Hillary Won the stacked crowd noise award, Bernie won the debate, hands down

[litlbilly]

No contest tonight. Bernie hit it out of the grand canyon.

[msongs]

1. well he does have his stump speech welll memorized as that's about all he ever says lol nt

[itsrobert]

6. True

n/t

[New Earth]

17. and that is why he is doing so well and Hillary is not.

she can't keep the same story and keeps changing it to sound like her opponent, just like her last run. Every time his 'stump' speech is heard by new people, he attracts more supporters. So it's working. Not sure what there is to complain about!

[formernaderite]

46. haven't been this excited to vote in a primary since 08

Go Bernie Go!

[litlbilly]

20. That's his platform, it doesnt change. Why would it? Hellllllllooooo:)

[arcane1]

21. That's the advantage that comes with not having to remember which lie to tell n/t

[nc4bo]

28. A-dang-men! nt

[840high]

36. Bingo.

[dchill]

33. It's called staying on message.

That's a GOOD thing!

[litlbilly]

37. Again, why would he change anything? His policies are just that, they dont change, unlike Hillary,

she checks the wind direction to figure out what her policies are.

[AgingAmerican]

58. What are Hillary's positions?

Do you even know?

[Gary 50]

77. Do you mean today or yesterday?

[AgingAmerican]

78. Or last week...

[mhatrw]

62. It's called a message.

And it makes perfect sense that such a thing would be completely foreign to a Clinton supporter.

[frylock]

67. You never know what you're going to get with Hillary.

I was at a work function and missed the debate. Did she play up her new "game-changer" rebranding tonight?

[jham123]

74. Nope

Just more "Meee Tooo!" after every response Bernie gave and then she added some more slanderous snide remarks that Bernie had to correct over and over. It was funny watching her make a claim and then watching Bernie totally put her in her place with actual facts and Historical context.

[NowSam]

76. Powerful speech

and cuts right through in my opinion. Seems Hillary likes it too since she is starting to parrot it.

[TheSocialDem]

2. Agree

[valerief]

3. Stacked crowd noise award!!!! Bwahahahaha! So true.

[Fawke Em]

18. LMAO. I SAW that, too.

All the establishment crowd was up front near the mics.

The regular folks were in the back.

Guess the establishment has learned to do more than rattle their jewelry.

[litlbilly]

42. I love that reference, John Lennon was just plain cool:)

[Fawke Em]

53. I'm the daughter of Boomers. I'm the mother of a Millennial and whatever they call the babies, now.

I grew up with the Beatles. My favorite band is The Who.

I was born to want a Revolution.

[litlbilly]

23. They were screaming and whistling about nothing, so obvious to me.

[elmac]

68. If she started singing bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran

they probably would have still screamed and whistled.

[TCJ70]

4. He did well in his rebuttals to her...

...but she did change her tone which was a good thing. Right up until the end when she went after him on Obama support for cheap points. That's just wrong.

[TTUBatfan2008]

11. Especially coming from her...

I don't think she wants scrutiny on the 2008 campaign. It was UGLY on her part against Obama.

[TCJ70]

16. What really gets me...

...is the distortion. He didn't write a forward for any book. He wrote this:

Bill Press makes the case why, long after taking the oath of office, the next president of the United States must keep rallying the people who elected him or her on behalf of progressive causes. That is the only way real change will happen. Read this book.

And if any Hillary supporters want to disagree with that, should she get the White House, I'll see you in 4 years when nothing's been accomplished.

[Ed Suspicious]

32. I'll agree with this. She is much better when she is calm and quiet. Very calculated to be sure, but

it plays better and that was her goal.

[boston bean]

5. LOL

[bkkyosemite]

7. That audience was full of Hillary supporters. It was so obvious.

[dana_b]

8. I thought he did well but he was shaken

when she pulled that crap about the book. I just WISH that he would be a little bit more shark-ish. He has so much that he could get her on but he is very much a gentleman. That's just me though. I'm not so nice.

[enid602]

54. Tweety

Tweety pointed out Bernie's redness, wild hand gestures and the way he snapped his fingers constantly to get the moderators' attention, as if he was calling for the head waiter. He also commented that Bernie always has to get the last word in.

