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powergirl

(2,393 posts)
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 02:02 PM Sep 2012

So, I am watching Bibi Netanyahu and I feel like I am being lectured to - as an American

and I find it a little offensive. I support Israel and I don't like the tone he is taking. Am I the only one who feels this way?

He basically is telling the United States how to deal with Iran - keeps talking about CLEAR RED LINES. We can't do that - we can't show our hand. I am not a military strategist here - but am I right???







Edit: Now he is holding up a ridiculous diagram that looks like a "bomb" from the Itchy and Scratchy show - trying to show different stages of Uranium Enrichment. He probably got it copied at Kinkos an hour ago. He keeps beating his lecturn with the cheesey poster. He just whipped out a red sharpie and drew, wait for it, A RED LINE!

Faint applause here and there - probably from APAC

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So, I am watching Bibi Netanyahu and I feel like I am being lectured to - as an American (Original Post) powergirl Sep 2012 OP
I agree with you-FUCK him gopiscrap Sep 2012 #1
I agree with Your F Him Sentiment Exactly n/t Indykatie Sep 2012 #33
Wasn't he calling the same tune back in the 90's? annabanana Sep 2012 #2
I think it would have gone over better if he had smoke coming out of the Bomb Chart! Walk away Sep 2012 #6
First he says that threatening retaliation won't work... Walk away Sep 2012 #3
He and Romney have some business history powergirl Sep 2012 #4
Netanyahu IS an old friend of Romney, so he most likely is trying to influence the U.S. election AZ Progressive Sep 2012 #19
BiBi is an old friend of Sheldon Adelson and Shelly gave Mitt multi millions.... Walk away Sep 2012 #21
Netanyahu is an ass get the red out Sep 2012 #5
he's been emboldened by Adelson's money and Romney's desperation... progressivebydesign Sep 2012 #7
Well said - on dragging America in powergirl Sep 2012 #11
He is like that. nt bemildred Sep 2012 #8
I think it was a VERY good speech Cosmocat Sep 2012 #9
I hear what you are saying, but . . . powergirl Sep 2012 #12
he is an asshole period. mshasta Sep 2012 #30
He is trying to sway the Election.. fun n serious Sep 2012 #10
I say put him in a room with that other Iranian asshole and let them both be tough guys there. The o Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2012 #13
I can see what everyone is saying about being Patronizing jpbollma Sep 2012 #15
I'm not talking about one speech. I'm talking talking about his whole MO reg. this president Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2012 #17
Well now that I could probably agree with jpbollma Sep 2012 #18
The only thing that I'll say about this speech ..... well a picture's worth Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2012 #22
I think Obama would be far more circumspect in engaging in a new war. LiberalAndProud Sep 2012 #24
He has been making ultimatums for two weeks... Walk away Sep 2012 #25
I love the Israeli people, but I cannot stand Netanyahu. He is a huge negative for Israel because he Texas Lawyer Sep 2012 #14
Sheldon isn't supporting Romney due to Israel jpbollma Sep 2012 #16
No, you are not the only one. CBHagman Sep 2012 #20
The question that needs to be asked is. Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2012 #23
KERBOOM!!!!! Walk away Sep 2012 #26
Cartoons of Mass Destruction tblue Sep 2012 #27
How is this different from the Innocence of Muslims? He wants Iran to react with violence. nt patrice Sep 2012 #28
NuttyYahoo with an ACME time bomb. The Onion just closed its doors and cancelled their utilities. JoePhilly Sep 2012 #29
Bush W gave it to him. LiberalFighter Sep 2012 #31
His brother Yonatan Netanyahu was the only avebury Sep 2012 #32
Who designed the bomb? ThoughtCriminal Sep 2012 #34
I didn't watch the speech (full disclosure) Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2012 #35
I watched the speech and couldn't believe it when he powergirl Sep 2012 #38
and keep in mind Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2012 #40
he has got to go mitchtv Sep 2012 #36
Can you imagine the chatter from the Republicans if the president followed the advice of powergirl Sep 2012 #39
Agreed Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2012 #41
Americans are not eager to go to war. fun n serious Sep 2012 #37

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
2. Wasn't he calling the same tune back in the 90's?
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 02:07 PM
Sep 2012

And what's with that stupid chart? It reminds me of the diagrams of "labs" that were cooked up for the Iraq invasion.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
6. I think it would have gone over better if he had smoke coming out of the Bomb Chart!
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 02:14 PM
Sep 2012

You can tell he has never been in a Science Fair!

