Tue Jan 26, 2016, 12:39 AM

Gotta love all these Nu Dems losing their shit over the word 'taxes'

TAAAAXESSSS!!1! TAX AND SPEND LIBERAL!!1!

Reminds me of something...

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Gotta love all these Nu Dems losing their shit over the word 'taxes' (Original post)	whatchamacallit	Jan 2016	OP
Crazy, isn't it?	Ed Suspicious	Jan 2016	#1
To quote merrily in a distant thread,	bvf	Jan 2016	#10
I know, right? When the word taxes becomes a bad word in the Democratic Party you know	liberal_at_heart	Jan 2016	#2
We can thank the DLC/3rd Way/Koch Bros for that.	lob1	Jan 2016	#28
It's surreal isn't it?	Populist_Prole	Jan 2016	#30
The tax bogeyman. We have to stop with the Republican framing on everything.	Broward	Jan 2016	#3
"Free stuff" !!!	Autumn	Jan 2016	#4
Our transformation is almost complete.	draa	Jan 2016	#5
Gah! I'll bet those tusks were not easy to move... n/t	bvf	Jan 2016	#11
We know which end is the ass.	Spitfire of ATJ	Jan 2016	#15
I'm glad someone noticed.	draa	Jan 2016	#16
I'm old enough to remember when democrats didn't spew republican shit.	Spitfire of ATJ	Jan 2016	#17
Me too.	draa	Jan 2016	#18
Agreed.	alcibiades_mystery	Jan 2016	#6
Yes!	artislife	Jan 2016	#19
It is incredibly sad. Hard to believe this is America.	senz	Jan 2016	#36
Very moving video...	artislife	Jan 2016	#37
BIG GOVERNMENT!??!!	Matariki	Jan 2016	#7
This message was self-deleted by its author	1000words	Jan 2016	#8
They are trashing Mondale, too.	Odin2005	Jan 2016	#9
Reaganomics	AgingAmerican	Jan 2016	#12
Yup	whatchamacallit	Jan 2016	#39
Here's how we've been hypnotized on taxes...	MrMickeysMom	Jan 2016	#13
Political parties can be bought out.	delrem	Jan 2016	#14
It's the Neoliberals circling the wagons around their chosen candidate.	draa	Jan 2016	#20
This message was self-deleted by its author	1000words	Jan 2016	#21
Lol, yes it is.	draa	Jan 2016	#22
Reminds me of the left wing of the old GOP.	Betty Karlson	Jan 2016	#23
just FYI	hfojvt	Jan 2016	#24
Nah	RobertEarl	Jan 2016	#25
This message was self-deleted by its author	1000words	Jan 2016	#26
you say you want a revolution?	hfojvt	Jan 2016	#29
"No we can't" ?	RobertEarl	Jan 2016	#31
Right there with ya.	Zorra	Jan 2016	#42
Yeah, lets crush them and get reparations!!! Wait... wait... were yaw goin!??! lol...	uponit7771	Jan 2016	#33
So, you're not with us?	RobertEarl	Jan 2016	#34
For reparations it is!! Lets go !! Viva La revolution !!!	uponit7771	Jan 2016	#35
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Jan 2016	#38
Democrats have become the conservative party while Republicans have become the	Feeling the Bern	Jan 2016	#27
Bingo	Populist_Prole	Jan 2016	#32
I was always impressed with President Mondale...	brooklynite	Jan 2016	#40
You must have spit out your caviar when you heard Bernie say that	whatchamacallit	Jan 2016	#41
I get it! Because I'm rich, so I'm greedy!	brooklynite	Jan 2016	#43
I value the truth	whatchamacallit	Jan 2016	#44
Ah..."the voters are too STUPID to vote for my candidate"	brooklynite	Jan 2016	#46
Only the ones who can't, or won't, detect the heart of the matter	whatchamacallit	Jan 2016	#47
They remind me of Rush Limbaugh dittoheads! nt	m-lekktor	Jan 2016	#45

Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 12:41 AM

Ed Suspicious (8,879 posts)

1. Crazy, isn't it?

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Response to Ed Suspicious (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 12:55 AM

bvf (6,604 posts)

10. To quote merrily in a distant thread,

I'll retire to Bedlam.

