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Matariki

(18,775 posts)
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 05:07 PM Jan 2016

Clinton's campaign seems to be working overtime today

Last edited Fri Jan 22, 2016, 06:18 PM - Edit history (1)

Floating multiple 'issues' about Sanders to see which one will stick. Pathetic.

Can't you all find something positive to say about your Candidate? Something good about her positions that would sway voters?

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Clinton's campaign seems to be working overtime today (Original Post) Matariki Jan 2016 OP
When she gets desperate she goes negative, and it ends up hurting her. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #1
I think she is scared of the upcoming debate Monday night. razorman Jan 2016 #4
I don't think she is - it's her CNN Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2016 #33
You may be right. I didn't think of that. Do you really think razorman Jan 2016 #37
who picks the questions? reddread Jan 2016 #47
That's the question. If the debate questions are real 'gimme's for Hillary, razorman Jan 2016 #52
I think they will be more like GOTCHA!'s for Sanders reddread Jan 2016 #53
Perhaps. Not sure what kind of 'gotchas' they can hand Bernie razorman Jan 2016 #55
they cant really take him off message reddread Jan 2016 #56
DU/KOS/Young Turks have been villifying Hillary and her supporters from day one. Dawson Leery Jan 2016 #2
Unfortunately, telling the truth about Hillary looks like vilifying. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #10
+1000. They sling shit and slander at her but claim it's the truth. Metric System Jan 2016 #14
I was not sorry to see Ed and Randi lose their shows. Dawson Leery Jan 2016 #20
Do you also remember the vile racism from Clinton's 2008 campaign? Kentonio Jan 2016 #54
nobody here has villified Hillary supporters reddread Jan 2016 #58
Things like this Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #3
I've read some and will read more. Matariki Jan 2016 #24
Something I see daily against Hillary. Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #44
It's Mitt Romney all over again. draa Jan 2016 #5
They really need to up their game and come up with something credible. Live and Learn Jan 2016 #6
What she seems to forget is that she's a Democrat (or calls herself one). closeupready Jan 2016 #7
Huh? kennetha Jan 2016 #8
Easy pinebox Jan 2016 #12
Values, positions, world view..... et al.... pangaia Jan 2016 #13
Because he stands for what once were real Democratic ideals Nanjeanne Jan 2016 #21
Hillary has two L's in her name catnhatnh Jan 2016 #39
Sanders on the Democratic Party, back in the day. kennetha Jan 2016 #16
Hillary was busy on Walmart's Board of Directors at that time. closeupready Jan 2016 #17
Sanders still isn't a democrat. kennetha Jan 2016 #18
Hillary is still a Republican, if Bernie isn't a Democrat. closeupready Jan 2016 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalArkie Jan 2016 #43
She was a Goldwater girl in college. Elizabeth Warren livetohike Jan 2016 #28
Hillary was a corporate lawyer who defended utility companies against residential ratepayers Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #62
So what fucking name calling will you apply to Warren? She VOTED Republican for decades Sheepshank Jan 2016 #35
They cant find any, so, its all they have litlbilly Jan 2016 #9
Lovin it! MeNMyVolt Jan 2016 #11
What positions? Shadowflash Jan 2016 #15
+ a brazillion. kath Jan 2016 #45
LOL anigbrowl Jan 2016 #22
We critique Hillary based upon her record. Maedhros Jan 2016 #23
Sure you do anigbrowl Jan 2016 #25
I sure do! Maedhros Jan 2016 #34
On Planet Clinton any and all fact based criticism is imaginary. hobbit709 Jan 2016 #42
Oh, I thought you were speaking for everyone. anigbrowl Jan 2016 #46
bwahh ahha haaa...Bernie has little to no record on any accomlishment Sheepshank Jan 2016 #38
Well it is a good day for it. Cassiopeia Jan 2016 #26
When your campaign is based on "No, we can't", there isn't a lot of positive to talk about. (nt) jeff47 Jan 2016 #27
When they go anti-Semitic you know they're getting desperate. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #29
Well, I saw the kibbutz thing someone posted today... Matariki Jan 2016 #36
Yep, that was it. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #40
I'm so glad that neverforget Jan 2016 #48
That was in GDP. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #49
Ah. the one I found was in the neverforget Jan 2016 #50
Because obviously, Hillary cannot run on the issues Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #30
I knew it would get ugly once Bernie started surging in the polls, TIME TO PANIC Jan 2016 #31
I was thinking about starting a rumor just to mess with them. Vinca Jan 2016 #32
Is nice that Hillary catnhatnh Jan 2016 #41
Their is a good thing about the Clintion's campaign against Sanders PFunk1 Jan 2016 #51
From 'Clinton's campaign' to 'you all'. randome Jan 2016 #57
Watching the wheels come off the Coronation Express... 99Forever Jan 2016 #59
one of the greatest train wrecks of the 21st century reddread Jan 2016 #61
Some of waited until the Weekend when we get paid Time and a Half riversedge Jan 2016 #60
 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
1. When she gets desperate she goes negative, and it ends up hurting her.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 05:10 PM
Jan 2016

Her net approval rating is a Negative 26.

