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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 04:05 PM Feb 2016

Civil Rights Hero John Lewis Isn't Impressed By Bernie Sanders' Civil Rights Activism

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Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.), the preeminent voice on civil rights in Congress, downplayed Sanders' involvement with the SNCC and the movement during the CBC PAC's press conference Thursday.

"I never saw him, I never met him. I was chair of the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee for three years -- 1963 to 1966," he said. "I was involved in the sit-ins, the freedom rides, the March on Washington, the march from Selma to Montgomery. I directed the board of education project for six years. I met Hillary Clinton. I met President Clinton."

Rep. Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) also criticized Sanders' record on gun control, saying he has been "not just been missing in action, he’s been on the wrong side."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/john-lewis-bernie-sanders_us_56bcb50ae4b08ffac1241f55
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Civil Rights Hero John Lewis Isn't Impressed By Bernie Sanders' Civil Rights Activism (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 OP
They are doing their best to crush Bernie but it ain't happening. bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #1
If I were an important leader I would be jealous of Bernie Land Shark Feb 2016 #40
I wonder what he think's of Hillary's politics in the 60s! reformist2 Feb 2016 #2
OK. I'm sure Senator Sanders respects him all the same. TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #3
Is this John Lewis? PonyUp Feb 2016 #4
John is a nice man and is willing pose for photos. DCBob Feb 2016 #7
Guess you have moved on UglyGreed Feb 2016 #12
Yes - this photo was taken last year Empowerer Feb 2016 #13
How many times has UglyGreed Feb 2016 #24
I'm not sure - I know she went in 2007. Empowerer Feb 2016 #25
Thank you UglyGreed Feb 2016 #26
I think Bernie's problem, fair or not, is that he seems superficial.. DCBob Feb 2016 #5
Why doesn't Sanders support of Jesse Jackson influence anyone? Chrissmithistaken Feb 2016 #8
Not sure entirely but.. DCBob Feb 2016 #21
Jesse Jackson was the last candidate who was similar to Bernie hollowdweller Feb 2016 #22
Jesse Jackson? bravenak Feb 2016 #38
You are the one who suggested Bernie should wear blackface Bjorn Against Feb 2016 #15
Haha.. I was being a bit fecitious when I posted that. DCBob Feb 2016 #17
Leave it Paulie Feb 2016 #37
Looks like a joke bravenak Feb 2016 #39
You can tell by reading it was an attempt of hyperbole for effect ... no need for false outrage uponit7771 Feb 2016 #46
Why can't he show the heart and respect that this champion shows? arcane1 Feb 2016 #16
Clinton was a month behind Sanders in having this sit down. evilrobert Feb 2016 #18
Hey, Welcome to DU! (nt) pat_k Feb 2016 #43
Not to me NowSam Feb 2016 #33
I'm part of the GLBT community. PyaarRevolution Feb 2016 #41
I am impressed. EmperorHasNoClothes Feb 2016 #6
I trust John Lewis on this issue Gothmog Feb 2016 #9
Yeah, but what does HE know? Empowerer Feb 2016 #10
People are paying closer attention ... NurseJackie Feb 2016 #11
And as they do, and if they're honest and/or curious, they'll learn this: elleng Feb 2016 #32
So if Lewis didn't validate your card you never supported civil rights? NightWatcher Feb 2016 #14
I think part of it was to interrupt the reporter before they could say details about Bernie's record arcane1 Feb 2016 #19
Well, he may not have met him, but we have proof Bernie was convicted Fawke Em Feb 2016 #20
Thanks, Fawke. elleng Feb 2016 #31
You should forward this to lewis! juxtaposed Feb 2016 #36
Watch Bernie get attacked for having a criminal record jfern Feb 2016 #44
So what. I was part of it and I never saw either of them. ancianita Feb 2016 #23
Ditto elleng Feb 2016 #30
The movement was quite large quaker bill Feb 2016 #27
RIGHT. elleng Feb 2016 #29
Sounds like he's not fully aware of it. elleng Feb 2016 #28
I'm not happy about this. Just as I'm not happy with the recent words of Gloria Steinem. delrem Feb 2016 #48
no bodies impressed with hrc pseudo b/s of meeting MLK with her mother when she was a kid... juxtaposed Feb 2016 #34
I am not either. nt LexVegas Feb 2016 #35
DU rec...nt SidDithers Feb 2016 #42
Bernie supporters: don't bother. cali Feb 2016 #45
uh huh. so you say. good for you. you should congratulate yourself. delrem Feb 2016 #47

Land Shark

(6,346 posts)
40. If I were an important leader I would be jealous of Bernie
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:41 PM
Feb 2016

Having labored so well for so many years and never got the rock star crowds Bernie Sanders is getting. Maybe this is just me though and other leaders don't have feelings.

