2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumClinton's campaign seems to be working overtime today
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Floating multiple 'issues' about Sanders to see which one will stick. Pathetic.
Can't you all find something positive to say about your Candidate? Something good about her positions that would sway voters?
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Her net approval rating is a Negative 26.
Bernie's net approval rating is a Positive 27.
She honestly thinks going negative will help her.
Terrible candidate. Terrible campaign.
razorman
(1,644 posts)The DNC is no longer able to hide her from the public. So, in preparation, her campaign is trying to stick something to Bernie that she can hopefully use in the debate.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)razorman
(1,644 posts)they could influence a live televised debate that much, without it being obvious? I think Bernie will call them on their shit if they try it.
reddread
(6,896 posts)wonder how subtle they can be?
razorman
(1,644 posts)it will be obvious, since so many of us are watching for that sort of thing.
reddread
(6,896 posts)only they arent up to the task as we keep seeing.
the insanity really hasnt even begun.
razorman
(1,644 posts)that would not also snag Hillary. She is saying, "Me too, me too" to practically all of Bernie's positions, except on gun control.
reddread
(6,896 posts)but so many of the moves made against him dont make much sense, more like pretense.
imagine what a League of Women's Voters debate might be like?
why should we have to?
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Sorry, but that is the candidate you chose to support.
Metric System
(6,048 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)I remember the vile sexism from those two in 2008.
The reason left wing talk never took off is because we do not want to hear left wing Rush Limbaugh's.
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)Or is your outrage selective?
reddread
(6,896 posts)which is a rather stark contrast.
and considering all the despicable things done to disrespect and revile
Bernie supporters on DU without basis?
an amazing testament.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Glad you ask, I hopes this helps
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/campaign-finance-reform/
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/campus-sexual-assault/
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/climate/
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/college/
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/criminal-justice-reform/
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/criminal-justice-reform/
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/disability-rights/
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/early-childhood-education/
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/plan-raise-american-incomes/
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/gun-violence-prevention/
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/health-care/
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/immigration-reform/
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/k-12-education/
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/labor/
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/lgbt-equality/
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/national-security/
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/rural-communities/
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/small-business/
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/social-security-and-medicare/
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/addiction/
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/voting-rights/
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/wall-street/
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/womens-rights-and-opportunity/
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/workforce-and-skills/
Matariki
(18,775 posts)I don't hate Clinton. And will be happy to support her if she wins the primary.
It's impossible to not notice the multiple attempts today at trying to find a negative on Sanders that sticks.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)draa
(975 posts)He did the same. His supporters were as bad as Clinton's. They never spoke of the good of their candidate, only smear his opponent 24/7. And it failed just like her attacks will.
People need to be FOR something and not just AGAINST everything. That's the issue.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)The bs they have been posting is pretty pathetic and utterly transparent.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)Going negative can work against someone from the OPPOSITION.
She's playing this out as if Bernie were the Republican, when in fact, he's more Democratic than SHE is.
She will lose in the general, because she's frightened of Republicans and will throw softballs.
How is Bernie, a life-long independent, self-described socialist, who has never run as a Democrat until now for ANYTHING, more of a Democrat than Hilary Clinton is?
It's not hard against Hillary.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/6/4/1390529/-Hillary-s-voting-record
Dem ideals;
Universal health care
Living wage
Strengthening social security
Pro gay marriage (these days, Hillary was against it until 2013)
Education
are a few quick ones Bernie is STRONGER and MORE Liberal than Hillary on. FDR would be proud of Bernie.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Nanjeanne
(4,915 posts)Before NAFTA, before 3 strikes, before deregulation, before believing we can't "choose to go to the moon" but have to settle for incremental inches that the Republicans let us have.
catnhatnh
(8,976 posts)because her psychic mother named her after a future hero...
kennetha
(3,666 posts)I am not a Democrat or a Republican. Wishes Jesse Jackson would run as an independent.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)Prior to that, she was a Goldwater Girl.
kennetha
(3,666 posts)He's a socialist, who is just using the Democratic party process temporarily.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)So unless you have something more substantive than 'is not!' 'is, too!', I'm done with this exchange. Have the last word. Cheers!
