Sat Jan 23, 2016, 06:47 PM

mhatrw (10,786 posts)

Krugman Desperately Invokes Bloomberg Doomsday Scenario to Scare Us into Backing Hillary

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http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/01/23/how-to-make-donald-trump-president

How To Make Donald Trump President

Step 1: Democrats nominate Bernie Sanders. ...

Step 2: Michael Bloomberg decides to save the country by entering the race ...

Step 3: Some Democrats defect to Bloomberg, because they actually listen to those centrist pundits. Hardly any Republicans do ...

Step 4: Trump wins a yuuuuge victory.

This has got to be the most desperate bit of political troma pornography any establishment Democrat has unleashed upon us to date. You must vote for Hillary, not because you agree with her policies but because then the big bad Bloombogeyman won't feel the need to run as third party candidate since Bloomberg is basically Hillary Clinton dressed in stag.

The desperation of the Democratic establishment to cajole, scare, scream, attack, fantasize, whine, patronize, and berate us into voting for more corporate business as usual is truly shocking. When will it dawn on them that only they (and certainly not we) would benefit from more of the same?

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Krugman Desperately Invokes Bloomberg Doomsday Scenario to Scare Us into Backing Hillary (Original post)	mhatrw	Jan 2016	OP
I'm not afraid of voting for Hillary. I'm looking forward to it!	LuvLoogie	Jan 2016	#1
+1	Metric System	Jan 2016	#3
Hill yes!	SunSeeker	Jan 2016	#15
I would consider	Jenny_92808	Jan 2016	#36
Careful Jenny.	draa	Jan 2016	#60
Difficult To Disagree With This Assertion...	CorporatistNation	Jan 2016	#111
Hillaburton on the warpath!	mhatrw	Jan 2016	#37
I am happy to support Hillary Clinton	Gothmog	Jan 2016	#196
Cop out non-answer	mhatrw	Jan 2016	#198
I will support and vote for the Democratic candidate	Gothmog	Jan 2016	#203
Krugman is right. Bury your head in the sand at our peril.	Metric System	Jan 2016	#2
Krugman is right about what? About Third Way corpocrats willing to draft Bloomberg	mhatrw	Jan 2016	#47
Exactly! n/t	Got it	Jan 2016	#87
That's exactly right. And they're all friends	CoffeeCat	Jan 2016	#137
Right on the money, as Hillary would say. It's Bernie's time... go Bernie go!	InAbLuEsTaTe	Jan 2016	#152
Excuse me	Lage Nom Ai	Jan 2016	#109
Would you vote for Bloomberg if Sanders gets the nomination?	starroute	Jan 2016	#110
BE- If another Billionaire Oligarch runs he pulls votes from Hillary and Trump - Bernie Wins!	Ferd Berfel	Jan 2016	#204
Oh what a pile. I hereby happily throw Paul under the bus.	cali	Jan 2016	#4
According to MSNBC, Bloomberg is waiting until March 2	Gothmog	Jan 2016	#10
Agreed. That blog post removes any respect for him.	last1standing	Jan 2016	#52
Wouldn't be surprised.	PyaarRevolution	Jan 2016	#92
Make sure its a big bus....	Segami	Jan 2016	#82
No Need To... Paul Voluntarily Stepped Out In Front oF Da Bus!	CorporatistNation	Jan 2016	#114
Right there with you, cali!	tex-wyo-dem	Jan 2016	#136
Go Bernie Go! nt	nc4bo	Jan 2016	#5
False logic!!	highprincipleswork	Jan 2016	#6
OOGA BOOGA! A VOTE FOR BERNIE = PRESIDENT TRUMP!!!	beam me up scottie	Jan 2016	#7
havent we seen this movie before? nt	restorefreedom	Jan 2016	#40
Why do Bernie supporters hate America?	beam me up scottie	Jan 2016	#44
snort! sooooo glad i was not eating cheerios	restorefreedom	Jan 2016	#51
See the people in this train?:	beam me up scottie	Jan 2016	#53
excellent godzilla retro moment!	restorefreedom	Jan 2016	#57
Thanks!	beam me up scottie	Jan 2016	#63
me too! nt	restorefreedom	Jan 2016	#66
MST3k	elljay	Jan 2016	#112
Oh I have, they are the absolute best!	beam me up scottie	Jan 2016	#160
omg, you get my vote for post of the day... seriously laughed out loud... good one!	InAbLuEsTaTe	Jan 2016	#153
Thanks!	beam me up scottie	Jan 2016	#164
Yes, definitely... keep it up! I'll hafta remember not to be drinking anything while reading your posts...	InAbLuEsTaTe	Jan 2016	#190
