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"Desperate Hillary attacks Obama as Polls Sink" DEJA VU (Original Post) berniepdx420 Feb 2016 OP
Remember this common theme of repeating dreadful mistakes oh08dem Feb 2016 #1
She is not attacking Obama. 6chars Feb 2016 #2
this is from 2008 ... berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #3
Hard working white people disagree Fumesucker Feb 2016 #4
ok I will bite... hard working WHITE people disagree with what exactly ?? berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #19
Thank you for being fair. That is why the President appointed her SOS still_one Feb 2016 #27
The post I was replying to said that Hillary is not attacking Obama Fumesucker Feb 2016 #35
2008? sheshe2 Feb 2016 #5
You are the one looking desperate sending aroound a 2008 video riversedge Feb 2016 #6
sometimes reminders are good aren't they? azurnoir Feb 2016 #7
Here is a reminder. Hillary is ahead in delegates and will remain so. leftofcool Feb 2016 #11
yes DSW says the reason for superdelegates is to stop grass roots candidates azurnoir Feb 2016 #12
Fascists Got it Feb 2016 #14
No - not without the superdelegates which do not count at this point. jillan Feb 2016 #29
Why do you hate Democracy so ?? Super Delegates ?? Really ?? berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #30
Not as desperate as a photo from 1962 tecelote Feb 2016 #8
Hillary must have PTSD from 2008. AZ Progressive Feb 2016 #9
Really... that was the last time she was running for Prez..very relevant berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #20
Right. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #26
Bernie isn't Obama pengu Feb 2016 #10
lol... and she's thinks she can count on POC as her firewall... and her supporters on here berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #21
2.12.16-Nevada poll/graph; HuffPo trashing HRC BIG time! Divernan Feb 2016 #13
+420 berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #22
Everything old is new again! nt nc4bo Feb 2016 #15
Why is she always called "desperate" Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #16
Because of how she attacks her opponents. jeff47 Feb 2016 #17
So... Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #18
Wall Street and Warmonger are. jeff47 Feb 2016 #36
The thing is ... she is now desperate... berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #23
And you know this how? nt. Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #24
uh... 40 point lead in Iowa to unofficial win by 0.2%..... 21% loss in New Hampshire berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #25
Oh, so you don't actually know it. nt. Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #31
oh my... head in sand much ?? berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #32
No, Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #33
oh come on.. it's a only a word... in my opinion and the opinion of the article I quoted berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #34
. UglyGreed Feb 2016 #28

oh08dem

(339 posts)
1. Remember this common theme of repeating dreadful mistakes
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:43 AM
Feb 2016

if she becomes president and there's a situation in a place like, oh let's say Iran.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
35. The post I was replying to said that Hillary is not attacking Obama
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:28 PM
Feb 2016

I was being ironic, using a phrase "hard working white people" that Hillary used while attacking Obama to point out that she was in fact attacking Obama.

Saying things that have been said a brazillion times the same way over and over is stultifying and I like to break up my commentary with a little snark or irony.



azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
12. yes DSW says the reason for superdelegates is to stop grass roots candidates
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:53 AM
Feb 2016

you do realize that means circumventing the actual rank and file right? How'll that translate in the GE?

jillan

(39,451 posts)
29. No - not without the superdelegates which do not count at this point.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:40 PM
Feb 2016

Someone in the Hillary group posted that earlier, you may want to check in your group.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
9. Hillary must have PTSD from 2008.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 06:10 AM
Feb 2016

Her Campaign staff sure does:

"I still have 2008 PTSD, and I’m feeling a lot of it right now," said one Iowa Clinton loyalist who has been involved in both campaigns. "These polls have closed up. His fervent support is not something she’s matching… Things seem to be a little off the rails."
- http://mashable.com/2016/01/14/clinton-iowa-ghosts-2008/

berniepdx420

(1,784 posts)
20. Really... that was the last time she was running for Prez..very relevant
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:24 PM
Feb 2016

if you ask me... probably more telling that you would dismiss it out of hand don't ya think.. Relevant extra because she is now counting on the same voting block POC that she was marginalizing and criticizing just 7 years ago... reminder ..the last time she ran for Prez.... wait wait what's that sound ... is it a 3am phone call..... she's toast

berniepdx420

(1,784 posts)
21. lol... and she's thinks she can count on POC as her firewall... and her supporters on here
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:25 PM
Feb 2016

don't think we will remind them about her race baiting in 2008 race... lmfao

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
13. 2.12.16-Nevada poll/graph; HuffPo trashing HRC BIG time!
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:08 AM
Feb 2016

Hillary's dropping, Bernie's rising and the 2 have met at 45% each as of Feb. 12th! Who's got the
momentum? Bernie, as per usual!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280117500

