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Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:31 PM

BREAKING: Hillary Clinton Put Spies’ Lives at Risk

It's not the 'nothing-burger' Clinton allies have tried to portray -- lives are literally at stake
By John R. Schindler • 02/01/16 1:00pm

http://observer.com/2016/02/breaking-hillary-clinton-put-spies-lives-at-risk/


For months you’ve read about EmailGate in this column. I’ve elaborated how Hillary Clinton, the apparent Democratic frontrunner for President this year, put large amounts of classified information at grave risk through slipshod security practices by herself and her staff. Now that scandal has taken a significant turn for the more ominous.

Last Friday afternoon the State Department’s latest court-mandated release of Hillary Clinton’s emails from when she was Secretary of State caused a new political firestorm. While many more emails were released by Foggy Bottom, some with redactions due to classified materials they contained, twenty-two emails totaling thirty-seven pages of text were withheld entirely at the request of the Intelligence Community. Those twenty-two emails, deemed “unclassified” by Ms. Clinton and her staff, were judged to be Top Secret in reality.

Since Top Secret is the U.S. Government’s highest official classification level, this revelation exploded months of denials from the Clinton presidential campaign that Hillary had done no wrong. The Federal government defines Top Secret materials as “information, the unauthorized disclosure of which reasonably could be expected to cause exceptionally grave damage to the national security.” The disclosure of Top Secret information is a serious criminal matter that normal Americans face prosecution and substantial jail time for perpetrating.



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And what about those 30,000 emails that Ms. Clinton had deleted? “I’ll spend the rest of my career trying to figure out what classified information was in those,” stated an exasperated Pentagon counterintelligence official, “everybody is mad as hell right now.” “The worst part,” the counterspy added,” is that Moscow and Beijing have that information but the Intelligence Community maybe never will.”



(John Schindler is a security expert and former National Security Agency analyst and counterintelligence officer. A specialist in espionage and terrorism, he's also been a Navy officer and a War College professor. )

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Reply BREAKING: Hillary Clinton Put Spies’ Lives at Risk (Original post)
ejbr Feb 2016 OP
Agschmid Feb 2016 #1
bigwillq Feb 2016 #2
ejbr Feb 2016 #3
randys1 Feb 2016 #4
riversedge Feb 2016 #23
1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #7
GusBob Feb 2016 #9
VMA131Marine Feb 2016 #5
ejbr Feb 2016 #11
VMA131Marine Feb 2016 #15
ejbr Feb 2016 #22
emulatorloo Feb 2016 #31
ejbr Feb 2016 #39
NCTraveler Feb 2016 #6
NurseJackie Feb 2016 #10
NCTraveler Feb 2016 #17
NurseJackie Feb 2016 #8
Autumn Feb 2016 #21
salib Feb 2016 #12
ejbr Feb 2016 #27
salib Feb 2016 #30
msongs Feb 2016 #33
salib Feb 2016 #35
ejbr Feb 2016 #38
ejbr Feb 2016 #36
Maedhros Feb 2016 #40
wyldwolf Feb 2016 #13
Mike Nelson Feb 2016 #14
riversedge Feb 2016 #19
Autumn Feb 2016 #24
zappaman Feb 2016 #16
KingFlorez Feb 2016 #18
alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #20
NurseJackie Feb 2016 #26
ejbr Feb 2016 #28
DanTex Feb 2016 #25
emulatorloo Feb 2016 #29
blm Feb 2016 #32
senz Feb 2016 #34
mcar Feb 2016 #37
geek tragedy Feb 2016 #41
Autumn Feb 2016 #42
840high Feb 2016 #43
Festivito Feb 2016 #44
ejbr Feb 2016 #45

Response to ejbr (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:32 PM

1. What do you know about your source?

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:33 PM

2. 22,222 posts

 

That's cool.

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:34 PM

3. Good question.

I just put the brief bio available on the site above or:



John Schindler is a security expert and former National Security Agency analyst and counterintelligence officer. A specialist in espionage and terrorism, he's also been a Navy officer and a War College professor.

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:36 PM

4. Remember John Schindler, the conservative talking head,

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Response to randys1 (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:46 PM

23. uga. THAT john schindle. I did not did the link. Thanks.