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
3. First he says that threatening retaliation won't work...
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 02:07 PM
Sep 2012

as it did with the (then) USSR because Iranians are basically religious fanatics with a culture of suicide bombings. Then he says that drawing a clear red line will somehow stop them.

He just flipped within 5 minutes! Is he related to Mitt Romney?

Also: nice Bomb Chart!

powergirl

(2,393 posts)
4. He and Romney have some business history
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 02:11 PM
Sep 2012

whatever that is . . . Does he not get that he doesn't get to tell the United States to send our brothers, sisters, sons, daughters, husbands, wives to war???

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
21. BiBi is an old friend of Sheldon Adelson and Shelly gave Mitt multi millions....
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 02:56 PM
Sep 2012

to win the Presidency and go to war with Iran for Israel!

get the red out

(13,460 posts)
5. Netanyahu is an ass
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 02:13 PM
Sep 2012

Though I'm sure Mitt Romney would be kissing his if elected. Netanyahu is Israel's mistake. Hopefully he won't get a bunch of his citizens killed before they can elect someone with more sense.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
7. he's been emboldened by Adelson's money and Romney's desperation...
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 02:15 PM
Sep 2012

and the Fox News folks are all too happy to exploit this, even if it means a nuclear war. As long at the billionaires get their tax cuts.

I'm tired of America being dragged around by Israel. I support them in that I don't want to see people attack them, but I don't support their horrific treatment of the Palestinians, and they absolutely CONSTANT agressive attitude, and insistance on dragging America into their problems.

powergirl

(2,393 posts)
11. Well said - on dragging America in
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 02:19 PM
Sep 2012

And from what I can tell on the news, the citizens of Israel are not exactly in agreement with Bibi on going to war again. The Israelis deserve some to live for any peace they can find. I think his defense minister , Ehud Barak (?) disagrees with Bibi too. I know that Obama will not let Bibi bully the United States into war.


Cosmocat

(14,559 posts)
9. I think it was a VERY good speech
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 02:16 PM
Sep 2012

he had strong facts, he was well spoken, clear, he gave President Obama credit and was respectful toward him and the US.

powergirl

(2,393 posts)
12. I hear what you are saying, but . . .
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 02:20 PM
Sep 2012

I found it very patronizing. He mentioned Al Quaeda several times - in an effort to scare Americans into war. I don't like it when other countries tell us what to do.

mshasta

(2,108 posts)
30. he is an asshole period.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 03:32 PM
Sep 2012

a very dangers one...he's try to start a new war and send americans to it front lines..
to me he is a dick.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,495 posts)
13. I say put him in a room with that other Iranian asshole and let them both be tough guys there. The o
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 02:21 PM
Sep 2012

who comes out is the winner. Simple.

jpbollma

(552 posts)
15. I can see what everyone is saying about being Patronizing
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 02:33 PM
Sep 2012

but I don't think he said anything that had to do with swaying our election at all. Do you guys really think Obama would not also support a strike on Iran? Of course he would. I really hope it doesn't come to that. He certainly was a bit patronizing, but in fairness he was only doing his duty and job to Israel. When the US or any other country feels threatened and makes a big speech like this they also are quite patronizing and a bit simplistic. It's the nature of politics I suppose.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,495 posts)
17. I'm not talking about one speech. I'm talking talking about his whole MO reg. this president
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 02:41 PM
Sep 2012

and his bullshit tough guy attitude in general. And I've made the same comment reg. both bushes Hussein and these jackasses who are so quick and so "brave" in sending others to do the killing and dying for them.

