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I stand with John Lewis and Bernie Sanders (Original Post) Autumn Feb 2016 OP
I am a Bernie supporter and I also wholly respect and appreciate all that John Lewis has done and myrna minx Feb 2016 #1
k/r AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #2
John Lewis does not know me SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #3
Here's what matters. We know John Lewis and Autumn Feb 2016 #9
and not two gadflies looking for a step up SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #10
Two lifelong champions of Civil Rights. senz Feb 2016 #4
that and my cousin Debby who left rural Oregon near where the refuge thing is roguevalley Feb 2016 #34
Gawd that sounds exciting. :D Go Debbie!!! senz Feb 2016 #36
she blew everyone's minds. She was on a bus and went door to door to register roguevalley Feb 2016 #37
As do I. nt retrowire Feb 2016 #5
+1 lasttrip Feb 2016 #6
two warriors for the people! nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #7
Me too. Thank you for the thread. n/t Avalux Feb 2016 #8
:) polly7 Feb 2016 #11
Tommy Douglas: a great truth-teller; puts me in mind of Ron Green Feb 2016 #14
He sure does. I saw similarities the first time I read about Bernie and watched some videos. nt. polly7 Feb 2016 #15
Wonderful op. cali Feb 2016 #12
Absolutely! Punkingal Feb 2016 #13
We unite, why would Lewis want to divide? aspirant Feb 2016 #16
"Did MLK welcome all?" saidsimplesimon Feb 2016 #35
Why is Lewis relevant? randys1 Feb 2016 #51
Who is Lewis dividing? randys1 Feb 2016 #53
I never met John Lewis left-of-center2012 Feb 2016 #17
My admiration and respect for John Lewis is lifelong Dems to Win Feb 2016 #18
K&R NikolaC Feb 2016 #19
I'm surprised Lewis didn't see Bernie (or me for that matter). He is RIGHT THERE by the Reflecting FailureToCommunicate Feb 2016 #20
oh yeah, I see you! You're the one in the white shirt, right? Kip Humphrey Feb 2016 #33
Well, yes. You have good vision! It WAS hot and my father insisted we dress well. FailureToCommunicate Feb 2016 #58
K&R! pinstikfartherin Feb 2016 #21
K&R suffragette Feb 2016 #22
Wouldn't be the first time a hero stumbled. Makes 'em seem more like us, doesn't it? jtuck004 Feb 2016 #23
I am going to keep in mind what you just wrote, JimDandy Feb 2016 #39
He did not stumble. He spoke his truth. eom Raine1967 Feb 2016 #46
Likewise, but I am not allowed to say so in the Bernie group. longship Feb 2016 #24
Ditto. Nt Land Shark Feb 2016 #25
Land Shark!! How are you? Haven't seen you post in ages JimDandy Feb 2016 #43
Thanks JimDandy, yeah it's time to get back in the saddle! nt Land Shark Feb 2016 #62
Both men are absolutely heroes. I was an activist at that jwirr Feb 2016 #26
I love this thread. wouldsman Feb 2016 #27
I will tolerate ZERO disrespect of John Lewis. ZERO. MuttLikeMe Feb 2016 #28
Nice to hear. Keep saying it, please. randys1 Feb 2016 #55
oh they can miss me with that BULLSHIT MuttLikeMe Feb 2016 #61
I mentioned in another thread on this subject... gregcrawford Feb 2016 #29
Rep Lewis is a Hero, imo fredamae Feb 2016 #30
Stab in the back dpatbrown Feb 2016 #31
I still stand with both men d_legendary1 Feb 2016 #32
You can endorse someone without questioning their rival's integrity... raindaddy Feb 2016 #38
John Lewis and Bernie Sanders -2 of just 67 Members of the House to vote No on DOMA Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #40
Wow, powerful words. Thx for the quote. Vattel Feb 2016 #50
I took time to find the video. madfloridian Feb 2016 #41
Did you see this mad? Autumn Feb 2016 #49
Yes. It's possible to stand with those who don't endorse my candidate. joshcryer Feb 2016 #42
I have all of the respect in the world for John Lewis. Chakab Feb 2016 #44
K&R Autumn. Real class. Amimnoch Feb 2016 #45
What most people don't know about Lewis tavernier Feb 2016 #47
I agree. We cannot allow the Clinton campaign to divide all of us who fight for civil rights. liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #48
Me too. I just wish Lewis hadn't sounded so suspicious of Bernie NowSam Feb 2016 #52
Bernie should make a statement saying he respects his opinion marlakay Feb 2016 #54
He's implying Bernie is not being honest. No excuse for that. madfloridian Feb 2016 #56
Exactly. MuseRider Feb 2016 #57
Thank you for this thoughtful and civil post. TheProgressive Feb 2016 #59
Nicely said! mcar Feb 2016 #60
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Feb 2016 #63
John Lewis took to the streets ready to die for black liberation MuttLikeMe Feb 2016 #64

myrna minx

(22,772 posts)
1. I am a Bernie supporter and I also wholly respect and appreciate all that John Lewis has done and
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 04:27 PM
Feb 2016

continues to do to fight for equality in this country.

