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Thu Feb 4, 2016, 07:32 PM

Hillary denounced MoveOn at a private fundraiser but told a very different story in public.

Maybe this is why her high dollar donor class feels so comfortable when she employs populist rhetoric when speaking to the rest of us. It's just rhetoric.

Here's what she said about MoveOn at a private fundraiser in 2008 (that wasn't quite as private as she might have hoped).

I don't agree with them. They know I don't agree with them. So they flood into these caucuses and dominate them and really intimidate people who show up there to support me.

Here's what she told MoveOn during a public conference call.

You've been refusing to back down when any of us who are in political leadership are not living up the standards that we should set for ourselves. I think you have helped to change the face of American politics for the better - both online and in the corridors of power.

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Reply Hillary denounced MoveOn at a private fundraiser but told a very different story in public. (Original post)
pa28 Feb 2016 OP
cali Feb 2016 #1
Skwmom Feb 2016 #6
H2O Man Feb 2016 #2
hedda_foil Feb 2016 #16
99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #3
rhett o rick Feb 2016 #4
farleftlib Feb 2016 #7
rhett o rick Feb 2016 #10
haikugal Feb 2016 #53
bunnies Feb 2016 #54
rhett o rick Feb 2016 #56
tularetom Feb 2016 #52
Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #5
angrychair Feb 2016 #8
kath Feb 2016 #9
BuelahWitch Feb 2016 #11
MissDeeds Feb 2016 #18
kath Feb 2016 #22
DhhD Feb 2016 #35
CharlotteVale Feb 2016 #37
AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #12
Divernan Feb 2016 #15
AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #17
bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #13
left-of-center2012 Feb 2016 #14
ChairmanAgnostic Feb 2016 #23
kath Feb 2016 #38
jalan48 Feb 2016 #19
Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #31
Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #43
nc4bo Feb 2016 #20
pa28 Feb 2016 #24
nc4bo Feb 2016 #27
pa28 Feb 2016 #45
UglyGreed Feb 2016 #21
silvershadow Feb 2016 #25
AzDar Feb 2016 #26
Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #28
daleanime Feb 2016 #40
valerief Feb 2016 #29
Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #33
valerief Feb 2016 #39
LiberalElite Feb 2016 #30
cantbeserious Feb 2016 #32
Stardust Feb 2016 #34
Indepatriot Feb 2016 #36
zazen Feb 2016 #41
Feeling the Bern Feb 2016 #42
marmar Feb 2016 #44
nc4bo Feb 2016 #46
bigwillq Feb 2016 #47
VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #48
Autumn Colors Feb 2016 #49
stillwaiting Feb 2016 #50
2pooped2pop Feb 2016 #51
kath Feb 2016 #55
last1standing Feb 2016 #57
Odin2005 Feb 2016 #58
merbex Feb 2016 #59
nc4bo Feb 2016 #60
Live and Learn Feb 2016 #61
John Poet Feb 2016 #62
KoKo Feb 2016 #63
nc4bo Feb 2016 #64
nc4bo Feb 2016 #65
FlatBaroque Feb 2016 #66

Response to pa28 (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 07:33 PM

1. Phony

 

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Response to cali (Reply #1)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 07:41 PM

6. +1,000,000

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Response to pa28 (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 07:35 PM

2. I have been

a member/supporter of MoveOn for years, as have many of my family and friends.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #2)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 08:07 PM

16. I've been a member of MoveOn since their first "Censure and Move On" email petition to Congress 1998

What a long time ago that was.

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Response to pa28 (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 07:35 PM

3. Surprise, surprise! n/t

 

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Response to pa28 (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 07:36 PM

4. A bit ironic as Moveon was formed to support her husband. But they are progressive and

 

in spite of what she claims, she does not like progressives.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #4)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 07:42 PM

7. So ironic

 

And no she surely doesn't like Moveon or progressives or activists. You can really hear it in her voice when she's talking about us.

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Response to farleftlib (Reply #7)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 07:47 PM

10. No one in the conservative Wing likes us. Not her, not Rahmbo, not DWS, not Boxer,

 

not Obama, not Goldman-Sachs, not even Biden. We are not part of the cool kids, the in-crowd.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #10)

Fri Feb 5, 2016, 09:40 AM

53. This right here^^^^

It's reality. We are only good for them when we can help them otherwise we can't even get lip service...they hate us.

Fuck them.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #10)

Fri Feb 5, 2016, 11:00 AM

54. I think its more than that.

 

I think they straight up despise us. Do you think for one moment that any of Hillarys high dollar talks to the financial industry don't include a healthy dose of left-bashing? Id bet anything its one of the reasons she wont release the text of a single speech.

But they all want our votes though, dont they.

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Response to bunnies (Reply #54)

Fri Feb 5, 2016, 01:11 PM

56. I don't think they want our votes. The hubris is such that they'd rather lose and look for a

 

scapegoat (Nader) than reach out to lowly progressives.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 5, 2016, 08:47 AM

52. While liberals were busting their ass to defend her idiot husband

From the consequences of of his own lies, he was giving the farm away to corporations and the 1%.