(Yes, I know...)

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 12:42 AM

liberal_at_heart (12,081 posts)

2. I know, right? When the word taxes becomes a bad word in the Democratic Party you know

it is not the same Democratic Party anymore. I mean is there really anything left of what used to be the Democratic platform?

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Response to liberal_at_heart (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 03:51 AM

lob1 (3,820 posts)

28. We can thank the DLC/3rd Way/Koch Bros for that.

If they were honest, the important thing Bernie said is SAVINGS, not TAXES.

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Response to liberal_at_heart (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 03:55 AM

Populist_Prole (5,364 posts)

30. It's surreal isn't it?

I mean, we all know the whole status-quo third-way/DLC MO is to trend right, but at least talk a good game of being some faux bullshit populist during the campaign, then go full right after an office is won. Now they're going balls-out right during a campaign!

I wonder now if they realize they've already blown it and lost, and now just want to appear to at least go down swinging. Sort of their way of saying "Help us once more: we'll take care of you this time...really. No? You don't believe us? Well the hell with you...we'll bury you!".

Quite the ringing endorsement for their "base".

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 12:46 AM

Broward (1,976 posts)

3. The tax bogeyman. We have to stop with the Republican framing on everything.

Just another reason to support Bernie.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 12:47 AM

Autumn (43,470 posts)

4. "Free stuff" !!!

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 12:48 AM

draa (975 posts)

5. Our transformation is almost complete.

We're almost there...

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Response to draa (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 12:58 AM

bvf (6,604 posts)

11. Gah! I'll bet those tusks were not easy to move... n/t

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Response to draa (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 02:32 AM

Spitfire of ATJ (32,723 posts)

15. We know which end is the ass.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #15)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 02:37 AM

draa (975 posts)

16. I'm glad someone noticed.

Took long enough.

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Response to draa (Reply #16)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 02:46 AM

Spitfire of ATJ (32,723 posts)

17. I'm old enough to remember when democrats didn't spew republican shit.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #17)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 02:50 AM

draa (975 posts)

18. Me too.

It gets tiring having to defend being a Democrat around a bunch of people who don't seem to know the definition of the word. And it's no wonder people are leaving this party in droves. Why wouldn't they with this shit to put up with.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 12:50 AM

alcibiades_mystery (36,437 posts)

6. Agreed.

Taxes actually do need to be increased, and if we get single-payer out of that, so much the better. Infrastructure, too. This stuff needs to be paid for with tax increases. Enough nonsense.

People attacking Bernie for that need to check themselves.

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 02:55 AM

artislife (9,497 posts)

19. Yes!

Remember the bridge in Mpls....we have thousands countrywide that are in need of replacing but too many local governments not wanting to repair.

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Response to artislife (Reply #19)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 04:24 AM

senz (11,945 posts)

36. It is incredibly sad. Hard to believe this is America.

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Response to senz (Reply #36)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 04:43 AM

artislife (9,497 posts)

37. Very moving video...

thanks for posting.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 12:52 AM

Matariki (18,775 posts)

7. BIG GOVERNMENT!??!!

YES OR NO????!!!!

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 12:54 AM

Odin2005 (53,521 posts)

9. They are trashing Mondale, too.

As a Minnesotan I'm rather offended by that.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 01:01 AM

AgingAmerican (12,958 posts)

12. Reaganomics

101

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Response to AgingAmerican (Reply #12)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 12:50 PM

whatchamacallit (15,558 posts)

39. Yup

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 01:10 AM

MrMickeysMom (20,453 posts)

13. Here's how we've been hypnotized on taxes...

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 01:10 AM

delrem (9,688 posts)

14. Political parties can be bought out.

I saw it recently in BC, Canada, when the provincial Liberal party got bought out lock stock and barrel. It almost made me applaud, even though I was explicitly among the targeted "to be screwed".
It can only happen if the bought out party is extremely weak.

