2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDNC rolls back Obama ban on contributions from federal lobbyists -
The decision was viewed with disappointment Friday morning by good government activists who saw it as a step backward in the effort to limit special interest influence in Washington. Some suggested it could provide an advantage to Hillary Clintons fundraising efforts.
It is a major step in the wrong direction, said longtime reform advocate Fred Wertheimer. And it is completely out of touch with the clear public rejection of the role of political money in Washington, expressed during the 2016 campaign.
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More . . . https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/dnc-allowing-donations-from-federal-lobbyists-and-pacs/2016/02/12/22b1c38c-d196-11e5-88cd-753e80cd29ad_story.html?wpisrc=al_alert-COMBO-politics%252Bnation
So . . . we now have even MORE money in politics. Good job DNC. Do you think Hillary will tell the DNC to cut it out - and honor President Obama's changes? *sarcasm*
global1
(26,004 posts)this is just outrageous.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)Especially since it appears that they changed the rules just for her.
So much for her wanting to get corporate money out of politics.
TheBlackAdder
(29,149 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)global1
(26,004 posts)Don't they realize how incensed the American People are about typical business as usual things like this. They are actually helping Bernie make his case. They are adding fuel to this fire and showing just how corrupt and rigged this system is. Moves like this are just "Fueling the Bern!!!!!"
Go Bernie!!!!
Feel The Bern!!!!
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)for who she works for.
Empowerer
(3,900 posts)All lobbyists are not evil. For example, every major civil rights organization lobbies Congress to advocate for civil rights. Because they cannot afford to hire outside lobbyist or lobbying firms, people on the staff do the lobbying and, therefore, have to register as lobbyists. As a result, none of those people can donate to the campaign. The same prohibition applied to getting jobs in the Administration - there are many good, solid people who would have been great assets to the federal agencies but they were barred from jobs because they had registered as lobbyists in the past few years. These people were not influence peddlers or big money people. They were grassroots activists who try to convince Congress to pass good laws and stop bad ones, to confirm fair, liberal judges, etc.
You know those grades that Sanders supporters like to tout - the high grades he gets from the NAACP, NARAL, etc.? Those grades are based solely on his voting record and that voting record is monitored by those organization's in-house lobbyists who not only keep an eye on how he's voting but also spend a lot of time talking to him about the bills they care about.
The blanket prohibition looks good on paper and sounds good in speeches, but in reality, it is much too broad and throws the baby out with the bathwater.
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...it IS good. Money in exchange for securing a vote, is bribery, regardless of the topic. If an organization/industry has a point to make, make it on its merits. Feel free to talk, convince, whatever. Money just makes the whole thing dirty.
Empowerer
(3,900 posts)and who organizes your community residents to oppose a bill cutting food stamps. You make $35,000 a year and want to donate $50 to Bernie, you think you shouldn't be allowed because you're a registered lobbyist?
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...any hint of impropriety is not good. If you want to give money to a candidate, you better stop lobbying.
Empowerer
(3,900 posts)Smaller organizations - the ones that fight the 1% and are already at a disadvantage - don't have the luxury of making that choice. Often, everyone there must do some lobbying - which is really just advocating to Congress on behalf of their constituents. Unlike big money places who can hire outside lobbyists, therefore keeping everyone on the inside "clean," these organizations have to do everything, including the lobbying.
Blanket rules like this actually benefit the big money companies to the disadvantage of smaller organizations. Like I said, it sounds good, but in reality, it's really unfair to them. There has to be some middle ground.
BainsBane
(55,199 posts)The rhetoric against them certainly didn't help with that.
Nanjeanne
(5,480 posts)Isn't that how it works? You don't like something Obama did and you say that - so you are bashing him?
Oh wait . . . that's only Sanders!