And they both have made very clear that support from groups like MoveOn did not mean jack shit to them. From Bill's obsequious sucking up to the Bush family to her sneering remarks about MoveOn, it's plain that they regard progressive Democrats as useful idiots who will support them no matter how often they kick us in the nads.

Because what choice do we have, right? We don't want Sarah Palin a heartbeat away from the presidency.

Bernie Sanders has given us an opportunity to call their bluff.

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Response to pa28 (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 07:40 PM

5. Kicked and recommended for being consistently inconsistent.

Thanks for the thread, pa.

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Response to pa28 (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 07:44 PM

8. As a MoveOn member

I take exception. Guess that's why we voted to endorse Sanders

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Response to pa28 (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 07:46 PM

9. such a phony, shape-shifting liar.

Gah. Can. Not. Stand. Her.

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Response to kath (Reply #9)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 07:50 PM

11. The main reason I don't support her

Queen of Camp Weathervane.

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Response to kath (Reply #9)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 08:14 PM

18. Yep

 

I can't stand her, and I'm a woman. I mean I really, really can't stand her.



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Response to MissDeeds (Reply #18)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 08:21 PM

22. Boomer woman here. My two Boomer sisters can't stand her either.

Haven't spoke with the sister who is on the cusp between boomers and GenX since October. at that point she was one of those "I like Bernie but do you really think he can win types". I'm hoping she will move into Bernie's camp, if she hasn't already.

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Response to kath (Reply #9)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:09 PM

35. Shape-shifting; I used that word to describe her flip-flop Health Care Plan, last evening.

It needs to stick as it also refers to transfer of her shifting progressive talking points to Republican metal.

http://scienceandfilm.org/articles/2571/liquid-metal-terminator-genisys

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Response to kath (Reply #9)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:11 PM

37. +1 x A gazillion

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Response to pa28 (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 07:51 PM

12. She will sink/float on her inconsistencies which are hers alone & have nothing to do with Bernie.

 

Just standing next to Bernie, a man of unimpeachable integrity and consistency, makes her look bad. When the MSM puts a microphone in his face and asks about her inconsistencies, he answers in a straightforward manner. But make no mistake, it is her inconsistencies that are causing her grief. That's entirely her fault and her problem.

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Response to AtomicKitten (Reply #12)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 08:06 PM

15. Think you mean unimpeachable

un·im·peach·a·ble
/ˌənəmˈpēCHəb(əl/

adjective

1. not able to be doubted, questioned, or criticized; entirely trustworthy "an unimpeachable witness" synonyms: trustworthy, reliable, dependable, above suspicion, irreproachable, ... more

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Response to Divernan (Reply #15)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 08:13 PM

17. yes I will correct thanks

 

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Response to pa28 (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 08:02 PM

13. Fork tongue

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Response to pa28 (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 08:04 PM

14. Hillary whines a lot

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #14)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 08:28 PM

23. Her hillarians here are far worse. If possible.

Frankly, those sons and daughters of B>>>>>> are here to destroy any effort to support Bernie.
And if you notice the gnu members, there are a ton of assholes coming here solely for that purpose.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #14)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:13 PM

38. Oh, yeah. Looooooves playing the victim.



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Response to pa28 (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 08:14 PM

19. Hillary's down to the "Republicans are worse" argument.

That's about all she has going these days.

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Response to jalan48 (Reply #19)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:06 PM

31. And even that argument is dubious

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Response to Art_from_Ark (Reply #31)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:55 PM

43. Each of her "No"s would actually be 3 minutes of talking that would equal a "No".

 

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Response to pa28 (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 08:15 PM

20. LMAO - Now I get an idea (and so should the rest of us) of what she says at $200k-$600k speeches

and fundraisers.

Not fit for public consumption I have NO doubt whatsoever.

She's just like Mittens in that regard.

Wow.

Priceless.

Thanks.

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Response to nc4bo (Reply #20)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 08:28 PM

24. I've suspected for quite a while the high dollar fundraiser Hillary is the real Hillary.

I'd like to read the transcripts of the private speeches she gave to Goldman and other financial institutions but she won't release them for some reason. Too bad.

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Response to pa28 (Reply #24)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 08:51 PM

27. I keep hoping somebody, somewhere will get the gonads to release either audio

or transcripts.

Free the beasts!!

To me, these comments by Hillary Clinton (that I've never seen before) is her Mitt Romney 47% moment. That Romney release showed us what he kept hidden during his campaign in a way that only listening and watching for oneself can do.

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Response to nc4bo (Reply #27)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 11:37 PM

45. Glad to see this issue turn up at the debate tonight.

She seems to share a really easy rapport with high dollar contributors she seems to lack with the great unwashed. Let's have her release those transcripts and see if we're both getting the same story.

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Response to pa28 (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 08:16 PM

21. Looks like Hillary threw

Moveon under that bus many here seems to be talking about.

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Response to pa28 (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 08:31 PM

25. Oh good. I just joined MoveOn tonight, about an hour ago. nt

 

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Response to pa28 (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 08:45 PM

26. Shady.

 

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Response to pa28 (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 08:53 PM

28. I am not surprised at all

 

Love to see some videos of those quarter million dollar speeches.

