Univision Tracking Poll WITH LINK TO UNIVISION Sanders still winning

[Nanjeanne]

Last edited Thu Feb 11, 2016, 08:44 PM - Edit history (2)

Zaid Jilani ?@ZaidJilani 9m9 minutes ago
Univision Tracking Poll ("persuadable hispanic voters&quot going into Nevada

Poll from 2/3
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Edited to add easily found poll http://hispanic-vote.corporate.univision.com/hispanic-vote/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/PAG_Tracker_Jan_20_2016.pdf

[thereismore]

1. Really nice! Thank you for that. nt

[Jefferson23]

2. It is February 11, 2016. He was suppose to accomplish this 3 months ago, so I hear. So this must

be nonsense, or not good enough or something like that. lol

Thanks for posting!

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. Tracks nicely with what I am seeing locally

and what I am hearing locally. I love analytics

[99th_Monkey]

4. This is great news! It makes me happy.

Yet I have a question.

but (pardon my ignorance) I don't get why the % of support doesn't add up to 100%, it's way over ..
they add up instead to 120%.

[Qutzupalotl]

7. It's favorable vs. unfavorable,

and thankfully both our candidates are over 50% in this category.

[demwing]

42. Each candidate has their own 0-100% favorability range

Each could, potentially, score a 100%

[99th_Monkey]

85. Thank you Skinner. nt

that makes it clear.

[demwing]

114. You're very welcome, but I'm demwing

[99th_Monkey]

115. Drat! another post hijacked by my auto-fill function ... Sorry. but thank you anyway

even if you're not Skinner.

[Le Taz Hot]

5. Reflects exactly my experience

here in the San Joaquin Valley. I predict Hispanics and Asians will be a big part of his vote totals here in California.

[JRLeft]

10. So will a lot of young blacks in the bay area.

[padfun]

53. I see that in Sacramento as well.

[dpatbrown]

57. Ditto

My neighborhood too. It will be a landslide for Senator Sanders.

[WillyT]

6. HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!!

[Avalux]

8. Great news!

I also read elsewhere that Nevada turnout is expected to be heavier than normal. Also great news for Bernie!

[MisterP]

9. !pero, nuestra abuelita tiene tantos vinculos con Honduras!

[Divernan]

32. "But our granny has so many ties with Honduras"

And most of them bad!

Que Lástima, tan triste, se pierde, Hillary!

[roguevalley]

59. God, I wish I could speak Spanish. :D:D:D

[jillan]

11. Nobody talks about this but a majority of the Latino Coalition has come out & endorsed Bernie.

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/raul-grijalva-calls-on-arizona-latinos-to-support-bernie-sanders-7991542

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/bernie-sanders-gets-more-endorsements-from-arizona-latino-leaders-8040287

I haven't seen any recent polling in Az but Az has pretty much gone to Bernie - so far. Our primary isn't until the end of March.

[Dont call me Shirley]

24. With New Mexico taking a rapid ride down the tube, I've been seeing many Bernie stickers.

[AtomicKitten]

12. Great news and not surprising. k/r

[winter is coming]

13. Just last night, Maddow claimed it wasn't possible to poll in Nevada.

Apparently, Univision didn't listen to that bit of political wisdom.

[jhart3333]

14. K&R. Thanks for the good news Nanjeanne.

[retrowire]

15. Muy bueno! nt

[PatrynXX]

16. he gets the hispanics I'm not sure how much the Lobbying arm of the CBC would matter

He of course will still fight for them even if Hillary won't. But end game I could see this going this way. I don't see Bernie as pro ICE as Obama is and Hillary is to Obama's Right on many issues including ICE.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

17. the hits keep coming

Hillary can not make many more mistakes or she is toast - burnt

[artislife]

18. This is pretty hopeful as Univision

is kind of corporate vision and has ties to h.

I always thought if my people actually heard him, see him and get the feel of the man, he would resonate. Lots of older, grumpy radicals waving their arms and spraying spittle* for our people. He fits right in.


* I mean no disrespect, actually there is is a lot of love for the impassioned speakers of truth and justice

[ram2008]

19. I've said it from the beginning, Latinos will give Bernie the nomination

While his support was lower than with whites, it was only a matter of time once Latino's learned more that they would embrace his message. If Bernie picks up the support of Latinos (we'll see in Nevada) he now has a winning coalition within the party.

