All is fair unfortunately in politics

[SheenaR]

And there is nothing that can be done about that.

With that said, I would like to think we are all intelligent folks here. Why? Because we don't belong to that other party. That's for starters.

With that said, do intelligent people really take a look at what's going on and think it's just some coincidence? These are not ridiculous conspiracy theories. The Union flap? LCV? AARP? Do you honestly effing believe that this is just coincidental? That Sanders ran a campaign for almost a year that was devoid of anything like this, and then with a week to go they suddenly said "eh f*ck it" and started breaking rules?

If you do not think this is systematic and coordinated, you have never worked on a campaign and you are very naive about the lengths a candidate will go to win.

In this case? Yes. I am accusing the Clinton campaign of directly orchestrating this. Absolutely. 100%. And I am willing to bet, since Bernie won't back down, they will go full Hiroshima over the next few days. Just watch. It will absolutely get worse.

I myself am not naive also. Do I believe the Sanders campaign takes shortcuts and plays fast and gets their hands dirty when they have to? Absolutely. But you all have to be completely brainwashed (and I honestly respect several Clinton supporters on here DSB, Cali Dem to name a couple) to think that this is just pure happenstance. It is not how politics works.

It absolutely sucks. But this stuff isn't about fairness. It's about winning. Bottom line. Just don't tell me I have a foil hat on. I may be new here but I am not new to the game. I am aware of how things work.

Thanks.

[DanTex]

1. Whoa. So now Clinton is responsible for Bernie's ethical lapses?

This keeps getting better.

[SheenaR]

3. I wrote it all very fast.

Dan my friend. It's the timing. The timing tells you all you need to know. I specifically said that the Sanders camp is almost definitely playing fast with the ethics as well. But this is coordinated. This is designed to break a campaign down using the means necessary. I'm not even saying it's stupid. I'm just calling it what it is

[DanTex]

6. You're saying it's coordinated by Clinton. Just to be clear.

You're saying that Clinton somehow got Bernie's people to use the logos and impersonate the union members. Is that correct?

[SheenaR]

11. Nope

I'm saying Sanders used the logos. And I'm saying it's not something that just started. I'm saying, there will be until Monday a release of anything and everything that can remotely be used against him. That is the coordination. They knew. They waited. Smartly! But let's get real. Heck I'm saying it's smart!

[DanTex]

15. I see. So Sanders has been misusing logos the entire time, and nobody figured it out until now.

And that was because of Clinton.

More plausible, but I still don't buy it.

[SheenaR]

16. Nobody on this trail

Is playing clean 100% of the time. Heck I worked for Edwards. I should know. I saw it from him and I saw it from Clinton and Obama. It's dirty but it's fair. I'm saying they are cashing in their chips now to win this fast

[mcar]

8. It is amazing

Bernie cannot do anything wrong. So when his campaign does something proven to be wrong, he and said campaign have to be inept enough to let his competitor get into his campaign to orchestrate said wrong doing. Cause Bernie can do nothing wrong and Hillary is all that is evil in the world.

[VulgarPoet]

2. They're gonna tell you you've got a lot more than just a foil hat.

But I'm right behind ya.

[SheenaR]

5. I mean

I'm not even saying I wouldn't do it! I'm saying this is what is happening. And as much as we all at times deify our candidates, this stuff is real , it works and it's happening.

[zappaman]

4. Yes, anything that goes slightly askew in the Sanders campaign

is because of the conspiracy of the evil Clintons.

[SheenaR]

7. Again

Think before writing. I'm not even insulting them. If you think they found out at the same time you did, like "oh my, Bernie did what?", you are kidding yourself

[zappaman]

10. Again, yes it's a conspiracy

impossible to be a coincidence or that the Sanders campaign made a mistake.

[SheenaR]

13. 0 mistakes for 9 months

3 in one day. That what you are going with?

[ypsfonos]

9. We have not begun to see just how dirty

It's gonna get!


but Bernie will nuke 'em!

[hrmjustin]

12. Because nothing is ever Sanders fault.

[SheenaR]

14. Holy shit

I can't be clearer folks. I'm not saying Sanders was innocent or can't do anything wrong despite my support for him.

I'm saying the gloves are off. The Clintons are doing what they have to do. It's probably going to work!

I'm giving credit for a time tested tactic and you folks can't even take that. No you are all right. She had NO clue this was coming out

[FrenchieCat]

18. Perhaps Sanders' campaign is being looked at closer by many.....

as it started it surge...which would make sense, and would be natural,
how that's normally how it goes. I don't think this is just reserved to Sanders' campaign,
and I don't think that Hillary's campaign is at the heart of it, although you might.

Look, Hillary's been called a lot of things, and you don't see her crying that it's all Sanders fault!
You can't have it both ways.....

[Paulie]

19. Welcome to GD:P

What you're seeing now out there has been happening in here for months.

Me, I don't think it's going to work. Because as you mention the optics on the timing. Plus the fact Bernie really is an honest politician (shockingly so), this drama is not going to stick.

I'm cooling a sixer of Spotted Cow for Monday night. Thanks Wisconsin for the awesome beer, and I'll be raising my glass to Iowa; Bring it home for Us!!! :cheers:

[beam me up scottie]

20. It's not you, SheenaR.

They're being purposely obstuse and trying to derail your thread. Don't let them discourage you, that's their goal.

I suggest liberal use of the ignore function.

Keep on posting!

[FSogol]

17. ALCOA!