2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumA mile wide and an inch deep.
We're now seeing, quite starkly, what many of us here have been saying for years. Hillary's support is broad and weak. And why it's weak isn't readily decipherable or ultimately, very important; because it can't be fixed.
Establishment democrats and her core supporters have been completely blundered to this, citing her high (now sinking) favorables from democratic voters and her most admired woman status, ignoring that she has not done well among independents and that no more than 13% surveyed, voted for her as most admired.
It's nuts. We've said for years that Hillary is not a good general election candidate, pointing to such things as her lackluster campaigning, that she'll drive republicans and some indy voters to the polls in droves, that her history though widely known known is a big factor and still easy for republicans to exploit. I could go on. And on.
If you a Hillary supporter, you may be thinking that Bernie's flaws as a general election candidate are greater. Maybe yes, maybe no, though personally, I think his shot is slightly better than here. But the real point is how fucking blind democratic establishment elites, including many in the MSM, have been and how out of touch they are. It also illustrates how much of a hold the Clintons have on the Democratic Party.
This was always going to be a tough year for us. What did the party powers do? They helped Clinton clear the field.
You can see the establishment fear and panic grow day by day. It's not just fear of Bernie losing. That is a minor fear. They're afraid he really is starting a political revolution. It threatens to undermine their power and the status quo.
All this brought to you by the myopic, live in the past, democratic establishment.
Metric System
(6,048 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)You are blindered to it.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)...was based in large part by threats from DNC and Camp Weathervane, who feared another woman being 'first', in addition to viewing Warren as a threat to their Wall St masters. Bernie was allowed in only because they badly miscalculated the strength of his message and anger of voters.
bigtree
(85,986 posts)...he's getting some mileage out of that.
However, disparaging Hillary's support is an amazing bit of 'myopia' on your part. Her support includes progressives every bit as committed and determined as Bernie and his following. That appears to be your blind side.
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)I just listened to this:
And throughout it I heard the same message I hear from Bernie. I also heard him warning the country of the very things Hillary embraces. Listen to it.