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:37 PM

7. That the source has written several columns making judgments on the illegality of HRC's actions ...

 

despite those judgments conflicting with National Security experts judgment on the topic; but, that is enough to post to DU, and get plenty of recs.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:39 PM

9. But....ITS BREAKING! Omg!!

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Response to ejbr (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:36 PM

5. Really! You post a link to an article from the New York Observer

a paper owned and published by the son-in-law of Donald Trump. Really!

This isn't a story either. It's an opinion piece without a single named attribution other than to a Fox News Story. It's a load of bollocks!

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Response to VMA131Marine (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:39 PM

11. Then have this OP hidden

It was linked to Yahoo, and his credentials seem to be adequate

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Response to ejbr (Reply #11)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:41 PM

15. I'd rather it stay up so you remain associated with posting this crap!

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Response to VMA131Marine (Reply #15)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:45 PM

22. Why, thank you!

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Response to ejbr (Reply #11)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:55 PM

31. Yes, he's highly credentialed as a right-wing hack.

Bernie doesn't need right wing hacks to win.

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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #31)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:09 PM

39. Fair enough

but the story is out there. The only push back other than the source is that she is not in legal jeopardy, no comments on her continuous poor judgment.

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Response to ejbr (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:36 PM

6. DU has gone full Beghazi.

 

Clinton is putting American lives at risk. What shady shit and something the right throws at democrats every single election season.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:39 PM

10. I smell desperation.



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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:42 PM

17. Big time.

 

The really messed up part is that this directly echoes right wing smears on the Clintons for decades. There is simply nothing there with the emails so they have to spin it. The rights favorite way to do so is to point at deems and say they are weak or are putting American lives at risk.

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Response to ejbr (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:38 PM

8. Oh brother ...

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:45 PM

21. The Koch Industries fund the Tax Foundation being used to trash Bernie and

that seems to be fine and worthy of a rec and no complaint.

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Response to ejbr (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:40 PM

12. Even Fox News knows this story is disingenuous

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-news-greta-van-susteren-sees-no-legal-liability-in-hillary-emails/

The e-mails' content WAS NOT CONSIDERED CLASSIFIED at the time they were sent.

Classification changes. That does not make those who touched it before guilty of anything.

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Response to salib (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:47 PM

27. She may have no legal jeopardy,

but her unauthorized set-up could do damage whether she was ignorant of the importance of the emails or not. Poor judgment, like Iraq

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Response to ejbr (Reply #27)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:52 PM

30. Still disingenuous.

So, if someone designates information that you passed along as not classified. Was it poor judgement on your part to pass it along?

Then, someone in Gov't decides that it is actually top secret. Are you saying that you had bad judgement retroactively?

We are better than this.

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Response to salib (Reply #30)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:58 PM

33. ya can't tell the sanders supporters from the right wingers anymore lol nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #33)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:01 PM

35. I am a Sanders supporter

And am not a right winger.

Rather insulting generalization.

So, we have disingenuous rumor mongering vs. disingenuous generalizations.

Many might call both slander.

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Response to msongs (Reply #33)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:06 PM

38. Given your support of a Corporatist war hawk,

one could say the same of Clinton supporters...just sayin'

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Response to salib (Reply #30)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:04 PM

36. The judgement I am referring to

is not the passing of the information, but of the private email use for state department business. We would not be discussing this if her innocently sending and receiving information was a problem.

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Response to salib (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:12 PM

40. This point is valid:

 

Most controversially, Hillary and her mouthpieces have kept pushing the line that none of this information was “marked” classified when it appeared in her personal emails, despite the fact that this claim, even if true, does not mitigate any disclosure of classified information. Her defense seems to be that neither she nor anybody on her staff were able to recognize that Top Secret information was actually Top Secret, which is hardly a ringing endorsement of Hillary’s qualifications to be our next commander-in-chief.

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Response to ejbr (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:40 PM

13. OP = rookie mistake

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Response to ejbr (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:41 PM

14. This story should be shared...

...with FOX "News"!

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Response to Mike Nelson (Reply #14)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:44 PM

19. The Observer has a RW hit piece on Hillary almost every day that is posted here on DU. It is

shameful that Sanders supporters and the vile RW share the same mentality.

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Response to riversedge (Reply #19)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:47 PM

24. The Koch Industries fund the Tax Foundation.

Using that source seems to be fine.