Once bought out, I don't see any possible redemption. You can't buy it back.

What can you say when already back in Oct. 45 members of the Democratic progressive caucus rushed out the door to endorse Hillary Clinton, and only one had the guts to back Sanders? That's so weak that it's barely perceptible. Clearly rife with trojans and other weak characters.

Big money isn't chickenshit. When big money buys a politician and buys a few think tanks to provide the MSM 24/7/52 fodder, and buys the MSM which in turn buys a few fake "progressive" opinionators/bloviators to round out a pretense, they cover every bet, and they do it by both instinct and training. They don't spare a nickel in vetting and buying the best.

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Response to delrem (Reply #14)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 03:02 AM

draa (975 posts)

20. It's the Neoliberals circling the wagons around their chosen candidate.

Those people aren't Liberals in any sense of the word. They support the same failed policies as the GOP. They don't even pretend anymore and for proof simply look at Clinton's stance on Medicare for All and college tuition. Those are party ideals and things Democrats would normally support. Especially the MfA. They've now abandoned those ideas in favor of doing nothing. Or worse yet, expanding on a failed system.

In 5 years since the ACA was signed into law they haven't even attempted to improve it. Not once. And the excuse we get is "because Republicans." Since when did Republicans stop Democrats from trying? Since the neoliberals arrived that's when. We get nothing now and they expect people to vote for her anyway. smh

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Response to 1000words (Reply #21)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 03:08 AM

draa (975 posts)

22. Lol, yes it is.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 03:21 AM

Betty Karlson (7,231 posts)

23. Reminds me of the left wing of the old GOP.

You know, the wing that left the GOP to the crazies because they were trying to build a big tent against 'taxes'?

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 03:32 AM

hfojvt (37,573 posts)

24. just FYI

at some point you may need to figure out how to win over people who disagree with you, rather than just wagging your finger at them.

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Response to hfojvt (Reply #24)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 03:43 AM

RobertEarl (13,685 posts)

25. Nah

We tried that. It's time now, and what this revolution is all about, that the People rise up and overwhelmingly crush the bastards who are stealing our future just so they can have their yachts and vacation homes.

There will be no finger wagging; it will be a shovel burying them and taking back from them what they have stolen.

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Tue Jan 26, 2016, 03:52 AM

hfojvt (37,573 posts)

29. you say you want a revolution?

well then you can expect to be fighting me too.

I have ZERO use for brain dead revolutionaries, and elections will not be won with rhetoric like that.

We have elections to win. Right now everybody expects that Congress will still be Republican controlled next year. We only stop that if we win people to our side. Fail to do that and we are right back to 2000.

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Response to hfojvt (Reply #29)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 04:03 AM

RobertEarl (13,685 posts)

31. "No we can't" ?

Oh, hell yes we can. I'm not fighting you. But the idea that we are to tremble in fear of the republicans is just nuts. And we will take back our future from those who are stealing the pure air and water for their profits.

That's the revolution Bernie is leading. And when we have healthy, well fed, and well educated children again, the People will be happy and contented, again.

If you oppose that, well, then, maybe you and I are in for a fight?

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #31)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 01:32 PM

Zorra (27,670 posts)

42. Right there with ya.

Oligarchists are responsible for most everything that is wrong in this world.

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #25)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 04:10 AM

uponit7771 (89,633 posts)

33. Yeah, lets crush them and get reparations!!! Wait... wait... were yaw goin!??! lol...

... "revolution" with an asterisk

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #33)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 04:11 AM

RobertEarl (13,685 posts)

34. So, you're not with us?

What are you scared of? You seem like your hair is on fire.....

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #34)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 04:14 AM

uponit7771 (89,633 posts)

35. For reparations it is!! Lets go !! Viva La revolution !!!

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 03:48 AM

Feeling the Bern (3,839 posts)

27. Democrats have become the conservative party while Republicans have become the

Fascist Party.