Autumn

(44,986 posts)
9. Here's what matters. We know John Lewis and
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 04:34 PM
Feb 2016

we know Bernie Sanders. Elon James White nailed it in this tweet, Bernie was not known then. Bernie was among the thousands in the crowd.

https://twitter.com/elonjames/status/697867310644658176

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
34. that and my cousin Debby who left rural Oregon near where the refuge thing is
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 06:29 PM
Feb 2016

going on and was a freedom rider all through the south. Go, DEBBIE too!

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
37. she blew everyone's minds. She was on a bus and went door to door to register
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 06:38 PM
Feb 2016

AA's to vote. The Klan would come at night and discourage them. It was so fucking dangerous that when I look at her now, a sweet middle aged girl who teaches, I still am in awe.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
11. :)
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 04:38 PM
Feb 2016


Always like this clip and what's going on today reminded me of it.

I also think John Lewis and Bernie Sanders are both definitely heroes.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
35. "Did MLK welcome all?"
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 06:32 PM
Feb 2016

I don't know, not in the inner circle. That said, why is Mr. Lewis relevant today?

We need more unity to move forward, not more division, imo.

 

Dems to Win

(2,161 posts)
18. My admiration and respect for John Lewis is lifelong
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 05:17 PM
Feb 2016

My admiration and respect for John Lewis is lifelong. No primary kerfluffle could ever change that. Good people can come to different conclusions about the best candidate for the Democrats.

I will vote for Bernie and continue to respect John Lewis.
 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
23. Wouldn't be the first time a hero stumbled. Makes 'em seem more like us, doesn't it?
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 05:36 PM
Feb 2016

I think that is valuable, not everyone sees it that way.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
39. I am going to keep in mind what you just wrote,
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:01 PM
Feb 2016

because otherwise my heart will break over what a good man such as John Lewis just did in the name of politics and Hillary's kitchen sink.

longship

(40,416 posts)
24. Likewise, but I am not allowed to say so in the Bernie group.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 05:53 PM
Feb 2016

Because I supported the DU TOS. Apparently that is against the Bernie group SOP.

Under such conditions, I don't know what good the candidate groups do other than to just piss off people, no matter who they support.

Remarkably, I can still post in the Hillary group, since I am respectful, something the Bernie group hosts apparently never take into consideration. It isn't sufficient that one should support the candidate, one must also support all the group members, even when they flagrantly violate the DU TOS and are tombstoned.

Pitiful!

And apparently the same is happening in the other candidate groups.

I cherish my freedom in the Hillary group and promise to never abuse it.

Too bad about the Bernie group. Their hosts need to get a grip on what's helpful and what's not. They also need to align their SOP so that it supports the DU TOS.

Sorry for the rant, but this bullshit needs to be exposed.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
43. Land Shark!! How are you? Haven't seen you post in ages
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:17 PM
Feb 2016

You always had good info for the DU Elections forum.

Boy this primary season has gotten ugly. "Ditto" may be the least inflamatory thing to say in this atmosphere.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
26. Both men are absolutely heroes. I was an activist at that
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 05:58 PM
Feb 2016

time also. But absolutely not one in the front line.

wouldsman

(94 posts)
27. I love this thread.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 05:58 PM
Feb 2016

John is a hero of mine. Bernie is a hero of mine. Bernie supporters are awesome. I feel the love. Let's meet their "wedgy" ways with our inclusive ways. Quit building walls and start mending fences.

MuttLikeMe

(279 posts)
28. I will tolerate ZERO disrespect of John Lewis. ZERO.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 05:59 PM
Feb 2016

Yeah, Bernie marched....but he didn't get his head bludgeoned within an inch of his fucking life for MY RIGHT TO VOTE.....John Lewis did.

I respect Sen. Sanders very much....I love his passion....if he's the nominee you better fucking believe I'm a vote for him....but I will NOT TOLERATE ANY disrespect of Congressman lewis...FUCKING PERIOD.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
55. Nice to hear. Keep saying it, please.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 08:25 PM
Feb 2016

So far today I heard he was Hillary's slave with a bad memory and that he is trying to divide the American people.

I heard those fucking things right here on DU, believe it or not.

MuttLikeMe

(279 posts)
61. oh they can miss me with that BULLSHIT
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 10:00 PM
Feb 2016

dividing the country? I don't THINK so.

watch this new take on white privilege get real interesting.