jpbollma

(552 posts)
18. Well now that I could probably agree with
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 02:50 PM
Sep 2012
. I was only commenting on this particular speech because of the original OP headline specifically dealing with this speech.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
24. I think Obama would be far more circumspect in engaging in a new war.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 03:07 PM
Sep 2012

In my opinion, that is the *first* item on Mitt's agenda, and Yahoo knows it.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
25. He has been making ultimatums for two weeks...
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 03:14 PM
Sep 2012

This is the pact he made with Adelson/Romney. They think this is their chance to gain votes and make Obama look bad.

Texas Lawyer

(350 posts)
14. I love the Israeli people, but I cannot stand Netanyahu. He is a huge negative for Israel because he
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 02:25 PM
Sep 2012

is having the (intended or unintended?) effect of turning bipartisan support for Israel into a partisan issue. This is a Repub strategy to try to polarize the Jewish vote (and it works with morons like Sheldon Adelson), and Netanyahu is unfortunately playing into the Repub's hands which is vastly against Israel's interest.

jpbollma

(552 posts)
16. Sheldon isn't supporting Romney due to Israel
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 02:34 PM
Sep 2012

He is supporting Romney because his casinos are under federal investigation. he is only looking out for number one.

CBHagman

(16,982 posts)
20. No, you are not the only one.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 02:54 PM
Sep 2012

I just heard the audio and didn't see the visuals, but I caught the tone, phrasing, and structure of his remarks.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
27. Cartoons of Mass Destruction
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 03:18 PM
Sep 2012

I've heard more than one person call him Israel's Dick Cheney. He does not represent all of Israel any more than Cheney did all if the US.

avebury

(10,951 posts)
32. His brother Yonatan Netanyahu was the only
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 03:39 PM
Sep 2012

Israeli soldier killed during the Entebbe Raid. His family released a book of letters he wrote over a long period of time. I read the book a long time ago and found him to be an interesting person. He came to realize that it would not work in the long time for Israel to be perpetually at war with the Arab countries and it seemed like he really longed for peace. This is the impression I came away of him after reading his letters.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,396 posts)
35. I didn't watch the speech (full disclosure)
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 04:18 PM
Sep 2012

however that image is silly beyond all belief and really sucks out all of the "credibility" that he had on what is a serious, albeit far from imminent, problem. I mean, this is grade-school stuff. How embarrassing!

powergirl

(2,393 posts)
38. I watched the speech and couldn't believe it when he
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 04:58 PM
Sep 2012

whipped out that chart. He kept accidentally hitting the microphone with it and it would make crashing sounds. It was as stupid live as it is in the picture. He had the poster behind the lecturn and he pulled it out like a magician. I am sure the Israeli public burried their faces in their hands and whispered "Sweet Jesus" (lol) when they saw it.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,396 posts)
40. and keep in mind
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 06:33 PM
Sep 2012

this is the guy a "President Romney" would pick up the phone to call for advice about Israel/ME. Double It's hard to look at a picture like this and take him seriously anymore IMHO.

mitchtv

(17,718 posts)
36. he has got to go
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 04:42 PM
Sep 2012

I generally am supportive of Israel, But this guy is too much. I think this behavior should cost Israelis dearly. They do not dictate to the hand that feeds them. they need to know , any war they start, they are on their own

powergirl

(2,393 posts)
39. Can you imagine the chatter from the Republicans if the president followed the advice of
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 04:59 PM
Sep 2012

a FOREIGN LEADER???? Of course, they wouldn't hold Mittens to the same standard. Sigh.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,396 posts)
41. Agreed
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 06:36 PM
Sep 2012

It's o.k. to be friends with somebody but being friends doesn't obligate you to go to somebody else's house with them and beat them up (or kill them).

 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
37. Americans are not eager to go to war.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 04:50 PM
Sep 2012

Bush wore us out. If Bibi and Romney think this is going to work in their favor they better think again.

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