Bernie's net approval rating is a Positive 27.


She honestly thinks going negative will help her.

Terrible candidate. Terrible campaign.



razorman

(1,644 posts)
4. I think she is scared of the upcoming debate Monday night.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 05:17 PM
Jan 2016

The DNC is no longer able to hide her from the public. So, in preparation, her campaign is trying to stick something to Bernie that she can hopefully use in the debate.

razorman

(1,644 posts)
37. You may be right. I didn't think of that. Do you really think
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 06:50 PM
Jan 2016

they could influence a live televised debate that much, without it being obvious? I think Bernie will call them on their shit if they try it.

razorman

(1,644 posts)
52. That's the question. If the debate questions are real 'gimme's for Hillary,
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 09:45 AM
Jan 2016

it will be obvious, since so many of us are watching for that sort of thing.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
53. I think they will be more like GOTCHA!'s for Sanders
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 09:47 AM
Jan 2016

only they arent up to the task as we keep seeing.
the insanity really hasnt even begun.

razorman

(1,644 posts)
55. Perhaps. Not sure what kind of 'gotchas' they can hand Bernie
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 09:50 AM
Jan 2016

that would not also snag Hillary. She is saying, "Me too, me too" to practically all of Bernie's positions, except on gun control.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
56. they cant really take him off message
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 09:54 AM
Jan 2016

but so many of the moves made against him dont make much sense, more like pretense.
imagine what a League of Women's Voters debate might be like?
why should we have to?

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
10. Unfortunately, telling the truth about Hillary looks like vilifying.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 05:28 PM
Jan 2016

Sorry, but that is the candidate you chose to support.


Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
20. I was not sorry to see Ed and Randi lose their shows.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 05:58 PM
Jan 2016

I remember the vile sexism from those two in 2008.
The reason left wing talk never took off is because we do not want to hear left wing Rush Limbaugh's.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
58. nobody here has villified Hillary supporters
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 09:58 AM
Jan 2016

which is a rather stark contrast.
and considering all the despicable things done to disrespect and revile
Bernie supporters on DU without basis?
an amazing testament.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
3. Things like this
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 05:11 PM
Jan 2016

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
24. I've read some and will read more.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 06:15 PM
Jan 2016

I don't hate Clinton. And will be happy to support her if she wins the primary.

It's impossible to not notice the multiple attempts today at trying to find a negative on Sanders that sticks.

draa

(975 posts)
5. It's Mitt Romney all over again.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 05:18 PM
Jan 2016

He did the same. His supporters were as bad as Clinton's. They never spoke of the good of their candidate, only smear his opponent 24/7. And it failed just like her attacks will.

People need to be FOR something and not just AGAINST everything. That's the issue.



Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
6. They really need to up their game and come up with something credible.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 05:18 PM
Jan 2016

The bs they have been posting is pretty pathetic and utterly transparent.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
7. What she seems to forget is that she's a Democrat (or calls herself one).
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 05:23 PM
Jan 2016

Going negative can work against someone from the OPPOSITION.

She's playing this out as if Bernie were the Republican, when in fact, he's more Democratic than SHE is.

She will lose in the general, because she's frightened of Republicans and will throw softballs.

kennetha

(3,666 posts)
8. Huh?
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 05:27 PM
Jan 2016

How is Bernie, a life-long independent, self-described socialist, who has never run as a Democrat until now for ANYTHING, more of a Democrat than Hilary Clinton is?

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
12. Easy
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 05:34 PM
Jan 2016

It's not hard against Hillary.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/6/4/1390529/-Hillary-s-voting-record

Dem ideals;

Universal health care
Living wage
Strengthening social security
Pro gay marriage (these days, Hillary was against it until 2013)
Education

are a few quick ones Bernie is STRONGER and MORE Liberal than Hillary on. FDR would be proud of Bernie.

Nanjeanne

(4,915 posts)
21. Because he stands for what once were real Democratic ideals
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 06:00 PM
Jan 2016

Before NAFTA, before 3 strikes, before deregulation, before believing we can't "choose to go to the moon" but have to settle for incremental inches that the Republicans let us have.

kennetha

(3,666 posts)
16. Sanders on the Democratic Party, back in the day.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 05:40 PM
Jan 2016

I am not a Democrat or a Republican. Wishes Jesse Jackson would run as an independent.


 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
17. Hillary was busy on Walmart's Board of Directors at that time.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 05:42 PM
Jan 2016

Prior to that, she was a Goldwater Girl.

kennetha

(3,666 posts)
18. Sanders still isn't a democrat.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 05:49 PM
Jan 2016

He's a socialist, who is just using the Democratic party process temporarily.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
19. Hillary is still a Republican, if Bernie isn't a Democrat.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 05:51 PM
Jan 2016

So unless you have something more substantive than 'is not!' 'is, too!', I'm done with this exchange. Have the last word. Cheers!