Vote for DLCer/Clintonite Gore in the primary or Bush will win!!	merrily	Jan 2016	#182
Well smearing Bernie wasn't working so they needed to escalate.	beam me up scottie	Jan 2016	#183
Fscking with ballots next.	merrily	Jan 2016	#184
Hey, that's the way to get "change". Try and make people afraid to actually vote for anything	newthinking	Jan 2016	#95
Well said!	beam me up scottie	Jan 2016	#157
Report: Bloomberg Considering Independent Presidential Bid	Gothmog	Jan 2016	#8
He has to declare by March to be in the ballot in every state.	Gman	Jan 2016	#14
The primary contest will be over after Super Tuesday	Gothmog	Jan 2016	#26
Correct. For Clinton, it'll be all over	Stoolbend	Jan 2016	#83
Sanders is still polling very poorly with African American and Latino voters	Gothmog	Jan 2016	#100
Enjoy your "victory"	Stoolbend	Jan 2016	#130
Really?	Gothmog	Jan 2016	#197
to me it says the 1% will not relinquish their power	questionseverything	Jan 2016	#24
nailed it. nt	restorefreedom	Jan 2016	#41
In The End... Bernie Must...	CorporatistNation	Jan 2016	#117
Remember Wellstone and be safe, Bernie.	hedda_foil	Jan 2016	#165
I've been thinking about Warren for his VP. She's looking better all the time.	senz	Jan 2016	#166
... and that the DLC, DNC, and Turd Way concern for the 99% is pure kabuki.	GoneFishin	Jan 2016	#138
This is true. nt	senz	Jan 2016	#167
Amazing how little integrity corpocrats have.	mhatrw	Jan 2016	#59
Why would he think anyone would support him? nt	7962	Jan 2016	#124
Krugman has clearly been promised a cabinet position by Hillary.	99th_Monkey	Jan 2016	#9
It is not just Krugman	Gothmog	Jan 2016	#13
Bloomberg must be secretly supporting Bernie	99th_Monkey	Jan 2016	#32
hmmm. all plausible.	hopemountain	Jan 2016	#73
If anything	ejbr	Jan 2016	#90
Someone said under another OP that polls show exactly that	99th_Monkey	Jan 2016	#131
100% truth.	kristopher	Jan 2016	#94
never thought of it that way	NJCher	Jan 2016	#144
I think the Hill supporters on DU might	senz	Jan 2016	#170
Yah but it's kinda mutual, and many of us would hold our noses .. don't ya think? nt	99th_Monkey	Jan 2016	#174
Surely all 45 of them don't dislike us?	merrily	Jan 2016	#181
pffft. chuck todd.	hopemountain	Jan 2016	#33
Cough cough	SwampG8r	Jan 2016	#69
bravo, swampg8r!	hopemountain	Jan 2016	#72
Did you just come up with this from the top of your head? If so, congrats!	Duval	Jan 2016	#93
I did but it wrote itself	SwampG8r	Jan 2016	#113
Very good!	mountain grammy	Jan 2016	#140
Wow. That is good on all kinds of levels.	senz	Jan 2016	#168
Todd and fraud kind of rhyme.	lob1	Jan 2016	#134
That's how I see it too.	Broward	Jan 2016	#16
No, sorry. Krugman as usual nails it. You want Trump	Gman	Jan 2016	#11
then that will be on bloomberg	questionseverything	Jan 2016	#27
nailed it again! nt	restorefreedom	Jan 2016	#45
So you'd vote for Bloomberg rather than the Democratic nominee? n/t	PoliticAverse	Jan 2016	#46
WTF????? Did I say that??	Gman	Jan 2016	#50
So then who are these Democrats you implied would be choosing Bloomberg instead?	PoliticAverse	Jan 2016	#58
Notice how he disapeared as soon as you ask a legitamate question? these hillbots are too damm	litlbilly	Jan 2016	#88
So Sanders supporters will vote for Sanders	jeff47	Jan 2016	#62
Why are you assuming absolutes?	Gman	Jan 2016	#159
Absolutes like if Bloomberg runs, Trump wins?	jeff47	Jan 2016	#195
Yeah, everybody in the top 5% will rush to support the establishment candidate!	mhatrw	Jan 2016	#68
Then Trumps win lies on Bloomberg. Nobody else, just Bloomberg.	Autumn	Jan 2016	#126
LOL! But the far left says It wasn't on Nader that Gore lost	Gman	Jan 2016	#162
He's not the kind of guy who "melts."	senz	Jan 2016	#171
LOL yourself. The "far left" is communist and communists never concerned themselves with Nader.	merrily	Jan 2016	#180
Nader didn't jump in because the candidate he liked lost the nomination.	Autumn	Jan 2016	#194
Krugman is unhinged	Rosa Luxemburg	Jan 2016	#12
Hillary promised him a cabinet position is my guess.	Odin2005	Jan 2016	#23