PLUS! Checking out article headlines on Huffington Post's "Breaking News & Opinions" page:

The Movement Has Found Its Leader: Bernie Sanders

Here Comes Another Superdelegate Crisis



The bigger problem for Clinton is simply the fact that this isn't how this primary was supposed to go! And yet, after two contests Clinton's team is revealing a deep concern for the road ahead. Nevertheless, pointing to the way those party elites who enjoy voting privileges favor her over Sanders is not a move her campaign advisers should even be countenancing at this point. The basic argument of her candidacy is that the institutions that govern our lives do not need to be torn down, root and branch. For this reason, she shouldn't be telling voters that the system isn't really rigged against them while simultaneously telling her donors, "Don't worry, the Democratic primary is rigged in my favor." But for whatever reason, that's where we are right now.


Hillary Clinton's Disastrous Foreign Policy Record

Hillary Clinton is the Ultimate "NO" Woman

Hillary Clinton Sugarcoating Her Disastrous Record

Madeleine Albright Apologizes For Implying Female Bernie Sanders Supporters Will Go To Hell

The Tragedy of Hillary Clinton (and Her Generation)

The Clintons are insiders now, their personal wealth of over $50 million derived nearly entirely from the wealthy and powerful. And it shows
. Hillary's gradualism in health care carefully protects health-related industries. Her proposals for financial regulation do not include putting executives in jail, or confiscating the wealth they obtained by theft.


Americans Are Sick of The Tough On Crime Era

Hillary’s Stance On Immigration Could Become A Vulnerability

In conclusion, gentle readers, Hillary's got a lot of splainin', i.e. evolvin' to do!

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
16. Why is she always called "desperate"
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:18 AM
Feb 2016

when she attacks her opponents?

Bernie's campaign rests on a series of attacks on Hillary and yet nobody calls him desperate.

Politicians who run against each other attack each other. It's the nature of the game.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
17. Because of how she attacks her opponents.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:37 PM
Feb 2016

Battle away on policy. That's what campaigns are for.

Clinton doesn't just stick to policy. That is what makes her appear desperate. Usually, when politicians leave policy in their attacks - Obama might be from Kenya, this Sanders photo isn't Sanders, etc. - that indicates desperation.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
18. So...
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:36 PM
Feb 2016

"Hillary is a liar," "Hillary is a shill for Wall Street," "Hillary is a warmonger" are all POLICY differences.

Sorry, but not. Bernie himself seldom says all of that outright, but his campaign and his followers sure do, and he benefits from that.

On policy details he cannot compete with Hillary. His entire campaign seems to rest on lofty ideals (with insufficient details), and constant twisting and smearing of Hillary and her record.

But if she fights back she is "desperate."

Got it.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
36. Wall Street and Warmonger are.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 02:34 AM
Feb 2016

She has supported many policies that boost Wall Street.

On Warmonger, she voted for the Iraq war, was the major proponent of intervention in Libya, and has called for a no-fly-zone and ground troops in Syria.

Those are all policy. Whether or not you put nice phrasing on it.

"Liar" is fuzzier. "Has told a lot of lies" is her documented history - sniper fire, kicking off the birther movement, etc. "Liar" would make it an attribute of her instead of what she has done.

On policy details he cannot compete with Hillary.

Ok, give me the utterly critical detail of how Clinton will expand the ACA, when any expansion requires Congress. 'Cause she doesn't.

Or how about, what are the policy details of her social justice platform? You know, the one she was supposed to announce months ago.

berniepdx420

(1,784 posts)
25. uh... 40 point lead in Iowa to unofficial win by 0.2%..... 21% loss in New Hampshire
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:36 PM
Feb 2016

30 - 40 point lead in Nevada.. now tied.. plus she never gains in the Polls..never.... so I am pretty sure there's some desperation inside her inner circle

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
33. No,
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:01 PM
Feb 2016

just not inclined to assign emotions to candidates based on my subjective opinion.

I'm sure the Hillary campaign is somewhat concerned going forward, but they've know for quite some time that Iowa would be tight and NH a loss. They know that the states that are still to vote, are looking better for Hillary.

So I don't see any reasons to assign a pathetic little adjective like "desperate" to her or her campaign. That is just something Bernie supporters do in yet another sad attempt to show their contempt for Hillary Clinton.

berniepdx420

(1,784 posts)
34. oh come on.. it's a only a word... in my opinion and the opinion of the article I quoted
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:04 PM
Feb 2016

in the OP.. we think that desperation is creeping in to the campaign... don't read too much into it..but you are certainly as entitled to your opinion as we are to ours
May the only Progressive in the race win... feelin the Bern

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