2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum"Hillary Clinton's Internet Supporters Desperately Want This Campaign to be about Sexism"
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The strategy of Clinton supporters had to shift, and the solution was obvious: Avoid policy, and make the campaign about sexism. It wouldnt be a stretch. In fact, they simply had to reprise the same tactics from 2008, when gender bias was one of the most reliable arrows in Clintons quiver, and Obama supporters fretted about losing the female vote because of perceived abuse toward Clintons backers. Its the same today, and it started with the Bernie Bro phenomenona fabricated demographic supposedly chock-full of misogynistic dudes whose support for Bernie is less about policy and more about keeping a hated woman out of office.
The entire concept of a vast sexist conspiracy operating from the political left is ridiculous, and has been effectively debunked by Glenn Greenwald and Sam Kriss at Vice, but its worth looking at a specific example of its origins to examine the absurd, dishonest way this stuff gathers steam. Ill take you step by step, with this post as a guide.
1. Emily Nussbaum, of The New Yorker, tweets that shes been called a psycho after expressing support for Hillary Clinton. Man, she writes, the Feel the Bern crew is such a drag.
Well stop here for a moment to point out that the person who called her a psycho was a Republican congressman named Steven Smith who identifies as a Tea Party advocate and who, we can safely guess, is not feeling the Bern.
2. Outlets like Mashable and the BBC quote Nussbaum, without bothering to check who delivered the insult.
3. The New Republic cites Mashable.
4. Others cite The New Republic.
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http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/02/hillary-clintons-internet-supporters-desperately-w.html
ErisDiscordia
(443 posts)except the "entitlement" of Hillary Rodham Clinton over all others.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)There is A LOT of sexism tossed at her. But its the internet, so even if they have pro-Bernie stuff on their page it doesnt necessarily mean they arent just a rightwing Operation Chaos troll. But there is certainly no shortage of sexism being thrown at her from all sides.
TTUBatfan2008
(3,623 posts)but I don't support empty feminism either from people like Madeleine Albright who say there is a special place in hell for women who don't vote for Hillary. Madeleine Albright and the Clintons (and Obama and Bush and Reagan and on and on) are part of the War Machine that has led to the deaths of MILLIONS of innocent women around the world, all in the name of America's corporations getting richer from the war racket.
frylock
(34,825 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)am a woman, telling me that having a woman in the White House is more important, evidently, than issues or records.
Blecch. Throwing down a whole pack of gender cards, and then accusing everybody else of playing them.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Right, because we never criticize men who do that.
CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)What is more sexist than that? They deny the very existence of us female Bernie supporters.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)I'm pretty sure that the over-all reaching problem of being female while running for office is one existing everywhere, but that has more to do with what kind of society we are producing.
When good people run, it's the issues, not the gender that is part of the deal. Gender issues start going away when society's role comes front and center. Everything else is just fodder for yellow journalism.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)oh never mind
kath
(10,565 posts)Sexism exists, its a real problem, and it needs to be addressed. But it should go without saying that when sexism is used cynically, to deflect valid political criticism, it risks becoming an empty phrase. Why do fewer people than ever before care that Bernie Sanders identifies as a Democratic Socialist? Why, when the GOP whips out the words redistribution of wealth to give rich people a pass on higher taxes, does it resonate less than ever before with an angry population? Why are these reliable bogeymen failing?
Because when you fall back on a deceptive turn of phrase, even an effective one, people will eventually figure out exactly how youre lying. Theyll understand your true purpose, which is to fog the playing field and stifle discourse. Democrats should know better than that. Democrats should be better than that. And if one of our candidates cant win on the issues, maybe that candidate shouldnt win at all.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Berniebro berniebro berniebro berniebro berniebro berniebro berniebro berniebro obamabro
http://www.salon.com/2008/04/14/obama_supporters/
...whoops
reformist2
(9,841 posts)You don't win elections by playing the victim. You win by ignoring the naysayers and advancing a real vision of the future.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)joshcryer
(62,269 posts)I'm just saying. It's unnecessary to go there and join the MRA brigades that Reddit espouses.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)They sure could drink!
enigmatic
(15,021 posts)Such a great band.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)One cannot accuse an entire campaign nor the candidate for what a handful of loudmouth assholes says or does unless of course, those assholes are doing this on behalf of the candidate or candidate's advisors and with the candidate's knowledge.
This is what bugs me about HRC and David Brock. They work together, it is a known fact. So I find myself being extra suspicious of any nastiness coming from HRC's direction.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)kath
(10,565 posts)kath
(10,565 posts)And it's bullshit.
Great way to dodge talking about issues, though.
avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)Well put and spot on.
kath
(10,565 posts)kath
(10,565 posts)Enough is enough is enough
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Third Way's time has come and gone. Only those still living in a 20th century bubble still think Clinton would make a good president. And that group, sadly, still includes Clinton herself.
hollysmom
(5,946 posts)I have been trashed, and had to ignore people of, of all places, facebook. I get crap on various news/blogs comments. Been getting that crap all my life, and it only got worse once people could hide their faces on the internet.
If you are a woman, you are going to get sexism on the internet, it is a given and not specific to Sanders supporters.
Buzz cook
(2,471 posts)I tend to think of who would be the better administrator. That would clearly be Clinton. Who is smarter and faster on their feet intellectually, that would be Clinton as well.
Bernie supporters are all about ideological purity. That's all they got.