Bernie coalition: Millenials, whites, latinos

Hillary: Older individuals, Southerners and African Americans

In the end Bernie's coalition has more votes.

[DamnYankeeInHouston]

33. I'm an old (60), southern (35 years) mixed white and AA (1/32) and

I'm voting for Bernie.

[roguevalley]

60. hugs, damned yankee. I'm .... uh .... :} Up there. :D

[TIME TO PANIC]

20. K & R!

[Helen Borg]

21. But but....

9/11, goddammit!

[Kurovski]

26. Ooo, I like you Helen.

You're dark.

[kath]

22. So, in terms of favorables,Bernie has gained 4% and HRH lost 7.The gap increased by 11 in just 3 wks

That's pretty significant movement.

Yep, the more people learn about Bernie, the more they like him.
HRH, not so much.
.

[TubbersUK]

23. Long but interesting article here

It touches on criminal justice issues, immigration, policy on Latin America, welfare reforms.

Why Hillary Clinton Doesn’t Deserve the Latino Vote

The Nation has published a piece by Michelle Alexander titled “Why Hillary Clinton Doesn’t Deserve the Black Vote,” in which the author of The New Jim Crow describes how the policies Hillary has supported in the past have destroyed black communities from Baltimore to Oakland. As Alexander explains in the article — and in her book — Hillary’s husband Bill oversaw an explosion of incarceration rates among blacks during his presidency. He denied Pell grants to inmates, backed the denial of federal student aid to drug offenders, and signed a bill placing a lifetime ban on welfare benefits for anyone convicted of a felony drug offense. He also supported sentencing that punished crack users much tougher than cocaine users, and was a fan of the “three strikes” rule that imposed life sentences on three-time offenders, further inflaming the racial disparity in incarceration rates.

Plus these polices have targeted not only black people, but Latinos as well. Latino men are incarcerated at a rate two and a half times higher than their non-Latino white counterparts, and Latino men four times more likely to be imprisoned in their lifetimes than non-Latino white men. Close to a third of all inmates in federal prisons are Latino, and Latinos are the fastest growing group of inmates in both state and federal prisons. Hopefully I needn’t explain how cutting public welfare aid negatively affects Latino communities, which suffer wealth, income and educational disparities nearly comparable to blacks. /div]

http://www.latinorebels.com/2016/02/11/why-hillary-clinton-doesnt-deserve-the-latino-vote2/#sthash.Mt8lhJj1.dpuf

[SunSeeker]

58. Sanders voted for that 1994 Crime Bill, and against immigration reform. nt

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/10/19/bernie-sanders-cant-escape-questions-about-2007-vote-on-immigration-overhaul/

[Gore1FL]

70. He was asked about that. Because it was Sander's who was asked, we have an actual answer.

Q: In 2007, you voted against immigration reform. Why should Latino voters trust you now?

A: I voted against that piece of legislation because it had guest-worker provisions in it which the Southern Poverty Law Center talked about being semi-slavery. Guest workers are coming in, they're working under terrible conditions, but if they stand up for their rights, they're thrown out of the country. I was not the only progressive to vote against that legislation for that reason.

http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Bernie_Sanders_Immigration.htm

[TubbersUK]

73. From the same blogger :

Latino Rebels reached out to the Sanders campaign for comment about what the Vermont senator said in 2007. Cesar Vargas, who officially joined the Sanders team last month as a part of the campaign’s Latino outreach team, shared the following statement with via email:

Senator Sanders is consistent in his immigration record to protect immigrant and worker rights and he could not vote for the Bush-backed immigration legislation that would have allowed multi-national corporations to bring workers without labor protections that undermine working conditions and wages for all Americans. Indeed, a Sanders administration would authorize and substantially increase funding for the Legal Services Corporation to provide legal representation to guest workers who have been abused at the hands of corporate-employers or outsourcing firms.
Indeed, the Senator as President has committed to renewing and expanding Executive Action programs that protect undocumented immigrants and will fight to mobilize millions of Americans to support comprehensive and humane immigration reform policy.

[UglyGreed]

25. I don't recall where

I heard it or read it but it stated Hillary has never went up in the polls or in any elections. Always steady or her popularity has declined.

[dorkzilla]

28. I heard that Lawrence O’Donnell said that the other night

But I refuse to turn on MSNBC or click on one of their videos but you can look it up.

