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elljay

(1,178 posts)
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:50 PM Feb 2016

Chris Hayes thinks the Democratic Party has been moving to the left for the past 30 years

while the Republicans have moved to the right. Have I been in a coma for three decades? Bill Clinton, Obama as well as most of our other Democratic politicians are nowhere near as progressive as McCarthy or McGovern. Indeed, as far as I can tell, we've drifted so far to the right that it is hard to distinguish between today's Dems and Eisenhower or even Nixon. That's why so many of us older people are thrilled with Bernie. We've waited DECADES for our voices to be heard!

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Chris Hayes thinks the Democratic Party has been moving to the left for the past 30 years (Original Post) elljay Feb 2016 OP
LOL Kalidurga Feb 2016 #1
Chris Hayes has been moving to the right since Comcast bought him. nt valerief Feb 2016 #2
You're right, it just looks that way to him tularetom Feb 2016 #3
My brain surgery UglyGreed Feb 2016 #4
Chris is talking about the Democratic VOTERS (remember them?) .. not the hacks. nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #5
Oh! That's different. n/t Wilms Feb 2016 #6
Voting for whom? elljay Feb 2016 #9
When did Chris Hayes become a comedian? n/t cui bono Feb 2016 #7
Not even remotely true, at least not economically Dragonfli Feb 2016 #8

elljay

(1,178 posts)
9. Voting for whom?
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:29 PM
Feb 2016

Who selects the candidates they vote for? Maybe this is why so few democrats bother to show up for elections.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
8. Not even remotely true, at least not economically
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:10 PM
Feb 2016
[font size="4"]New Democrats, The DLC and the Third Way[/font]


[font size ="1"]President Bill Clinton with Al From, president of the Democratic Leadership Council, at a conference in 2000.[/font size]

New Democrats, in the politics of the United States, are an ideologically centrist faction within the Democratic Party that emerged after the victory of Republican George H. W. Bush in the 1988 presidential election. They are identified with centrist social/cultural/pluralist positions and neoliberal fiscal values. They are represented by organizations such as the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC), the New Democrat Network, and the Senate and House New Democrat Coalitions

After the landslide electoral losses to Ronald Reagan in the 1980s, a group of prominent Democrats began to believe their party was in need of a radical shift in economic policy and ideas of governance. The Democratic Leadership Council (DLC) was founded in 1985 by Al From and a group of like-minded politicians and strategists. They advocated a political "Third Way" as a method to achieve the electoral successes of Reaganism by adopting similar economic policies (Reagan Democrats and Moderate Republicans would provide burgeoning new constituencies after adding these new economic policies and politicians to our tent they contended) While hoping to retain, woman, minorities and other social issues allies with long ties to the party. Such would be their new Democratic coalition forged between fiscal right and social left under the "New" Democratic banner. The DLC disbanded in 2011 during an apparent re-branding of the New Democrat movement when money ties to the Koch bros. and Koch representatives placed on the DLC's board embarrassingly became common knowledge among the Democratic left. The DLC is survived by the Third Way, The New Democrat Coalition, and Al From's Progressive Policy Institute among other corporate funded groups that continue to sell their Economic-Right/Social-Left brand of "Centrism" to America.



The term Third Way refers to various political positions which try to reconcile right-wing and left-wing politics by advocating a varying synthesis of right-wing economic and left-wing social policies.

Third Way was created as a serious re-evaluation of political policies within various center-right progressive movements in response to international doubt regarding the economic viability of the state; economic interventionist policies that had previously been popularized by Keynesianism and contrasted with the corresponding rise of popularity for neo liberalism and the New Right. In a sense, 80s Moderate Republicans are almost identical to "Third Way" Democrats.

I strongly believe it's time for a serious re-evaluation of political policies within various center-left progressive movements in response to international doubt regarding the economic viability of the neoliberal corporate policies previously popularized by Reagan and Thatcher! For thirty years we have all but abandoned liberal solutions to economic problems, chasing instead the snake oil of supply side economics, austerity and neoliberal trade policy. These right wing policies have failed miserably, and rather than learn from the New Democrats failed experiments, the center-right faction of the democratic party has chosen instead to double down on failure with more free trade and austerity measures (to include cuts to Social Security).

In the face of a new gilded age of extreme wealth contrasted by an exponentially growing rate of poverty,  a rapidly shrinking middle class and the emergence of an elite class of  bankers, politicians and other predatory behemoths that are held firmly above the law and enabled to steal the remaining crumbs of wealth held by the masses without repercussion, it is not only time to return to Democratic principles of old that created the strongest most prosperous middle class in our history, it is time to reverse the damage done by the right thinking "New" Democrats and their failed policies with a new populism based on the needs of the people over the elite.

We do not need a "Fourth Way" to accomplish this, all we need is a return to the fundamentals of Keynesianism, a strong commitment to labor, increased spending on social programs (rather than cuts), progressive taxation, and an end to the cancer of privatization that would reduce the commons and the basic needs of the populace (such as health care and drinking water etc.) into the cash cows of profiteers of human suffering

Time to dump the "Third Way" for the unquestionably effective "Democratic way" made successful by the New Deal, The Great Society, and civil liberties. Our party can not serve two masters, the choice is clear, they must serve the financial elite, or the economically struggling populace

My choice has already been made.
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