2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumCivil Rights Hero John Lewis Isn't Impressed By Bernie Sanders' Civil Rights Activism
Ouch!
Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.), the preeminent voice on civil rights in Congress, downplayed Sanders' involvement with the SNCC and the movement during the CBC PAC's press conference Thursday.
"I never saw him, I never met him. I was chair of the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee for three years -- 1963 to 1966," he said. "I was involved in the sit-ins, the freedom rides, the March on Washington, the march from Selma to Montgomery. I directed the board of education project for six years. I met Hillary Clinton. I met President Clinton."
Rep. Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) also criticized Sanders' record on gun control, saying he has been "not just been missing in action, hes been on the wrong side."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/john-lewis-bernie-sanders_us_56bcb50ae4b08ffac1241f55
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)Land Shark
(6,346 posts)Having labored so well for so many years and never got the rock star crowds Bernie Sanders is getting. Maybe this is just me though and other leaders don't have feelings.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)And I encourage the rest of DU to do so as well.
PonyUp
(1,680 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)Your point??
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)Empowerer
(3,900 posts)The first time that Sanders attended the annual commemoration of Bloody Sunday led by John Lewis and hosted by the CBC.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)Hillary gone to this event? Not being rude, just was wondering.
Empowerer
(3,900 posts)Not sure if she went any other years.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)when it comes to issues affecting the black community. He has the resume but seems not to have the heart or the feeling. Maybe not fair but I think that's the problem for many African Americans. They just dont feel it from Bernie like they do with Hillary or Bill Clinton.
Chrissmithistaken
(1 post)I am asking this sincerely. As I try to learn more about Sanders (I really knew nothing really about him until recently, so I am not trying at all to pretend to be an expert), I just learned that he worked for Jesse Jackson's presidential campaign previously. That seems like a really important sign of bona fide good faith. I mean, this was at a time when a lot of people were even annoyed at Jesse Jackson for daring to disrupt the party and possibly split the party and things like that.
Like I said, I'm still trying to get caught up with the political situation right now, but I am really surprised that I found this information only after a lot of googling and stuff. I'm having a hard time finding solid info, but it seems based on what I've read so far, that the Clintons did not endorse Jackson or anything.
So ... what am I missing about that?
DCBob
(24,689 posts)I suspect its because Jessie Jackson is not held as high regard as someone like John Lewis.
hollowdweller
(4,229 posts)He ran a very middle class campaign. Pro union, anti free trade.
"Education and day care on the front side rather than welfare and jail care on the flip side"
"How many of you have a VCR??" hands in crowd go up. "OK, now how many of you have a MX missle?? America doesn't make anything people want"
I still have my Just Say Jesse button somewhere.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Dang! You took me way back.
Try to get Drake.
Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)You have no business suggesting Bernie is out of touch with the black community when you wrote these extremely out of touch words...
Maybe wear a hoodie and a black face mask and walk down a street in a rich white neighborhood late at night and see what happens.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251462769
When you suggest Bernie should wear blackface as a way of reaching out to the black community you lose any credibility when it comes to discussing racial issues.
Bernie is not the one who is out of touch, you are.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)However it might not be such a bad idea. A bit like the boss working the factory line to see the reality of how his employees feel. It might also generate some sympathy for him in the black community. Just a crazy idea.. take or leave it.
In the stinking pile it belongs.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)uponit7771
(90,301 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)evilrobert
(1 post)Because Sanders had already met with folks from the Black Lives Matters movement in September, when Clinton finally got to it in October. Sanders didn't have a TV / media crew present to document it for media spin, and met privately with them to discuss what change they wanted to see, what they wanted him to hear, and where they felt the biggest issues impacting them were.
So, the rebuttal question is why can't Clinton show heart and respect by meeting and listening to BLM without attempting to make it into media fluff for her own image?
pat_k
(9,313 posts)I think he speaks out against all the injustices better than anyone I have ever heard and from the heart.
PyaarRevolution
(814 posts)And don't think Hillary cares about me. Each of our communities are diverse.
EmperorHasNoClothes
(4,797 posts)Nearly 50 years later, and he can still remember everyone he met in the 60's.
I have a lot of respect for John Lewis, but this is nothing going more than bullshit politics.
