Fri Feb 5, 2016, 02:08 PM
whatchamacallit (15,558 posts)
I want a woman president
for the female strengths, qualities, and sensibilities this testosterone poisoned country is so badly lacking, not because it's a woman's turn to drive the feudalistic war wagon over the skulls of brown babies.
Hillary ain't it. Flame away.
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whatchamacallit | Feb 2016 | OP |
bkkyosemite | Feb 2016 | #1 | |
reformist2 | Feb 2016 | #9 | |
CTyankee | Feb 2016 | #32 | |
DebbieCDC | Feb 2016 | #2 | |
jham123 | Feb 2016 | #3 | |
deutsey | Feb 2016 | #4 | |
kath | Feb 2016 | #12 | |
Fawke Em | Feb 2016 | #14 | |
deutsey | Feb 2016 | #16 | |
Wig Master | Feb 2016 | #25 | |
stillwaiting | Feb 2016 | #5 | |
sabrina 1 | Feb 2016 | #6 | |
whatchamacallit | Feb 2016 | #22 | |
Wig Master | Feb 2016 | #28 | |
whatchamacallit | Feb 2016 | #36 | |
merrily | Feb 2016 | #29 | |
earthside | Feb 2016 | #7 | |
kath | Feb 2016 | #13 | |
CharlotteVale | Feb 2016 | #8 | |
Erich Bloodaxe BSN | Feb 2016 | #10 | |
TheProgressive | Feb 2016 | #11 | |
whatchamacallit | Feb 2016 | #23 | |
Karma13612 | Feb 2016 | #34 | |
AgingAmerican | Feb 2016 | #15 | |
Ferd Berfel | Feb 2016 | #18 | |
whatchamacallit | Feb 2016 | #21 | |
Donkees | Feb 2016 | #19 | |
Ferd Berfel | Feb 2016 | #17 | |
Donkees | Feb 2016 | #20 | |
Mnpaul | Feb 2016 | #39 | |
Donkees | Feb 2016 | #42 | |
eridani | Feb 2016 | #24 | |
merrily | Feb 2016 | #27 | |
merrily | Feb 2016 | #26 | |
saltpoint | Feb 2016 | #30 | |
Live and Learn | Feb 2016 | #31 | |
Karma13612 | Feb 2016 | #33 | |
whatchamacallit | Feb 2016 | #38 | |
LWolf | Feb 2016 | #35 | |
Vote2016 | Feb 2016 | #37 | |
Karma13612 | Feb 2016 | #44 | |
MrMickeysMom | Feb 2016 | #40 | |
JudyM | Feb 2016 | #41 | |
whatchamacallit | Feb 2016 | #43 |
Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 02:10 PM
bkkyosemite (5,792 posts)
1. Now Elizabeth Warren next time around would be fantastic.
Response to bkkyosemite (Reply #1)
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 02:24 PM
reformist2 (9,841 posts)
9. I want Elizabeth Warren to be president next, right after Bernie!
Response to bkkyosemite (Reply #1)
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 10:06 AM
CTyankee (62,659 posts)
32. I sorrowfully had to give up my yearing for Warren (I had just read her book and was
completely enthralled by her). But the sad truth is that she is not running and wn't run for president.
We need to get over it here on this board. Look to other up and coming women candidates. They will need our support, in all ways, including emotional... |
Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 02:12 PM
DebbieCDC (2,539 posts)
2. My thought exactly
Woman president yes
This woman no |
Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 02:15 PM
jham123 (278 posts)
3. Genitalia/skin color
"Qualified Candidate" does not include genitalia nor does it need a skin color descriptor.
Misandry is just as reprehensible and Misogyny |
Response to jham123 (Reply #3)
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 02:19 PM
deutsey (20,166 posts)
4. Exactly...when I hear electing a woman to be president is the truly revolutionary thing
I immediately think of Margaret Thatcher.
Am I saying Hillary is Thatcher? No. I'm just pointing out how lame that talking point about "electing woman=revolution" is. |
Response to deutsey (Reply #4)
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 02:34 PM
kath (10,565 posts)
12. Same - when I hear it, I think "Just ask the working people of Britain how THEIR first female head
of state worked out for them, you morons".
ISSUES matter, not genitals. |
Response to deutsey (Reply #4)
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 02:38 PM
Fawke Em (11,366 posts)
14. To be honest, I do think of Thatcher when I think of Hillary.
They're very similar in a lot of ways, good and bad.