Isn't Krugman exactly the kind of economic progressive Sanders supporters would want in a cabinet?	Metric System	Jan 2016	#31
No. We want single payer and glass steagall, not establishment shills. nt	mhatrw	Jan 2016	#71
No. He's an idiot. And a horrible interview	7962	Jan 2016	#127
No.	Autumn	Jan 2016	#128
NO. I want someone who's worked IN the field rather than merely written about it.	cherokeeprogressive	Jan 2016	#143
Bloomberg Will Have To Shoulder The Full Blame...	global1	Jan 2016	#17
I have confidence Hillary will be the DNC nominee so sounds like	Thinkingabout	Jan 2016	#18
if hc is the nominee (god forbid)	questionseverything	Jan 2016	#64
Maybe Bloomberg does not think Bernie is up to the task of president.	Thinkingabout	Jan 2016	#108
I think you may be projecting.	senz	Jan 2016	#173
Krugman is spot on, again.	SunSeeker	Jan 2016	#19
I love that meme	Gothmog	Jan 2016	#28
Screw him	madokie	Jan 2016	#20
Not surprising, for all of Krugman's posturing as being on the left...	Odin2005	Jan 2016	#21
Exactly. He works for Judith Miller's NY Times. He knows who butters his bread. nt	mhatrw	Jan 2016	#75
+1	mountain grammy	Jan 2016	#141
Why does this asshole think constantly insulting Sanders supporters is	CharlotteVale	Jan 2016	#22
And what gives Sanders supporter the right to insult other Democrats?	Thenewire	Jan 2016	#30
When did I tell him who he should vote for or blame him for another	CharlotteVale	Jan 2016	#54
Krugman is right, as he usually is.	DanTex	Jan 2016	#25
So you're voting for Bloomberg if Bernie is the nominee?	RichVRichV	Jan 2016	#123
Yup, that's what he's saying	farleftlib	Jan 2016	#139
If his economic theories are right, why aren't they being implemented all over the world?	cherokeeprogressive	Jan 2016	#146
Go F yourself krugman!	Jenny_92808	Jan 2016	#29
Is this what Sanders supporters resort to now?	Thenewire	Jan 2016	#39
Where does this say he doesn't align with Sanders ideas?	mhatrw	Jan 2016	#78
Isn't Sanders and his supporters doing the same thing then...	Thenewire	Jan 2016	#85
LOL. So Sanders supporters are trying to "frighten" Clinton supporters into what?	mhatrw	Jan 2016	#104
If they were	Old Codger	Jan 2016	#129
Desperately, even!	Bobbie Jo	Jan 2016	#34
Not going to work. At all. NEXT! :-)	djean111	Jan 2016	#35
krugman???	hopemountain	Jan 2016	#38
Bunk!	immoderate	Jan 2016	#42
Krugman must have read my thread about him this morning.	Bread and Circus	Jan 2016	#43
sorry, but fuck bloomberg.	restorefreedom	Jan 2016	#48
Agree!	Duval	Jan 2016	#97
LOLZ! Now Krugman is the Democratic Establishment. It's like listening to 9 year olds	KittyWampus	Jan 2016	#49
or Judith Miller or Hillary Clinton or Micheal Bloomberg. Right?	mhatrw	Jan 2016	#79
Don't you know? Anyone who doesn't support Sanders is part of the "establishment".	Beacool	Jan 2016	#161
What are you going to do if Sanders wins the nomination?	mhatrw	Jan 2016	#172
Stick to economics, Paul. n/t	lumberjack_jeff	Jan 2016	#55
So? Ignore him and vote for Bernie in your primary	emulatorloo	Jan 2016	#56
I'm not afraid of voting for Bernie! In fact, I look forward to it!	peacebird	Jan 2016	#61
Golly...who knew that an economist isn't a political scientist. (nt)	jeff47	Jan 2016	#65
It's worse than Krugs' flopped flip-flop on single payer. nt	kristopher	Jan 2016	#67
There was an alert in this thread I voted to leave it alone.	JRLeft	Jan 2016	#70
Yep!	Duval	Jan 2016	#99
So hillary supporters	SwampG8r	Jan 2016	#74
Loyalty oaths for Sanders' supporters.	mhatrw	Jan 2016	#81
they're afraid of BLOOMBERG! sing it to the mountains! they think that the party's	MisterP	Jan 2016	#76
Sounds to me that Krugman doesn't trust 'centrist'/third-way democrats to be faithful	HereSince1628	Jan 2016	#77
What is "political troma pornography?"	mcar	Jan 2016	#80
I can't believe I used to like this hack	jfern	Jan 2016	#84
Not going to work with me. K&R	Duval	Jan 2016	#86
These people are trying to make me vote 3rd party in the GE.	JRLeft	Jan 2016	#89
Krugman lost any cred he ever had with me long ago	passiveporcupine	Jan 2016	#91
So	Loudestlib	Jan 2016	#96