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #28)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:36 PM

40. +1

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Response to pa28 (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 08:57 PM

29. IIRC, Moveon was started after the kerfuffle over Bill and Monica. They wanted to "move on"

from all that business and get to the issues that affect citizens.

Correct me, if I'm wrong.

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Response to valerief (Reply #29)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:07 PM

33. You are correct.

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Response to Art_from_Ark (Reply #33)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:22 PM

39. Thanks. So you'd think Hillary would love Moveon. Oh, well. nt

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Response to pa28 (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:05 PM

30. K&R nt

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Response to pa28 (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:06 PM

32. HRC - Forked Tongue - Strident - Overbearing - Visionless - The Perfect Spokesperson For The 1%

eom

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Response to pa28 (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:07 PM

34. K&R

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Response to pa28 (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:10 PM

36. Hillary Clinton? Talking out of both sides of her mouth?!!!!! I'm SHOCKED......

 

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Response to pa28 (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:40 PM

41. k&r n/t

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Response to pa28 (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:54 PM

42. She is a shape shifting weathervane. Will say anything to achieve the power she thinks

 

she deserves in her own mind. The days of this are over with youtube, internet and what not. The days of two faced lying are over with smartphones that can record everything.

I believe she is beginning to jump the shark.

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Response to pa28 (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:24 PM

44. Disingenuousness is her middle name.

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Response to pa28 (Original post)

Fri Feb 5, 2016, 07:46 AM

46. Morning kick.nt

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Response to pa28 (Original post)

Fri Feb 5, 2016, 07:47 AM

47. K and R (nt)

 

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Response to pa28 (Original post)

Fri Feb 5, 2016, 07:48 AM

48. K/R.

Expose this corporatist chameleon for what she really is.

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Response to pa28 (Original post)

Fri Feb 5, 2016, 07:55 AM

49. K&R (nt)

 

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Response to pa28 (Original post)

Fri Feb 5, 2016, 07:56 AM

50. She has proven that this is how she feels towards us so many times.

Despite what she might say in campaign speeches or debates.

I truly hope she loses this primary.

There is so much at stake here, and she will turn her back forcefully on us (she already has on several key areas) as soon as she gets the nomination locked up.

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Response to pa28 (Original post)

Fri Feb 5, 2016, 08:06 AM

51. Hell, she changes her story walking from the living room to the kitchen.

 

So this is no surprise.

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Response to pa28 (Original post)

Fri Feb 5, 2016, 11:41 AM

55. Kick! To expose the shape-shifting and lying.

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Response to pa28 (Original post)

Fri Feb 5, 2016, 07:29 PM

57. She's a liar, what'd you expect.

And it makes no difference to many of her supporters because they don't care if she lies. They don't care if she supports war on innocent nations. They don't care if she spouts racist memes or uses sexism as a crutch.

All that matters for some is making sure a woman gets into the White House because "IT'S HER TURN!!!!"

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Response to pa28 (Original post)

Fri Feb 5, 2016, 08:53 PM

58. SHE'S A PHONEY!!!

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Response to pa28 (Original post)

Fri Feb 5, 2016, 09:40 PM

59. I have a dream.....

That someone from the NH in the next few days gets up and asks her a question and has this video ready to play on their phone.

If we never get the text from her speeches, or a video or audio from those high dollar Davos like events THIS is the next best thing.

See what she would say. Or even a reaction - preface it with how Moveon was originated - and she speaks ill of it?

Some could make the argument that Moveon allowed she and her husband to even GET those speaking fees.......last impeached President, or almost impeached, Nixon, he certainly wasn't being invited or getting those fees. He wrote a book and iirc he sat down with David Frost.

The Clintons have made corporate speech making a cottage industry.

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Response to pa28 (Original post)

Sat Feb 6, 2016, 07:53 AM

60. Kickity-kick. nt

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Response to pa28 (Original post)

Sat Feb 6, 2016, 08:00 AM

61. Can a leopard change it's spots? Daily, if your last name is Clinton it seems. nt

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Response to pa28 (Original post)

Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:28 AM

62. Those liberal activist moveon dirty hippy types

 

who want to keep us out of wars and stuff like that...


This illustrates why it's hard to put any stock out of anything that comes out of her mouth.

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Response to pa28 (Original post)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 11:54 AM

63. Accuses "Move On" of Flooding Caucuses, dominating and intimidating her supporters...

From this statement it sounds like she might be the source of the disinfo about the "Bernie Bros" that she claims are bothering/harassing her supporters online :


I don't agree with them. They know I don't agree with them. So they flood into these caucuses and dominate them and really intimidate people who show up there to support me.


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Response to pa28 (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 06:57 AM

64. The 2 facedness of Hillary Clinton.

It makes me wonder what she's said to her stans at hundreds of other speeches and fundraisers.

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Response to pa28 (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 06:28 AM

65. Where are those transcripts? nt

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Response to pa28 (Original post)

Fri Feb 26, 2016, 11:12 PM

66. I wanted to know what Gravel had to say /

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