Sorry I know that wasn’t entirely helpful, but MSNBC is as much of a no-no for me as Walmart has ever been.

[UglyGreed]

30. Thanks that is probably where I heard it

just found that an interesting point

[Blus4u]

29. I heard that first, on the night of the NH Primary, from Lawrence O'Donnell

during MSNBC's post primary talkfest.


Peace

[UglyGreed]

31. OK Thank you I could not remember

where or when.

[NoMoreRepugs]

27. Bernie's momo is building as the MSM reluctantly continues to expand its coverage

of his candidacy. Don't make the mistake of thinking most people get their information from the interweb.. it's teevee and radio for a whole bunch of 'Mericans. Now that his name recognition and more importantly his message is being heard by the masses we shall see what happens.

[lunamagica]

34. Link, please? I don't see anything on Univision's website

[Nanjeanne]

36. sorry I don't know how to embed tweets

You can find it via Zaid Jilani's twitter account.

You probably know who he is, I would think but he's a staff reporter for The Intercept.

[Autumn Colors]

37. I went to the Twitter account, the tweet gives no source link

Would like to know why the total is 120%.

[Nanjeanne]

39. Tweet/Ask Zaid. Tracking polls measures changes of opinion so maybe that has something to do with it

If you tweet him - perhaps he will respond.

[Autumn Colors]

41. I don't have a Twitter account (nt)

[Nanjeanne]

43. I'll try!

[jeff47]

66. It's favorability, not "who will you vote for".

So each candidate has a separate 0-100%.

[lunamagica]

38. Yes, I saw the twitter feed. I'm asking for a link to the actual Univision poll, not a tweet. n/t

ETA. He was asked for a link, but hasn't provided one yet

[Nanjeanne]

40. Try tweeting Zaid and ask him where he got it. Might work.

[lunamagica]

46. There are at least two tweets asking him for a link, and he hasn't responded.

[Nanjeanne]

47. OK - I guess that means he photoshopped it and then tweeted him. What a slime.

[lunamagica]

50. I didn't say that. But don't you think it is strange that Univision's website has no mention at all

of this poll?

[Nanjeanne]

51. Not really. I don't know how they handle their tracking polls.

If it was posted by some anonymous poster on the internet I would be suspicious. I trust Zaid not to compromise his cred as a journalist for a number of progressive sites.

But that's me.

[lunamagica]

52. OK

[George II]

69. You should acknowledge that in your OP or better still, self delete the OP - it's false!

[George II]

68. How about embedding a link to the Univision Poll? This Zaid Jiliani doesn't have the link.

[Autumn Colors]

35. OK, I'm feeling math challenged now. Total = 120% ??

The two purple percentages add up to 120%, not 100%. What am I missing in the details here?

Would love to know where the person who tweeted this got the graphic from.

[ram2008]

48. It appears to be favorability numbers

Which means they're technically out of 100% for each candidate.

Ex: Obama has 50% approval meaning 50% disapprove/dont know, Biden 45% approval, Ryan 35% among the electorate etc.

In this case Bernie's numbers have gone up and Hillary's have gone down.

[Autumn Colors]

101. Ah .... OK, thank you. (nt)

[jalan48]

44. Looks like it's time for the Latino Caucus (READ PAC) to come out for Hillary.

[NightWatcher]

49. and tell them that if they don't support her they'll go to Hell.

[SoapBox]

45. Camp Weathervane probably isn't worried...believing the "Super Delegates" can hijack

the whole nomination.

And hey! Her campaign is doing that private fundraiser in Mexico City so, well, ya know...they are Latino!

[Gore1FL]

54. They must not have gotten the memo. n/t

[Arugula Latte]

55. Ooh, that's gonna leave a mark.

Very nice.

[d_legendary1]

56. As one of my best friends always says

EMPINGADO!

[George II]

61. Interesting - google "univision trackng poll" and one gets two references to this one....

....on Democratic Underground and Reddit.

Go to the Univision poll site itself, and this is all you get:

http://huelladigital.univisionnoticias.com/the-latin-vote/

Results of a poll last year.

I even googled that tiny "source" in the screen shot above, "univision political tracker". Nothing.

Any current reputable source for this poll?