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
29. I mentioned in another thread on this subject...
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 06:08 PM
Feb 2016

... that I think Mr. Lewis' remarks were grossly misrepresented by an oily reporter with an axe to grind. In the first OP I saw, Darren Sands interjected misleading characterizations between quotes attributed to Mr. Lewis in an obvious effort to throw shade on Bernie's participation in the Civil Rights movement in the early sixties. In typical fashion, certain factions within the Clinton camp implied, with no real proof, that John Lewis was casting doubt on the veracity of Bernie's documented Civil Rights record.

Such underhanded efforts to discredit Sanders really should be beneath Secretary Clinton. She would be wise to rein in the less scrupulous members of her staff; they are doing more harm than good.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
30. Rep Lewis is a Hero, imo
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 06:09 PM
Feb 2016

This is all a mountain of crap stirred by Media, imo.

Regardless of intent in publishing this piece-it Has succeeded as Bait to have yet another argument.
This is only deepening the Divide between HRC supporters and Bernie supporters.

I personally have Long admired Rep Lewis. I do believe that he and everyone else who have made their choices of whom to support have every bit as much right to choose a candidate of Their choice as I do.
It's democracy.

Let's don't do this. Please.

 

dpatbrown

(368 posts)
31. Stab in the back
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 06:15 PM
Feb 2016

I really believe the exposure Lewis and the others received, downplaying Sanders involvement in civil rights for the last 50 years, and also trying to convince us that they(or some) were from the streets to justify themselves, equates to me as "a stab in the back".

raindaddy

(1,370 posts)
38. You can endorse someone without questioning their rival's integrity...
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 06:39 PM
Feb 2016

Like John Lewis had his antenna extended for a young bespectacled curly haired Jewish dude during the civil rights movement way back in the 60's...

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
40. John Lewis and Bernie Sanders -2 of just 67 Members of the House to vote No on DOMA
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:08 PM
Feb 2016

Lewis asked his colleagues this: “Why do you want to destroy the love they hold in their hearts? Why do you want to crush their hopes, their dreams, their unions, their aspirations? We are talking about human beings, people like you.”

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
41. I took time to find the video.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:09 PM
Feb 2016

I think it would have been better if he simply endorsed Hillary and left out the other.

It sounds as though he is questioning Bernie's honesty.

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
44. I have all of the respect in the world for John Lewis.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:19 PM
Feb 2016

He's a more courageos person than I could ever hope to be.

However, that doesn't change the fact that his comments on Sanders' civil rights record were totally disingenuous, nor does it prevent me from pointing out the logical inconsistency of people who are hostile to Sanders for his positions on racial issues while supporting two people who've actually done damage to the black community with their actions as elected officials.

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
45. K&R Autumn. Real class.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:26 PM
Feb 2016

I can very honestly say I'd have done the same thing had it been the other way around.

I still admire the hell out of Susan Sarandon as well.

There's been waaaay too much tossing people under the bus (both sides) because of our support of our candidates (especially perplexing to me since in my estimate we've got 2 damn fine ones to be proud of.. ESPECIALLY when you consider that clown car the Republicans are running.

tavernier

(12,370 posts)
47. What most people don't know about Lewis
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 08:18 PM
Feb 2016

is how funny he is. He had us rolling in the aisles at a State convention, and it was genuine off the cuff interesting and humorous story telling. He outshined all the other speakers, including Obama.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
48. I agree. We cannot allow the Clinton campaign to divide all of us who fight for civil rights.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 08:19 PM
Feb 2016

John Lewis and Bernie Sanders both fought for civil rights and both deserve respect for it.

NowSam

(1,252 posts)
52. Me too. I just wish Lewis hadn't sounded so suspicious of Bernie
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 08:23 PM
Feb 2016

When he mentioned he never met him Bernie was one of how many thousands and thousands who demonstrated and marched? He was not yet a leader in the community. I believe him when he says he was there. Didn't Bernie even get arrested for protesting?

marlakay

(11,432 posts)
54. Bernie should make a statement saying he respects his opinion
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 08:24 PM
Feb 2016

Or something like that. I think they are trying to bait him and us by the things they are saying.

I think Bernie should be like Will Smith when that girl talked crap about him and he talked about how good she was on movie and how much he respected her.

MuseRider

(34,095 posts)
57. Exactly.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 08:33 PM
Feb 2016

This push to throw anyone who has done a hero's work for this country under the bus because of one thing, even if it is a big thing, they did or said is so immature. Nader is one example, Cornel West another and there are so many others.

I think what he said was terrible and I am upset that he is doing this and pissed off at the Clinton campaign (I don't think I can get any more pissed off than I have been at them for the last few decades) for their scummy but usual tactics. They obviously believe in laying waste to any and all good things done by someone that is not in their corner.

Sad.

Standing next to you.

MuttLikeMe

(279 posts)
64. John Lewis took to the streets ready to die for black liberation
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:43 PM
Feb 2016

don't come for him if he didn't call you.

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