[mhatrw]

63. Yes, tweety always has the most insightful political policy commentary. nt

[Spitfire of ATJ]

69. His wife would kill him if he got a Bern up his leg.

[Warren DeMontague]

9. Yep.

"Henry kissinger!! Wooo-hooo! Thats right, woo hoo! Hooooo! You tell em, Hillary! Wooooo hooooooooo!"


"Pssst, hey, who is henry kissinger again?"

[narnian60]

72. Hahaha.

Very good.

[Bobbie Jo]

10. No he didn't.

It was a segmented stump speech.

This wasn't even close...

[EndElectoral]

12. I did enjoy his embarassing her on the Kissinger issue. Why does she support that war criminal?

[litlbilly]

19. That was an amazing exchange:)

[TCJ70]

24. And she doubled down on it...

...she seems way too eager to throw our weight around the world.

[jeff47]

27. Because they have the same worldview. (nt)

[Dragonfli]

41. They really do have the same world view and I say this without a hint of hyperbole

It has shown itself time and again, with a giant punctuation mark during her tenure as SOS.

The revelation has helped me to understand her support of the use of cluster munitions, a terrible plight on mostly children ever since they were first used.

Human life appears cheap to her, just as with Henry Kissinger.

[DJ13]

29. That was a thing of beauty!

[in_cog_ni_to]

65. Because she's a warmonger, just like he is. We'll have WWIII if she ever gets to the WH. n/t

[jham123]

75. Way way too Juicy!!

I did enjoy watching her squirm.

I mean really, Kissinger and the nation building, that has been the nasty mantra that needs to stop.

[daleanime]

13. They could risk a repeat....

of the booing.

[brooklynite]

14. Waiting to see your evidence for the "stacked crowd" allegation

I trust Senator Sanders will support your allegation?

[Fawke Em]

22. I saw them.

You could SEE the difference.

The stodgy establishment was clearly up front.

Hell, surprised you weren't invited.

[brooklynite]

31. You'll be providing this "evidence" to the Sanders campaign?

I'm sure he'd like to know.

[N92LB]

79. Common sense

It doesn't take a genius to see clinton in numerous videos struggling to even fill a room on the campaign trail let alone gather crowds like sanders and then notice how deliberately constructed her support is within the venues for every democratic debate
Why is Hillary running her campaign like a crook/republican

[litlbilly]

15. I just felt like he didnt let her get away with and of the David Brock crap tonight

[mvd]

25. Yep

It sounds like there were more Hillary supporters in the crowd. I didn't think Clinton brought much other than the same distortions against Sanders that she always uses. She needs them because really can't argue that a country as rich as ours can't move to single payer, among other issues. And the anti tax stance is a cover for not wanting to shake up the establishment. We shouldn't be sounding like Repukes on taxes. No one likes taxes, but it you benefit more from the programs, I would pay them.

[speaktruthtopower]

26. I go with the look in the eyes of the moderators...

surprised respect and awe for Bernie.

[toshiba783]

30. There really shouldn't be crowds like this in debates...

I thought the audience reaction was pretty equal - though it was so redundant with a huge applause after each candidate spoke.

[litlbilly]

35. I think they passed out party noise makers to Hillary's crowd.

[John Poet]

34. It was clear the audience was stacked for Hillary,

but I found it amusing when the crowd cheering drowned out her words.

It was something of a relief, to tell the truth.

[nolabear]

38. If they'd cheered like that for him you'd have called it a movement! Revolutionary!

This old "Unfair!" thing is being badly overused.

[Schema Thing]

39. yep

[quickesst]

40. ". Hillary Won the stacked crowd noise award,"

Shit, & I thought I was going to get to sleep early 2nite. These things don't make themselves. Oh wait, I can get to sleep early tonight.

[xloadiex]

43. Even though it was on the UWM campus

only 25 students out of 580 people were invited and got in by lottery Hmmm, I wonder why?