Gothmog
(144,919 posts)Empowerer
(3,900 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... and it appears that they're not completely thrilled with what they're noticing.
elleng
(130,732 posts)For information, Bernie Sanders' Early political activism:
'While at the University of Chicago, Sanders joined the Young People's Socialist League, the youth affiliate of the Socialist Party of America, and was active in the Civil Rights Movement as a student organizer for the Congress of Racial Equality and the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee. In January 1962, Sanders led a rally at the University of Chicago administration building to protest university president George Wells Beadle's segregated campus housing policy. "We feel it is an intolerable situation when Negro and white students of the university cannot live together in university-owned apartments," Sanders said at the protest. Sanders and 32 other students then entered the building and camped outside the president's office, performing the first civil rights sit-in in Chicago history. After weeks of sit-ins, Beadle and the university formed a commission to investigate discrimination. He once spent a day putting up fliers protesting against police brutality, only to eventually notice that a Chicago police car was shadowing him and taking them all down.
Sanders attended the 1963 March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom, where Martin Luther King, Jr. gave his "I Have a Dream" speech. That summer, he was convicted of resisting arrest during a demonstration against segregation in Chicago's public schools and was fined $25.
In addition to his civil rights activism during the 1960s and 1970s, Sanders was active in several peace and antiwar movements. He was a member of the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee and the Student Peace Union while attending the University of Chicago. Sanders applied for conscientious objector status during the Vietnam War; his application was eventually turned down, by which point he was too old to be drafted. Although he opposed the war, Sanders never placed any blame on those who fought and has been a strong supporter of veterans' benefits.
Liberty Union campaigns
Sanders began his political career in 1971 as a member of the Liberty Union Party, which originated in the anti-war movement and the People's Party. He ran as the Liberty Union candidate for governor of Vermont in 1972 and 1976 and as a candidate for U.S. senator in 1972 and 1974. In the 1974 Senatorial race, Sanders finished third (5,901 votes; 4.1%) behind the victor, 33-year-old Chittenden County State's Attorney Patrick Leahy (D, VI; 70,629 votes; 49.4%), and two-term incumbent U.S. Representative Dick Mallary (R; 66,223 votes; 46.3%).
The 1976 campaign proved to be the zenith of Liberty Union's influence, with Sanders collecting 11,000 votes for Governor and the party forcing the races for Lieutenant Governor and Secretary of State to be decided by the state legislature when its vote total prevented either the Republican or Democratic candidates for those offices from garnering a majority of votes. The campaign drained the finances and energy of the Liberty Union, however, and in October 1977 less than a year after the conclusion of the 1976 campaign Sanders and the Liberty Union candidate for Attorney General, Nancy Kaufman, announced their retirement from the party.'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)because he was one of the leaders of a segregation protest.
And, now we have a quote from Lewis' book that says he didn't meet the Clintons until the 70s.
elleng
(130,732 posts)My old neighborhood too! (BEFORE me, of course.) And Obama's.
juxtaposed
(2,778 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)ancianita
(35,932 posts)quaker bill
(8,224 posts)lots of people did not meet other people.
elleng
(130,732 posts)elleng
(130,732 posts)Can't really blame him, as there was so much going on at the time, but I'm disappointed that he's gone public with this.
delrem
(9,688 posts)There's no way that I can explain them, to say nothing of "Bernie-Splaining(tm)" them.
These are people of my generation.
I can't account for anyone else of my generation except myself.
What I can say is that I've fucking well hated the Reagan years, the Bush years, and the Clinton years left me queasy, uncomfortable with myself for thinking "he's better than Reagan" was good enough argument for anything. Better, like unprescribed morphine might make things look better. I'm not comfortable with Obama ordering the assassination of people by drones, in an undefined "War on Terror" of world-wide scope. I'm uncomfortable with Obama hiring Hillary Clinton to be his first SoS. I'm marginally more comfortable with Obama's second term, with Kerry as SoS, but I'm doubly uncomfortable that the entire Democratic party establishment is behind Hillary Clinton's run in this primary, considering that she'll undo all of that on her first day.
People, you've got to make a stand.
juxtaposed
(2,778 posts)LexVegas
(6,030 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
cali
(114,904 posts)delrem
(9,688 posts)I would never be so brave as you, to put down Bernie Sanders' Civil rights activism in such profane terms.
You must feel proud.