I guess Krugman's call to hold those who got us into Iraq accountable was all a sham	Chathamization	Jan 2016	#98
Also, Krugman saying that it's wrong to say that a Democratic presidential rival has no chance:	Chathamization	Jan 2016	#103
not happening. Feel the BERN! nt	retrowire	Jan 2016	#101
I have always liked Krugman - he claims he is an FDR economist.	jwirr	Jan 2016	#102
How much will it cost Bloomberg to learn he hasn't a snowballs chance in hell?	mikehiggins	Jan 2016	#105
Yeah, right. All the Bernie-skeptics are either "desperate" or part of the "establishment."	pnwmom	Jan 2016	#106
He's not a Bernie-skeptic in this blog post. He is fearmongering about Bernie's coming nomination.	mhatrw	Jan 2016	#116
No, he's just being realistic, unlike the Bernie fan club. n/t	pnwmom	Jan 2016	#118
So you agree that it is realistic that most Clinton supporters will abandon the	mhatrw	Jan 2016	#121
Most Democrats won't defect from Sanders to Bloomberg	thesquanderer	Jan 2016	#107
Really? Are you sure? I think we need to gauge that with some TOS loyalty oath polls. nt	mhatrw	Jan 2016	#119
I have my doubts that Hillary would support Bernie if he wins. This is her last dance	A Simple Game	Jan 2016	#149
I'm pretty sure either of them would support the other if s/he won...	thesquanderer	Jan 2016	#189
The plot thickens, it always thickens when a Clinton is involved. n/t	A Simple Game	Jan 2016	#192
A billionaire will save us from Bernie.....	neverforget	Jan 2016	#115
I bet you can't say "Bloomberg Doomsday" ten times fast.	Warren DeMontague	Jan 2016	#120
Not. Gonna. Work. Bloomberg, you have every right to run. Do it.	Autumn	Jan 2016	#122
Memo to Paul: No Sale	Tierra_y_Libertad	Jan 2016	#125
I'm kind of disappointed in Krugman for spouting such bullshit.	PatrickforO	Jan 2016	#132
There's an awful big rush to put Bernie away	Jarqui	Jan 2016	#133
The Beltway LOVES this narrative....	Spitfire of ATJ	Jan 2016	#135
If you don't vote for neoliberal Hillary Clinton the plutocrats will shove Trump down your throat!	raindaddy	Jan 2016	#142
So...vote for Clinton or her supporters will vote for Bloomberg?	Iggo	Jan 2016	#145
Why isn't it....	NCTraveler	Jan 2016	#147
Good question	mhatrw	Jan 2016	#175
Personal instincts, more often than not.	NCTraveler	Jan 2016	#191
I think it was billionaires before their millionaire minions.	mhatrw	Jan 2016	#199
I will not let the establishment terrorize me into supporting Hillary Clinton	Jack Rabbit	Jan 2016	#148
Krugman can't be this stupid	Bernblu	Jan 2016	#150
I wonder...	Agony	Jan 2016	#155
No coating	Truprogressive85	Jan 2016	#151
I'm confused	Nanjeanne	Jan 2016	#154
But wait! I just read at DU: "Breaking: Krugman endorses Single Payer and Medicare for All!!!"	Hekate	Jan 2016	#156
Wow. The establishment is crapping themselves so much that the believe that brining in a	R. Daneel Olivaw	Jan 2016	#158
I think Krugman's logic is way off.	hedda_foil	Jan 2016	#163
Okay I tried to finish the comments (all of which were good) but cannot stand it any longer.	senz	Jan 2016	#169
The Old Gray Lady likes things just as they are. nt	mhatrw	Jan 2016	#177
Now Krugman is "the establishment!"	rjsquirrel	Jan 2016	#176
All Hail Trump, Bloomberg, Clinton and Establishment Pundits! nt	mhatrw	Jan 2016	#178
As opposed to	rjsquirrel	Jan 2016	#185
I don't think I have ever made a postive post about Krugman, even if I agreed with	merrily	Jan 2016	#179
If this is supposed to scare me into voting for Hillary	CanonRay	Jan 2016	#186
The smell of Coronation Express Desperation is stronger every day.	99Forever	Jan 2016	#187
Well, here's another Doomsday scenario I heard this morning on CNN	Vinca	Jan 2016	#188
Another billionnaire against Bernie. I'm SHOCKED, I tell you, SHOCKED.	Zen Democrat	Jan 2016	#193
I think he's just describing what he thinks would happen.	spooky3	Jan 2016	#200
I like Krugman way better as an economist than as a political pundit.	hollowdweller	Jan 2016	#201
Krugman can vote	Bjornsdotter	Jan 2016	#202
mhatrw—Paul Krugman proved not only is he not a “liberal”…he is an enemy to those who are.	CobaltBlue	Jun 2016	#205