I've called Hillary, "Thatcher in a pantsuit" this entire election cycle. |
Response to Fawke Em (Reply #14)
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 02:42 PM
deutsey (20,166 posts)
16. I can understand, honestly, but I'm not there yet, myself
Response to jham123 (Reply #3)
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:21 AM
Wig Master (95 posts)
25. Misandry isnt real
N/T
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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 02:20 PM
stillwaiting (3,795 posts)
5. I do too. Very much. But, not Hillary.
I can't wait to vote for a strong progressive woman that I trust.
Hopefully it will happen one day soon. |
Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 02:22 PM
sabrina 1 (62,325 posts)
6. There are lots of women I would support for POTUS, Nina Turner, Elizabeth Warren, Barbara Lee
just to name a few. Why has the Dem Party Leadership never considered any other woman for this job especially after Hillary lost last time?
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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #6)
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 03:33 PM
whatchamacallit (15,558 posts)
22. Hillary is perfect because
1. she'll dutifully perpetuate the neoliberal regime
2. being the first female president she'll represent "progressive change" needed to fool and mollify liberals. |
Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #22)
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:25 AM
Wig Master (95 posts)
28. 3. She looks like a yakuza boss
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Response to Wig Master (Reply #28)
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 11:23 AM
whatchamacallit (15,558 posts)
36. Lol
yup.
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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #6)
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:29 AM
merrily (45,251 posts)
29. Your post almost answers your question in my view:she lost last time.
But not by a lot, especially if you give her the two states the DNC took from her
Remember that hush hush meeting she and Obama had after the primaries ended? Supposedly, the deal they made was that he'd help her pay off her campaign debts. Also, I was a significant donor to the Obama campaign. I got ONE email asking me to help Hillary out and, IIRC, he did ONE fundraiser for her. Are you kidding? The last thing the Clintons have trouble doing is raising money. I think those were strictly for public consumption. Thanks in part to her comment about McCain and the 3 am phone call and McCain's pick of Palin, PUMAs were threatening to go Republican. A deal was made in order to make sure the Clintons gave their full-throated support to Obama and for her not to challenge him in 2012. Part of the deal was Secretary of State or Vice President and as clear a field in 2016 as anyone could give her. That's my theory, anyway. |
Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 02:23 PM
earthside (6,960 posts)
7. I'll celebrate the day a genuinely progressive woman is elected President of the U.S.
Especially if it doesn't come with an asterisk: * Preceded in the office by her husband.
If Elizabeth Warren had run, I'd be on board. The day will come; it's not going to be in 2016. But the day will come. |
Response to earthside (Reply #7)
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 02:37 PM
kath (10,565 posts)
13. Yes, "*preceded in the office by her husband" significantly diminishes the achievement IMO.
Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 02:24 PM
CharlotteVale (2,717 posts)
8. Me too - Elizabeth Warren.
Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 02:27 PM
Erich Bloodaxe BSN (14,733 posts)
10. I don't know that Bernie will go two terms. Warren would be a good replacement
when he does step aside, whether after one term or two.
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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 02:29 PM
TheProgressive (1,656 posts)
11. I would vote for Elizabeth Warren in a heartbeat...
Response to TheProgressive (Reply #11)
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 03:54 PM
whatchamacallit (15,558 posts)
23. Me too
I was crestfallen when she declined to run. Thankfully Bernie to the rescue!
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Response to TheProgressive (Reply #11)
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 10:38 AM
Karma13612 (4,443 posts)
34. same here! eom
Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 02:40 PM
AgingAmerican (12,958 posts)
15. So the country is 'poisoned' by testosterone?
And if I wrongly suggested the Democratic party was poisoned by estrogen (DWS/Hillary), you would alert on it, right?
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Response to AgingAmerican (Reply #15)
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 02:56 PM
Ferd Berfel (3,687 posts)
18. Great Point !
I wanted to get that in before they flame you because you hurt someones feelings
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Response to Ferd Berfel (Reply #18)
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 03:08 PM
whatchamacallit (15,558 posts)
21. It didn't hurt my feelings
Mine isn't a message of man hate, I'm a guy. My question is, is it important to have a female president to fill an empty slot on a scorecard, or because of the unique value a woman's perspective can bring to governance? Sorry if that offends.