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Response to ejbr (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:41 PM

16. ok. n/t

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Response to ejbr (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:42 PM

18. LOL

So informative. I'm just totally glad you posted this, really I am....

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Response to ejbr (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:44 PM

20. Pitiful. How desperate are you?

 

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #20)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:47 PM

26. Very? Extremely? Exceedingly? Bunches?

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #20)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:49 PM

28. Awwww....

you hurt my fee fees...

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Response to ejbr (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:47 PM

25. LOL. Right-winger John Schindler.

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Response to ejbr (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:50 PM

29. Wonkette: Hillary Clinton Definitely Going To Email Jail This Time For Sure

Hillary Clinton Definitely Going To Email Jail This Time For Sure
By Doktor Zoom - January 30, 2016 - 12:13pm

http://wonkette.com/598345/hillary-clinton-definitely-going-to-email-jail-this-time-for-sure#kkEfU4SQHKhtkjM7.99

Better call the House Select Committee on Benghazi back into session, because with just days to go before the Iowa caucuses, there’s finally some huge shocking news about Hillary Clinton and all the Top Secret emails on her private server, which as everyone knows is the one issue that Americans simply can’t seem to stop talking about, at least after they’ve exhausted talking about the weather, sportsball, television, movies, their children, cat videos they saw on YouTube, and whether this milk is giving their coffee that funny taste. The carton says it’s not expired yet, but it might be a little off. Here, smell it, what do you think? And then right after that, Hillary’s emails.

What happened was that before releasing January’s monthly stash of emails Friday, the State Department announced that it was withholding 22 of the emails because they contained information that has been reclassified as “Top Secret,” although State Department spokesman John Kirby pointed out that “these documents were not marked classified at the time they were sent.” It’s also not clear whether the newly reclassified emails were sent by Clinton, or had been sent to her by other State Department staff; the New York Times notes that the bulk of emails released from Clinton’s server so far “were messages written by other State Department officials and forwarded by her closest aides.”

Still, they were on her private server, and they’re now marked classified, so the only logical conclusion is that Hillary Clinton is a spy. Be careful, her bowtie is really a camera.

<snip>

So anyway, Hillz, it was nice knowing you, bummer about how this HUGE SCANDAL will finally murder your campaign just like you personally strangled Vince Foster while not declaring your tax losses on Whitewater and planning the attack on Benghazi. Maybe if you’re lucky, you really will get another 11 hours of grilling from House Republicans, seeing as how that made you look great last time.


<Much more at link>

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Response to ejbr (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:55 PM

32. RW propagandist also claimed Valerie Plame outing was a 'contrived scandal'. The guy's psychotic.

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Response to ejbr (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:00 PM

34. We'll see if the story comes out on other media.

 

If it's true, it doesn't look good for Clinton.

Discussions with Intelligence Community officials have revealed that Ms. Clinton’s “unclassified” emails included Holy Grail items of American espionage such as the true names of Central Intelligence Agency intelligence officers serving overseas under cover. Worse, some of those exposed are serving under non-official cover. NOCs (see this for an explanation of their important role in espionage) are the pointy end of the CIA spear and they are always at risk of exposure – which is what Ms. Clinton’s emails have done.

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Response to ejbr (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:04 PM

37. ..

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Response to ejbr (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:13 PM

41. The wages of derp are derp.

 

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Response to ejbr (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:23 PM

42. Recomended

Not all "RW sources" are equal

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Response to ejbr (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 08:08 PM

43. K/R

 

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Response to ejbr (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 09:41 PM

44. Ahhh, the half-truth brigade. Shhhh! Don't tell that those emails were not secret when she got them!

Nor were they classified when she may have sent them.

Carefully word everything to make it sound bad bad bad. (Even though you know it was not bad at all!)

Remind that it is a criminal matter.... even though that would not apply to someone who only handled it before it was classified.

Remind that people's lives could be at risk ... even though the chances of that are nil and even if it was it was SOMEONE ELSE'S MISTAKE.

Then wait and re-post it as though no one ever said a thing about it.

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Response to Festivito (Reply #44)

Tue Feb 2, 2016, 05:13 AM

45. My bad

We should give her the benefit of the doubt about the 30,000 deleted emails because... Hillary or something. Got it.

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