Empowerer

(3,900 posts)
13. Yes - this photo was taken last year
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 05:40 PM
Feb 2016

The first time that Sanders attended the annual commemoration of Bloody Sunday led by John Lewis and hosted by the CBC.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
5. I think Bernie's problem, fair or not, is that he seems superficial..
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 04:10 PM
Feb 2016

when it comes to issues affecting the black community. He has the resume but seems not to have the heart or the feeling. Maybe not fair but I think that's the problem for many African Americans. They just dont feel it from Bernie like they do with Hillary or Bill Clinton.

8. Why doesn't Sanders support of Jesse Jackson influence anyone?
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 05:20 PM
Feb 2016

I am asking this sincerely. As I try to learn more about Sanders (I really knew nothing really about him until recently, so I am not trying at all to pretend to be an expert), I just learned that he worked for Jesse Jackson's presidential campaign previously. That seems like a really important sign of bona fide good faith. I mean, this was at a time when a lot of people were even annoyed at Jesse Jackson for daring to disrupt the party and possibly split the party and things like that.

Like I said, I'm still trying to get caught up with the political situation right now, but I am really surprised that I found this information only after a lot of googling and stuff. I'm having a hard time finding solid info, but it seems based on what I've read so far, that the Clintons did not endorse Jackson or anything.

So ... what am I missing about that?

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
21. Not sure entirely but..
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 08:53 PM
Feb 2016

I suspect its because Jessie Jackson is not held as high regard as someone like John Lewis.

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
22. Jesse Jackson was the last candidate who was similar to Bernie
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:00 PM
Feb 2016

He ran a very middle class campaign. Pro union, anti free trade.

"Education and day care on the front side rather than welfare and jail care on the flip side"


"How many of you have a VCR??" hands in crowd go up. "OK, now how many of you have a MX missle?? America doesn't make anything people want"

I still have my Just Say Jesse button somewhere.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
15. You are the one who suggested Bernie should wear blackface
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 05:51 PM
Feb 2016

You have no business suggesting Bernie is out of touch with the black community when you wrote these extremely out of touch words...

56. He needs to do something outrageous.

Maybe wear a hoodie and a black face mask and walk down a street in a rich white neighborhood late at night and see what happens.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251462769

When you suggest Bernie should wear blackface as a way of reaching out to the black community you lose any credibility when it comes to discussing racial issues.

Bernie is not the one who is out of touch, you are.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
17. Haha.. I was being a bit fecitious when I posted that.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 06:30 PM
Feb 2016

However it might not be such a bad idea. A bit like the boss working the factory line to see the reality of how his employees feel. It might also generate some sympathy for him in the black community. Just a crazy idea.. take or leave it.

evilrobert

(1 post)
18. Clinton was a month behind Sanders in having this sit down.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 06:49 PM
Feb 2016

Because Sanders had already met with folks from the Black Lives Matters movement in September, when Clinton finally got to it in October. Sanders didn't have a TV / media crew present to document it for media spin, and met privately with them to discuss what change they wanted to see, what they wanted him to hear, and where they felt the biggest issues impacting them were.

So, the rebuttal question is why can't Clinton show heart and respect by meeting and listening to BLM without attempting to make it into media fluff for her own image?

NowSam

(1,252 posts)
33. Not to me
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:28 PM
Feb 2016

I think he speaks out against all the injustices better than anyone I have ever heard and from the heart.

PyaarRevolution

(814 posts)
41. I'm part of the GLBT community.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:47 PM
Feb 2016

And don't think Hillary cares about me. Each of our communities are diverse.

EmperorHasNoClothes

(4,797 posts)
6. I am impressed.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 04:11 PM
Feb 2016

Nearly 50 years later, and he can still remember everyone he met in the 60's.

