2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum"I don't own the words that come out of my mouth. Someone else does."
Plan on reading some version of that within the next 72 hours.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Such honesty would be refreshing
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)... (which I assume you are), it has nothing to do with who owns the words spoken; it has to do with who owns the transcription of those words.
I now understand that Hillary owns the transcripts as per her speaking engagement contracts.
And she has the right to tell anyone who wants access to those transcripts to go pound sand. And I hope she finds the "polite words" to convey that message.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)Someone DOES own the transcript wherein those words were recorded.
That "someone" in this case is Hillary.
And that someone is under no obligation to release the transcript that recorded those words to you, or anyone else.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)I think she should provide the transcripts or videos of her speeches, but I don't think there will be any problem with them.
People give nice speeches at the kinds of events at which she spoke. I would be very surprised if the speeches give rise to any controversy of any kind whatsoever.
All of the candidates should make their speeches in say the past 12 years, available to the public. I'd love to see the transcripts of the speeches of the Republicans. Now there might be some really disgusting, shocking stuff in those.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Go for it, Abuella.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)But the consequences of that action may very well not help her at all.
NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)... the only reason BSers are desperate to see those transcripts is because they're hoping they can find something that will be the downfall of HRC's campaign.
And the reason they are desperate to find something that will be the downfall of HRC's campaign is because that's the ONLY way Bernie has a shot at the nomination.
He can't win it on his own merits. Unless Hillary is "taken down" by something catastrophic, BS doesn't stand a chance.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Abuella can do what she likes and keep the transcript secret, but if she keeps them hidden from view it raises the concern that she can't be trusted.
catnhatnh
(8,976 posts)What we expect to find is absolute pedestrian drivel. That's what we want EVERYBODY to see-that she has accepted millions of dollars for NOTHING of value. And then we will let everyone draw their own conclusions...
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)But as usual with her, refusing to share them raises the live possibility that something in there is damning. It also indicates that that's how she will behave as president. Channeling Nixon is not a good idea
grasswire
(50,130 posts)....someone posted here part of her standard agreement for speeches, and it specifies that no transcript or video of any event may be kept other than her own, and that she has the rights thereof.
So she's got it all locked up, unless there was a bartender who left his phone on.
BainsBane
(53,026 posts)Watch away. http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511154975
SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)Apple.meet orange