[litlbilly]

45. You have to ask?

[Beacool]

44. That's a matter of opinion.

He repeats the same themes like a mantra: 1%, Wall Street, income inequality, I didn't vote for the war in Iraq, etc.

Although Kissinger and the Shah of Iran were a new one.

[MrWendel]

50. A...

Noun, A verb, and Wall Street.

[Beacool]

66. Pretty much........

When asked about race relations he reverted to his income inequality spiel. A one note candidate.

[one_voice]

47. I disagree. I think it was a great debate between them.

I thought they both had good answers & some that were kinda meh.

[StevieM]

48. Jury Results

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service

On Thu Feb 11, 2016, 11:05 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Hillary Won the stacked crowd noise award, Bernie won the debate, hands down
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511207547

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Allegation, without evidence that crowd was "stacked"

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu Feb 11, 2016, 11:11 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Hillary supporter here. This is harmless posturing.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Cheap shot post with no substance.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Alerter seems to think crowd was not stacked. IMO, it was. Anyway, this is a case of an enthusiastic post that the alerter disagrees with. And so it goes.
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I'm a Hillary supporter, as I was in 2008. And I think that the claim that the crowd was stacked is silly. But I hardly think this warrants a hide.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[litlbilly]

51. Its funny they want evidence that the audience was stacked. I have ears and I run a digital studio,

I know a little bit about sound and volume. May not be absolute proof but, how could you prove it anyway? Putting an alert on my OP just shows how desperate you guys are. You would alert on anything I guess.

[litlbilly]

52. and, thanks to the jury for voting 5/2 not to hide:)

[StevieM]

57. Sorry to disappoint you, litlbilly, but I was juror #7. I voted not to hide.

In fact, there were two stated Hillary supporters on the jury who voted against hiding. If we had voted the other way it would have been 4-3 to hide.

I just can't imagine that there was any kind of conspiracy to stack the audience.

On the brighter side, it sounds like you have a really cool job.

[litlbilly]

60. And I thank you for that

[litlbilly]

61. I do, I love it:)

[Logical]

64. Wow, what a stupid alert! nt

[azmom]

49. Bernie was awesome. He has so much passion

For helping us. I love that man. Will donate again. Will have to cut back on my coffee budget, but he earned it tonight. Go Bernie.

[cantbeserious]

55. Us We Together - Vs - Me Myself And I

eom

[Peace Patriot]

56. I agree! Bernie, hands down!

And I wonder if people who think Hillary won this debate know any history. Cuz a lot of what Bernie Sanders was talking tonight was HISTORY and LEARNING FROM history!

Anybody who knows history knows that you don't have HENRY FRIGGING KISSINGER as a foreign policy adviser! Sanders was brilliant on that point. Anybody who knows history knows that Iran is the way it is today BECAUSE of U.S. "regime change" in Iran in 1953--the overthrow of a democratically elected prime minister, to serve British oil interests. We've been doing this for 50 FRIGGING YEARS (he didn't say "frigging&quot --with Kissinger in the lead during his reign of terror in Latin America, Southeast Asia and elsewhere--and nobody stops to consider the "unintended consequences" of U.S. regime change, which always been bad to very bad.

He mentioned Iraq and Libya, in recent years, and his warning about destabilization of the ME.

How can anybody say he "lost" this debate--with history and reality entirely on his side? He also pointed out that Kissinger's "opening to China" let to the out-flood of U.S. jobs and manufacturing!

Jeez. He was so ON. And so RIGHT.

I want this man as President of the United States, and NOT someone who turns to Henry Kissinger for advice!

That is "hands down" for me.

[AtomicKitten]

59. He's sick as a dog and still beat her handily.

[Beacool]

70. Sure...........

I guess that if they had been wildly cheering for Sanders you wouldn't have had a problem with that, right?

[MrWendel]

71. Democratic debate trends...

Crowd for Bernie - Fair, balanced, and well informed.

Crowd for Hillary - Bussed in, in the tank, rigged.

[Respect 88]

73. Crowd stuffing re-affirms rigged system

When will the establishment surrender to the will of the people? Democracy is not a rigged system, which is why it would work if allowed.