I have a lot of respect for John Lewis, but this is nothing going more than bullshit politics.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
11. People are paying closer attention ...
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 05:39 PM
Feb 2016

... and it appears that they're not completely thrilled with what they're noticing.

elleng

(130,732 posts)
32. And as they do, and if they're honest and/or curious, they'll learn this:
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:27 PM
Feb 2016

For information, Bernie Sanders' Early political activism:

'While at the University of Chicago, Sanders joined the Young People's Socialist League, the youth affiliate of the Socialist Party of America, and was active in the Civil Rights Movement as a student organizer for the Congress of Racial Equality and the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee. In January 1962, Sanders led a rally at the University of Chicago administration building to protest university president George Wells Beadle's segregated campus housing policy. "We feel it is an intolerable situation when Negro and white students of the university cannot live together in university-owned apartments," Sanders said at the protest. Sanders and 32 other students then entered the building and camped outside the president's office, performing the first civil rights sit-in in Chicago history. After weeks of sit-ins, Beadle and the university formed a commission to investigate discrimination. He once spent a day putting up fliers protesting against police brutality, only to eventually notice that a Chicago police car was shadowing him and taking them all down.

Sanders attended the 1963 March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom, where Martin Luther King, Jr. gave his "I Have a Dream" speech. That summer, he was convicted of resisting arrest during a demonstration against segregation in Chicago's public schools and was fined $25.

In addition to his civil rights activism during the 1960s and 1970s, Sanders was active in several peace and antiwar movements. He was a member of the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee and the Student Peace Union while attending the University of Chicago. Sanders applied for conscientious objector status during the Vietnam War; his application was eventually turned down, by which point he was too old to be drafted. Although he opposed the war, Sanders never placed any blame on those who fought and has been a strong supporter of veterans' benefits.

Liberty Union campaigns
Sanders began his political career in 1971 as a member of the Liberty Union Party, which originated in the anti-war movement and the People's Party. He ran as the Liberty Union candidate for governor of Vermont in 1972 and 1976 and as a candidate for U.S. senator in 1972 and 1974. In the 1974 Senatorial race, Sanders finished third (5,901 votes; 4.1%) behind the victor, 33-year-old Chittenden County State's Attorney Patrick Leahy (D, VI; 70,629 votes; 49.4%), and two-term incumbent U.S. Representative Dick Mallary (R; 66,223 votes; 46.3%).

The 1976 campaign proved to be the zenith of Liberty Union's influence, with Sanders collecting 11,000 votes for Governor and the party forcing the races for Lieutenant Governor and Secretary of State to be decided by the state legislature when its vote total prevented either the Republican or Democratic candidates for those offices from garnering a majority of votes. The campaign drained the finances and energy of the Liberty Union, however, and in October 1977 — less than a year after the conclusion of the 1976 campaign — Sanders and the Liberty Union candidate for Attorney General, Nancy Kaufman, announced their retirement from the party.'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
19. I think part of it was to interrupt the reporter before they could say details about Bernie's record
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 06:51 PM
Feb 2016

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
20. Well, he may not have met him, but we have proof Bernie was convicted
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 06:53 PM
Feb 2016

because he was one of the leaders of a segregation protest.



And, now we have a quote from Lewis' book that says he didn't meet the Clintons until the 70s.

elleng

(130,732 posts)
28. Sounds like he's not fully aware of it.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:22 PM
Feb 2016

Can't really blame him, as there was so much going on at the time, but I'm disappointed that he's gone public with this.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
48. I'm not happy about this. Just as I'm not happy with the recent words of Gloria Steinem.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 07:02 AM
Feb 2016

There's no way that I can explain them, to say nothing of "Bernie-Splaining(tm)" them.

These are people of my generation.

I can't account for anyone else of my generation except myself.
What I can say is that I've fucking well hated the Reagan years, the Bush years, and the Clinton years left me queasy, uncomfortable with myself for thinking "he's better than Reagan" was good enough argument for anything. Better, like unprescribed morphine might make things look better. I'm not comfortable with Obama ordering the assassination of people by drones, in an undefined "War on Terror" of world-wide scope. I'm uncomfortable with Obama hiring Hillary Clinton to be his first SoS. I'm marginally more comfortable with Obama's second term, with Kerry as SoS, but I'm doubly uncomfortable that the entire Democratic party establishment is behind Hillary Clinton's run in this primary, considering that she'll undo all of that on her first day.

People, you've got to make a stand.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
47. uh huh. so you say. good for you. you should congratulate yourself.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 06:47 AM
Feb 2016

I would never be so brave as you, to put down Bernie Sanders' Civil rights activism in such profane terms.

You must feel proud.

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