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Response to AgingAmerican (Reply #15)
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 03:04 PM
Donkees (28,820 posts)
19. "Dopamine: Politics, Religion, and Power" (see 22 second mark)
Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 02:54 PM
Ferd Berfel (3,687 posts)
17. I want a (non-practicing) Jewish President
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Response to Ferd Berfel (Reply #17)
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 03:07 PM
Donkees (28,820 posts)
20. ...from Brooklyn! :)
Response to Donkees (Reply #20)
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 11:33 AM
Mnpaul (3,655 posts)
39. but he didn't stay in Brooklyn
I actually heard a Hillary supporter on the radio criticize him for not staying in NY.
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Response to Mnpaul (Reply #39)
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 11:47 AM
Donkees (28,820 posts)
42. I know :) ...but some Brooklyn stayed with him, and I am in a nostalgic mood
Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:16 AM
eridani (51,907 posts)
24. Elizabeth Warren was my first choice
Since she decided not to run, I'll go with the candidate closest to her on ending financial shenanigans.
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Response to eridani (Reply #24)
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:22 AM
merrily (45,251 posts)
27. Sanders was my first choice, but I never thought he would run.
Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:22 AM
merrily (45,251 posts)
26. I am yearning for a woman President.
Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:30 AM
saltpoint (50,986 posts)
30. Elizabeth Warren works for me. eom
Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:37 AM
Live and Learn (12,769 posts)
31. No real feminist would disagree. nt
Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 10:33 AM
Karma13612 (4,443 posts)
33. Yea, count me in the group who wanted Elizabeth Warren to run.
It would have been epic.
Bernie Sanders is incredible and I am supporting him 100%, without reservation, not looking back. If Elizabeth accepts a position in Bernie's WH, I will be thrilled. If she runs in 2020 or 2024, she has my support. Hillary turned me off in 2008 once I actually researched her and Obama. I was initially guilty of jumping on the HRC bandwagon since I also thought it would be great for America to elect their first female president. But substance and positions and values matter and Hillary's values and positions on matters of importance do NOT match mine. I am a 62 year old white female, college educated, struggling in our economy. Wall street messed up what little pension I had in the crash. Bernie understands my struggles. He speaks to the very heart of all my sleepless nights. Hillary is only going to make my insomnia worse. She has no intention of even pushing the envelope for the 99%. Forget about trying to bust it wide open. We need a revolution and Bernie is just the one to do it. He has been a revolutionary all his life. I was alerted the other night during the MSNBC debate for calling Hillary something. I was saved (thank you all!!), and have learned my lesson here at DU. But, in my heart, with all that Hillary has shown me, and her behavior before and during this campaign, I still feel very strongly about using that word. Just not here. |
Response to Karma13612 (Reply #33)
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 11:28 AM
whatchamacallit (15,558 posts)
38. Your sentiment is echoed across the country
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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 10:39 AM
LWolf (46,179 posts)
35. Well said. nt
Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 11:28 AM
Vote2016 (1,198 posts)
37. Me too! But not just any woman president. I want this one:
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Response to Vote2016 (Reply #37)
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 11:52 AM
Karma13612 (4,443 posts)
44. A beautiful sight, this.
Would love that to be on a t-shirt, in support of a presidential run.
And under this picture, say "I want this one" |
Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 11:36 AM
MrMickeysMom (20,453 posts)
40. I think you won't get flamed...
much...
I want a good president, and since I have an equal respect for any boss I've ever had to lead me, I want a competent leader. It just so happens that over the last few years, I've had exactly ONE good woman leader, who in an exhaustive effort to help improve departmental services, LEFT. The persons on the other end who drove this excellent away were 3:1 women who I do NOT respect as my superiors. Too bad I can't fire them, but I'm their subordinate worker. OTOH, I can elect someone who is competent as my president. If it's someone I do not think is the best, I will not support them. Gender knows no competency boundaries. |
Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 11:38 AM
JudyM (27,825 posts)
41. Women also have testosterone.
It's manufactured by ovaries and adrenals.
Women have this in varying levels and the level fluctuates in each woman. Some women also take testosterone for various purposes. |
Response to JudyM (Reply #41)
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 11:48 AM
whatchamacallit (15,558 posts)
43. I know
several people have taken issue with my use of 'testosterone poisoning'. I don't mean to disparage a vital hormone, or men for that matter, I'm simply suggesting we have a president who does it her way, not his way.
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