[uponit7771]

64. It appears to be a photo shopped poll.. people are getting desperate

[George II]

65. That was my guess, but I thought I'd throw out the question first.

[SoapBox]

62. Zaid's Twitter page...

Oh...it's good!

https://mobile.twitter.com/ZaidJilani

[uponit7771]

63. THIS APPEARS TO BE PHOTO SHOPPED, THERE'S NO LINK ON UNIVISION'S WEBSITE

[George II]

67. It could either photo-shopped or a screen shot of a fake poll. Can't say since there's no....

....direct source.

It's billed as a "tracking poll", but Univision doesn't conduct or contract out "tracking polls".

Further, google "Media Predict" (the so called collaborator with Univision), and this is what you get:

"Media Predict is a game where you can predict, well, anything."

http://www.mediapredict.com/

[OilemFirchen]

75. Zaid Jilani would not risk his integrity as a reporter at The Intercept.

Or something, something as I read upthread. Because no one at The Intercept would ever, ever lie:

The Intercept Says Reporter Falsified Quotations

The news website The Intercept said on Tuesday that a former reporter had fabricated quotations in some of his articles and impersonated other people by using email accounts in their names.

c. 2/2/16 BTW.

[riversedge]

108. Desperation--but they only deceive themselves when posting Deceptive polls

[Gore1FL]

71. I looked for the poll as well and could not find it either. n/t

[malokvale77]

72. I'm sure that makes a few people at that network a bit unhappy.

Back on 10/04/2015, I took some screenshots (5 pages) of comments on Jorge Ramos' Facebook page after he declared that Hillary had the Latino vote in her pocket.

He was very mistaken.

[amborin]

74. Hillary said: Send the child migrants back to the violence in Central America

http://www.vox.com/2014/6/19/5819076/hillary-clinton-deport-send-back-message-asylum-unaccompanied-expedited-border

[Perogie]

76. Was it an online poll?

If it was, then Hill fans will claim it was a couple BernieBros clicking nonstop on the Macs.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

77. i am seeing nothing from the univision website.

I am seeing on twitter that this might be photoshopped. Anyone else find more concrete evidence?

[lunamagica]

79. I just finished watching the Univision nightly news. Nothing. There is NO WAY they would

have not reported on this.

I've searched and searched, and no one else is reporting this. Not Unvision, or anywhere else.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

80. i went to the media predict website and they don't do polling

In fact, it's a gaming site where you can predict future events and earn points.

[lunamagica]

84. Game site? Hahahahahahahahahaha!

[amborin]

93. here is more:

Hillary against driver's licenses, said send children back to CA to the violence, etc.

https://www.americarisingpac.org/martin-omalley-hillary-clinton-represents-the-failed-thinking-of-the-past-on-immigration/

and more:

http://www.vox.com/2014/6/19/5819076/hillary-clinton-deport-send-back-message-asylum-unaccompanied-expedited-border

[lunamagica]

96. Again, she voted YES on immigration reform,

Also Voted YES on continuing federal funds for declared "sanctuary cities".

Voted NO on declaring English as the official language of the US government.

Voted YES on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security.

Voted YES on giving Guest Workers a path to citizenship.

Sponsored bill covering child resident aliens under Medicaid.

Sponsored bill funding social services for noncitizens.

[amborin]

104. more here:

HCR voted against S. Amdt. 2620 in 2007, which called for increasing access to health care to low-income children based on need by adjusting for cost of living [source: U.S. Senate].

In 2007, Clinton voted against a measure (S. Amdt. 1197) that would have required health care be provided for nonresidents in the United States who hold Z visas [source: U.S. Senate].

Clinton voted in favor of Senate Amendment (S. Amdt.) 2797 in 2007, which prohibits the creation of any program that allows trucks from Mexico being operated beyond commercial zones near the border in the U.S. [source: U.S. Senate].

She voted in favor of H.R. 6061, the Secure Fence Act of 2006, which approved $1.2 billion for a 700-mile-long fence along the U.S./Mexico border [source: U.S. Senate].

Clinton voted against an unsuccessful amendment (S. Amdt. 1197) in 2007 that would have required health care coverage for holders of Z nonimmigrant visas [source: U.S. Senate].

[amborin]

78. Hillary on "illegal immigrants":

[lunamagica]

83. And Sanders VOTED against comprehensive immigration reform, and in favor of

the murderous racist militant minutemen.

