UN-controversial right now. History is being re-written that Republicans "caved" on too many things. The myths are being calcified as "truths" on the right - a young, easy-to-be confirmed Justice would be spun as a myth.

And honestly, I'd say the same thing on the Dem side. We're all re-writing history, getting calcified in our dogma

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
23. Right, I was assuming such a nominee would be blocked.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:37 PM
Feb 2016

The idea would be that, instead of giving the Republicans a compromise in the form of a fairly old candidate who'd probably serve only a few years, Obama would nominate exactly the person he really wants. The Republicans would vote the nomination down or more likely refuse to even bring it to a vote. Then Clinton or Sanders or whoever is the Democratic nominee would point to that obstructionism as further evidence of GOP bad faith. Some swing voters might be persuaded to vote Democratic as a result of the SCOTUS nomination fight.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
24. I just don't think there's enough who'd care frankly
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:42 PM
Feb 2016

Obstructionism has worked well for the Republicans. Their base eats it up

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