The liberal and the moderate are now unwelcome in both parties. Time to #FeeltheBern!

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Response to Feeling the Bern (Reply #27)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 04:06 AM

Populist_Prole (5,364 posts)

32. Bingo

I won't use the true but trite-ish "overton's window" argument, but only because it's so true because it's no longer needed because it's already been proven. Done deal. The most "reasonable" republican candidates of the past few election cycles were squashed like bugs by the PTB, and the same crowd deems any democratic candidate not economically conservative as "unelectable".

The best part about Feeling the Bern is making the MSM, the pundit class and the establishment, irrelevant. They're puzzled and don't get it. That's fine. Far be it for us to point out to our enemies what mistakes they're making.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 12:53 PM

brooklynite (89,865 posts)

40. I was always impressed with President Mondale...

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #40)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 01:12 PM

whatchamacallit (15,558 posts)

41. You must have spit out your caviar when you heard Bernie say that

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #41)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 01:32 PM

brooklynite (89,865 posts)

43. I get it! Because I'm rich, so I'm greedy!

I'd be happy to have the Democrats raise my taxes. One of the nice things about Hillary Clinton was her votes against the Bush Tax Cuts (you knew that,right?). The big risk is that Sanders doesn't win because of how other voters react to taxes.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #43)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 01:38 PM

whatchamacallit (15,558 posts)

44. I value the truth

If the brainwashed working class and monied elite don't, oh well... I'll still support the truthful candidate.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #44)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 01:41 PM

brooklynite (89,865 posts)

46. Ah..."the voters are too STUPID to vote for my candidate"

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #46)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 01:49 PM

whatchamacallit (15,558 posts)

47. Only the ones who can't, or won't, detect the heart of the matter

Bernie's proposal benefits a plurality, but demagoguery has a long history. Just look at the democrats on DU trying to instill fear and loathing with the word 'taxes'.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 01:40 PM

m-lekktor (3,675 posts)

45. They remind me of Rush Limbaugh dittoheads! nt

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2016 Postmortem (Forum)

Gotta love all these Nu Dems losing their shit over the word 'taxes'

1. Crazy, isn't it?

10. To quote merrily in a distant thread,

2. I know, right? When the word taxes becomes a bad word in the Democratic Party you know

28. We can thank the DLC/3rd Way/Koch Bros for that.

30. It's surreal isn't it?

3. The tax bogeyman. We have to stop with the Republican framing on everything.

4. "Free stuff" !!!

5. Our transformation is almost complete.

11. Gah! I'll bet those tusks were *not* easy to move... n/t

15. We know which end is the ass.

16. I'm glad someone noticed.

17. I'm old enough to remember when democrats didn't spew republican shit.

18. Me too.

6. Agreed.

19. Yes!

36. It is incredibly sad. Hard to believe this is America.

37. Very moving video...

7. BIG GOVERNMENT!??!!

9. They are trashing Mondale, too.

12. Reaganomics

39. Yup

13. Here's how we've been hypnotized on taxes...

14. Political parties can be bought out.

20. It's the Neoliberals circling the wagons around their chosen candidate.

22. Lol, yes it is.

23. Reminds me of the left wing of the old GOP.

24. just FYI

25. Nah

29. you say you want a revolution?

31. "No we can't" ?

42. Right there with ya.

33. Yeah, lets crush them and get reparations!!! Wait... wait... were yaw goin!??! lol...

34. So, you're not with us?

35. For reparations it is!! Lets go !! Viva La revolution !!!

27. Democrats have become the conservative party while Republicans have become the

32. Bingo

40. I was always impressed with President Mondale...

41. You must have spit out your caviar when you heard Bernie say that

43. I get it! Because I'm rich, so I'm greedy!

44. I value the truth

46. Ah..."the voters are too STUPID to vote for my candidate"

47. Only the ones who can't, or won't, detect the heart of the matter

45. They remind me of Rush Limbaugh dittoheads! nt

11. Gah! I'll bet those tusks were not easy to move... n/t