These were more than words, this were actual votes, which did great harm the Latino comunity

[amborin]

89. Hillary agreed to the poison pill that killed immigration reform

[lunamagica]

94. Hillary Voted YES on comprehensive immigration reform.

Also Voted YES on continuing federal funds for declared "sanctuary cities".

Voted NO on declaring English as the official language of the US government.

Voted YES on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security.

Voted YES on giving Guest Workers a path to citizenship.

Sponsored bill covering child resident aliens under Medicaid.

Sponsored bill funding social services for noncitizens.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

82. jury results

Univision Tracking Poll of Latino voters now has Bernie as more popular with the group than Hillary
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511202023

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

It has been concluded that the tracking poll is photo shopped. The supposed tracking firm Media Predict is actually a game site. Go see for yourself at www.mediapredict.com. So, base on these new information, I think this post is in appropriate and spreading misinformation. 

JURY RESULTS

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:16 PM, and voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT ALONE.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
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Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
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Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Yawn. "I don't like this poll" "I don't like that poll" "Look at this poll, I like this one" When are you going to understand, you're not going to find the answer you're looking for in a poll?

[William769]

86. Great Photoshop!

Guess we know why there's no link.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

88. It's photoshopped and the Jury still decided to keep it up. I don't get it. Nt

[DCBob]

90. Really??

What are the real numbers?

[DCBob]

92. This may be the real one.. (on edit.. its fake)

Not sure because its from some Twitter account.

https://twitter.com/ZaidJilani/status/692818532212543488

[ProudToBeLiberal]

95. It's from the same reporter who is posting the fake screen shots. Nt

[DCBob]

97. Right.. just figured that out.

Thanks.

[George II]

99. Well, we've had a lot of online polls in the last few months, most showing.....

.....Sanders ahead by 87-13 or thereabouts in 50 states, so it's no surprise that we're now seeing fake poll results on twitter.

[wyldwolf]

87. I guess the Bernie campaign is a good influence on his followers

Campaign puts out false campaign info, so do his followers.

[William769]

91. +1.

[DCBob]

98. This is bogus.

Go to the Univision site.. there is nothing about this. Only the poll from last year.

http://huelladigital.univisionnoticias.com/the-latin-vote/

Bernie supporters again pushing false information.

[Autumn Colors]

102. I think this one can be blamed on the person on Twitter

if it's really false. I'm not about to post this anywhere else, though, because I couldn't find anything other than that tweet either (and I'm a Bernie supporter).

[DCBob]

105. Then Miss Nanjeanne should delete this.

Right?

[Beacool]

100. There's no such poll in the Univision site.

Where is the link to the actual poll?

[bettyellen]

103. Faked poll?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511205166#post5

[Nanjeanne]

107. Sorry to disappoint but the actual poll is easy to find

Just went to Univision and searched their bi monthly tracking poll and downloaded it.

http://hispanic-vote.corporate.univision.com/hispanic-vote/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/PAG_Tracker_Jan_20_2016.pdf

No problem. I'm sure your over reactions are perfectly reasonable.

[Jefferson23]

109. Thank you, it is dated January 20, 2016 The Net Favorability Trend is interesting.

[wildeyed]

111. WTF is Media Predict?

It is some sort of game that pays you money to make predictions? I googled the poling company and this is what I got:

Make your predictions
We give you real money to use in the game. There’s no risk. And if you make good predictions, the winnings are all yours!

http://www.mediapredict.com

And what are "persuadable voters"? Persuadables, in campaign parlance, have not yet made up their minds. They are undecided or weakly decided.

[George II]

110. Ah, so you found the "real" poll (maybe), but contrary to your revised title, it IS fake or....

....still not the real one.

Your graphic above shows the Hispanic ratings at:

Sanders 66, Clinton 54. (Sanders +12)

BUT, Slide 4 at your link shows the ratings at:

Sanders 62, Clinton 61. (Sanders +1!!!!)

And for the non-Hispanics, your graphic shows:

Sanders 50, Clinton 39

BUT, Slide 4 at your link shows:

Sanders 50, Clinton 42

But, you're getting closer.

[wildeyed]

112. The new one is totally bogus too.

What does this even mean? It gives you a market prediction and you make an over/under bet. That is not a poll. I dunno what that is.

http://www.mediapredict.com

[George II]

113. Exactly.