Response to closeupready (Reply #19)

livetohike

(22,121 posts)
28. She was a Goldwater girl in college. Elizabeth Warren
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 06:26 PM
Jan 2016

was a Republican unti she was 40 or so. She voted for Reagan. That's more concerning to me than someone's party affiliation in college.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
62. Hillary was a corporate lawyer who defended utility companies against residential ratepayers
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 10:56 AM
Jan 2016

in Little Rock. She and Webb Hubbell argued that giving residential ratepayers a break on their utility bills, at a time when inflation was a big problem, amounted to "unconstitutional confiscation of property".

She was also best buds with the richest Republicans in Arkansas, who helped to bankroll Bill's first presidential campaign.

She claimed to be "dead broke"after leaving the White House, but yet moved into one of the poshest suburban neighborhoods in New York. And soon after that, she was shilling for a war on the Senate floor that was being pushed by the "vast right-wing conspiracy", the same "vast right-wing conspiracy" she had complained about 4 years earlier.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
35. So what fucking name calling will you apply to Warren? She VOTED Republican for decades
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 06:47 PM
Jan 2016

Hillary never voted for a Republican...EVER!!

Shadowflash

(1,536 posts)
15. What positions?
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 05:35 PM
Jan 2016

This weeks? Last weeks? Last years?

You're gonna have to narrow it down.

As far as I can tell the only deeply held core belief HRC has, is the belief she should be president. Everything else is up for grabs.

 

anigbrowl

(13,889 posts)
22. LOL
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 06:07 PM
Jan 2016

When Bernie supporters critique Clinton they're 'speaking truth to power' or somesuch, no matter how many or content-free the posts.

When Clinton supporters critique sanders they're desperate and pathetic, if they advocate for why she'd made a good President it's 'corporate propaganda.'

No double standard here, nosiree.

 

anigbrowl

(13,889 posts)
25. Sure you do
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 06:17 PM
Jan 2016

That's why I see so many Wall street Journal editorials about her on DU these days. Thanks for your concern.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
34. I sure do!
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 06:44 PM
Jan 2016

I criticize her for her Iraq War Resolution vote, her close financial and political ties with the private prison industry, her gleeful chortling over the death of Gaddhafi, her close financial and political ties to Wall Street, and her hawkish foreign policy.

Are those not well-documented, or are they fabricated and imaginary?

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
38. bwahh ahha haaa...Bernie has little to no record on any accomlishment
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 06:50 PM
Jan 2016

his writing, sponsoring, nursing, promoting, lobbying for, passing any bills that have actually advanced the nation in any significant way is pretty much zero.

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
26. Well it is a good day for it.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 06:19 PM
Jan 2016

Millions are stuck at home due to the storm and many are probably reading the net while they have power.

Not much sticks to Bernie though. Especially the bullshit. Hillary and her attacks are as transparent as a perfect sheet of glass.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
29. When they go anti-Semitic you know they're getting desperate.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 06:29 PM
Jan 2016

We've seen the accusations of racism, sexism and communism before but the conspiracy theories about his time in Israel are new.

It's the new birtherism dressed up as "concern" and "curiosity".

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
40. Yep, that was it.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 06:51 PM
Jan 2016

They don't believe he was really at a kibbutz.

But they've gone anti-Semitic before, this is just the newest meme.

TIME TO PANIC

(1,894 posts)
31. I knew it would get ugly once Bernie started surging in the polls,
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 06:37 PM
Jan 2016

but they're scraping the bottom of the barrel with some of these attacks.

Vinca

(50,236 posts)
32. I was thinking about starting a rumor just to mess with them.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 06:39 PM
Jan 2016

Something like, "You know Bernie's mysterious absence from the kibbutz? He was really interning at the Kremlin." I can imagine them spreading that around as gospel.

PFunk1

(185 posts)
51. Their is a good thing about the Clintion's campaign against Sanders
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 12:39 AM
Jan 2016

All of these attacks is 'seasoning' him up for future Repug attacks if he wins. While at the same time is hurting Clinton's favorability ratings among numerous democratic voting groups.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
57. From 'Clinton's campaign' to 'you all'.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 09:54 AM
Jan 2016

It's too bad you don't view all Democrats as in this together.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
Leonard Cohen, Anthem (1992)
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99Forever

(14,524 posts)
59. Watching the wheels come off the Coronation Express...
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 10:10 AM
Jan 2016

... is one of the finest fails I have ever had the pure pleasure of witnessing.

Keep it up Hillarians, you're doing just fine.




 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
61. one of the greatest train wrecks of the 21st century
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 10:36 AM
Jan 2016

and like humpty dumpty, not all of the billionaires money can put it back together.

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