2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumObama should nominate Joe Biden, an ex-Senator - one of their "club"
who they'd have a very difficult time blocking imo
I really like and respect him and I believe his former fellow colleagues do as well
awake
(3,226 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)Arazi
(6,829 posts)i can let the age thing go when considering getting a nominee through this Senate
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)exboyfil
(17,862 posts)This might be the best option or roll the dice for the next election
If his first nominee is bounced it would be interesting lets say 3 months or so before the election to put himself up for the nomination.
Getting 60 votes for cloture is almost impossible in this environment. I am not even sure he could find 50 votes. Precedence does exist for bouncing lame duck nominations.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)Depaysement
(1,835 posts)Probably not getting it.
Arazi
(6,829 posts)It was a first year law school course iirc and didn't sink his Senate campaign when it came out since even the law school agreed with Biden
But yeah, that's a black mark no doubt but I'm not so sure it's a deal breaker. Hard to say. He has successfully fended off this incident a few times
He's 73. Someone 63 probably gives you an extra 10 years with a progressive Justice.
Not happening.
Arazi
(6,829 posts)the republicans are going to be rabidly opposed to anyone young (yeah, they're going to be rabid about anyone but still)
Biden assures them it's a "shorter term". A gamble for sure
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Arazi
(6,829 posts)in this congressional reality, I say theres going to be a lot of compromising to get anyone nominated.
My first priority is that seat is filled with a liberal Dem
Depaysement
(1,835 posts)Denny Chin or Jackie Nyguen.
Both qualified Dems. Watch the Repukes squirm.
Arazi
(6,829 posts)would love that but I think it's going to take a lot of compromising to get any nominee through
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)President--I don't think they'll put him through the wringer or deny him. He has a lot of goodwill in the Senate even among Repubs.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)enough
(13,256 posts)The Supreme Court ain't beanbag.
shraby
(21,946 posts)Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)My first reaction was the age thing, but I see your point. If a Republican wins the Presidency, Biden hangs on as long as he can. He seems pretty healthy and might make it to the next Democratic administration. If a Democrat wins, Biden serves on SCOTUS for a while, then bows out gracefully while the new Democratic President has plenty of time to pick his successor, and no one can plausibly raise the "lame duck" argument.
Arazi
(6,829 posts)And raising the profile of a young superstar Dem like Castro or Harris or squee! Barbara Lee (pick one any one, I like them all!) would be a godsend
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)In this scenario, Obama nominates a young, healthy, sitting judge -- the kind of person who would have been confirmed without incident a few decades ago. If the GOP blocks the nomination, then the Democratic nominee for President can use that as a GOTV motivator.
Arazi
(6,829 posts)I'm not sure ANY young candidate would be seen as UN-controversial right now. History is being re-written that Republicans "caved" on too many things. The myths are being calcified as "truths" on the right - a young, easy-to-be confirmed Justice would be spun as a myth.
And honestly, I'd say the same thing on the Dem side. We're all re-writing history, getting calcified in our dogma
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)The idea would be that, instead of giving the Republicans a compromise in the form of a fairly old candidate who'd probably serve only a few years, Obama would nominate exactly the person he really wants. The Republicans would vote the nomination down or more likely refuse to even bring it to a vote. Then Clinton or Sanders or whoever is the Democratic nominee would point to that obstructionism as further evidence of GOP bad faith. Some swing voters might be persuaded to vote Democratic as a result of the SCOTUS nomination fight.
Arazi
(6,829 posts)Obstructionism has worked well for the Republicans. Their base eats it up