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livetohike
(22,121 posts)was a Republican unti she was 40 or so. She voted for Reagan. That's more concerning to me than someone's party affiliation in college.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)in Little Rock. She and Webb Hubbell argued that giving residential ratepayers a break on their utility bills, at a time when inflation was a big problem, amounted to "unconstitutional confiscation of property".
She was also best buds with the richest Republicans in Arkansas, who helped to bankroll Bill's first presidential campaign.
She claimed to be "dead broke"after leaving the White House, but yet moved into one of the poshest suburban neighborhoods in New York. And soon after that, she was shilling for a war on the Senate floor that was being pushed by the "vast right-wing conspiracy", the same "vast right-wing conspiracy" she had complained about 4 years earlier.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Hillary never voted for a Republican...EVER!!
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)MeNMyVolt
(1,095 posts)Shadowflash
(1,536 posts)This weeks? Last weeks? Last years?
You're gonna have to narrow it down.
As far as I can tell the only deeply held core belief HRC has, is the belief she should be president. Everything else is up for grabs.
kath
(10,565 posts)anigbrowl
(13,889 posts)When Bernie supporters critique Clinton they're 'speaking truth to power' or somesuch, no matter how many or content-free the posts.
When Clinton supporters critique sanders they're desperate and pathetic, if they advocate for why she'd made a good President it's 'corporate propaganda.'
No double standard here, nosiree.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)You critique Sanders based upon projection.
anigbrowl
(13,889 posts)That's why I see so many Wall street Journal editorials about her on DU these days. Thanks for your concern.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)I criticize her for her Iraq War Resolution vote, her close financial and political ties with the private prison industry, her gleeful chortling over the death of Gaddhafi, her close financial and political ties to Wall Street, and her hawkish foreign policy.
Are those not well-documented, or are they fabricated and imaginary?
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)anigbrowl
(13,889 posts)I guess I misunderstood you.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)his writing, sponsoring, nursing, promoting, lobbying for, passing any bills that have actually advanced the nation in any significant way is pretty much zero.
Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)Millions are stuck at home due to the storm and many are probably reading the net while they have power.
Not much sticks to Bernie though. Especially the bullshit. Hillary and her attacks are as transparent as a perfect sheet of glass.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)We've seen the accusations of racism, sexism and communism before but the conspiracy theories about his time in Israel are new.
It's the new birtherism dressed up as "concern" and "curiosity".
Matariki
(18,775 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)They don't believe he was really at a kibbutz.
But they've gone anti-Semitic before, this is just the newest meme.
neverforget
(9,436 posts)I have that forum trashed.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Because "inquiring minds" want to know what Bernie was really doing in Israel.
neverforget
(9,436 posts)protected group. I missed the one in GDP.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)but they're scraping the bottom of the barrel with some of these attacks.
Vinca
(50,236 posts)Something like, "You know Bernie's mysterious absence from the kibbutz? He was really interning at the Kremlin." I can imagine them spreading that around as gospel.
catnhatnh
(8,976 posts)stopped trading cattle futures...
PFunk1
(185 posts)All of these attacks is 'seasoning' him up for future Repug attacks if he wins. While at the same time is hurting Clinton's favorability ratings among numerous democratic voting groups.
randome
(34,845 posts)It's too bad you don't view all Democrats as in this together.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
Leonard Cohen, Anthem (1992)[/center][/font][hr]
99Forever
(14,524 posts)... is one of the finest fails I have ever had the pure pleasure of witnessing.
Keep it up Hillarians, you're doing just fine.
reddread
(6,896 posts)and like humpty dumpty, not all of the billionaires money can put it back together.