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Sat Jan 23, 2016, 06:49 PM

LuvLoogie (5,515 posts)

Krugman Desperately Invokes Bloomberg Doomsday Scenario to Scare Us into Backing Hillary

1. I'm not afraid of voting for Hillary. I'm looking forward to it!

3. +1

15. Hill yes!

36. I would consider

60. Careful Jenny.

111. Difficult To Disagree With This Assertion...

37. Hillaburton on the warpath!

196. I am happy to support Hillary Clinton

198. Cop out non-answer

203. I will support and vote for the Democratic candidate

2. Krugman is right. Bury your head in the sand at our peril.

47. Krugman is right about what? About Third Way corpocrats willing to draft Bloomberg

87. Exactly! n/t

137. That's exactly right. And they're all friends

152. Right on the money, as Hillary would say. It's Bernie's time... go Bernie go!

109. Excuse me

110. Would you vote for Bloomberg if Sanders gets the nomination?

204. BE- If another Billionaire Oligarch runs he pulls votes from Hillary and Trump - Bernie Wins!

4. Oh what a pile. I hereby happily throw Paul under the bus.

10. According to MSNBC, Bloomberg is waiting until March 2

52. Agreed. That blog post removes any respect for him.

92. Wouldn't be surprised.

82. Make sure its a big bus....

114. No Need To... Paul Voluntarily Stepped Out In Front oF Da Bus!

136. Right there with you, cali!

5. Go Bernie Go! nt

6. False logic!!

7. OOGA BOOGA! A VOTE FOR BERNIE = PRESIDENT TRUMP!!!

40. havent we seen this movie before? nt

44. Why do Bernie supporters hate America?

51. snort! sooooo glad i was not eating cheerios

53. See the people in this train?:

57. excellent godzilla retro moment!

63. Thanks!

66. me too! nt

112. MST3k

160. Oh I have, they are the absolute best!

153. omg, you get my vote for post of the day... seriously laughed out loud... good one!

164. Thanks!

190. Yes, definitely... keep it up! I'll hafta remember not to be drinking anything while reading your posts...

182. Vote for DLCer/Clintonite Gore in the primary or Bush will win!!

183. Well smearing Bernie wasn't working so they needed to escalate.

184. Fscking with ballots next.

95. Hey, that's the way to get "change". Try and make people afraid to actually vote for anything

157. Well said!

8. Report: Bloomberg Considering Independent Presidential Bid

14. He has to declare by March to be in the ballot in every state.

26. The primary contest will be over after Super Tuesday

83. Correct. For Clinton, it'll be all over

100. Sanders is still polling very poorly with African American and Latino voters

130. Enjoy your "victory"

197. Really?

24. to me it says the 1% will not relinquish their power

41. nailed it. nt

117. In The End... Bernie Must...

165. Remember Wellstone and be safe, Bernie.

166. I've been thinking about Warren for his VP. She's looking better all the time.

138. ... and that the DLC, DNC, and Turd Way concern for the 99% is pure kabuki.

167. This is true. nt

59. Amazing how little integrity corpocrats have.

124. Why would he think anyone would support him? nt

9. Krugman has clearly been promised a cabinet position by Hillary.

13. It is not just Krugman

32. Bloomberg must be secretly supporting Bernie

73. hmmm. all plausible.

90. If anything

131. Someone said under another OP that polls show exactly that

94. 100% truth.

144. never thought of it that way

170. I think the Hill supporters on DU might

174. Yah but it's kinda mutual, and many of us would hold our noses .. don't ya think? nt

181. Surely all 45 of them don't dislike us?

33. pffft. chuck todd.

69. Cough cough

72. bravo, swampg8r!

93. Did you just come up with this from the top of your head? If so, congrats!

113. I did but it wrote itself

140. Very good!

168. Wow. That is good on all kinds of levels.