2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy Wall Street Gives Millions to Hillary (As a Former Goldman Sachs Banker,
I Say Bernie Has It Right)Raghuram Rajan, now the head of India's central bank, once wrote an academic paper blaming the financial crisis on poor people. Just yesterday, Bill Clinton placed blame for the crisis on our government. Anyone who has seen the Oscar-winning documentary Inside Job knows full well that the crisis was caused by our banks.
Banks lent trillions of dollars to home buyers on too loose of terms knowing that they could turn the resulting junk mortgages into AAA securities through the alchemy of CDOs and securitization and thus generate hundreds of billions of profit and leave the resulting mortgage mess to their investing clients.
But the financial crisis is behind us, right? Why would Wall Street shower Hillary Clinton with millions of dollars in speaking fees and tens of millions in campaign contributions?
I think it is an insurance policy. Wall Street wants a friend in the White House to protect the status quo, and if they can't get a Republican elected, Hillary is the next best thing. I think they need a friend in government because the industry could not survive an investigation into how they actually make their profits.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-r-talbott/why-wall-street-gives-mil_b_9049992.html
cali
(114,904 posts)Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Banksters, corporations, unions, schools, professional associations, etc., usually give something to all candidates with a chance to win. Wish there were real restrictions on what they can give -- if anything -- but there is not. If we want to beat the GOPers, we'll need funding. Might as well take some from them as long as we still tell them NO when it counts.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)Her record doesn't indicate that she will act against her $pon$or$.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)green917
(442 posts)You mean less inclined to actually curtail the types of activities that cause the near collapse in 2008 then, sure it's better...better for the banks.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)You will be surprised. Heck, he won the nomination in a brokered convention.
daybranch
(1,309 posts)she is already stating she will serve their interests in her half measures. They seem awfully pleased with her past performance as a senator and SOS.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)non grata here now.
That's a yoouuuuuge steaming pile of BS.
Phlem
(6,323 posts)Lokijohn
(46 posts)but I don't think its that group you mentioned
Go Bernie!
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Or, like most investors, they expect a return on their investments.
antigop
(12,778 posts)Proserpina
(2,352 posts)and they want another bailout when it does, baby!
Since nothing has been changed in the way Wall Street operates (as Bernie says, their business model is fraud) and little to no regulation has been imposed or enforced, we are sitting chained to another financial timebomb.
We have three possible futures, as I see it.
1) The bomb goes off before the Convention, and Hillary's campaign spontaneously combusts.
2) The bomb goes off after Bernie is nominated, and his coat-tails drag in the largest Democratic Progressive majority either the House or the Senate has ever seen since FDR.
3) The bomb goes off after Bernie enters the White House, and we have a chance to do the job right and in a timely fashion. A lot of bankers leave town and the borders.
azmom
(5,208 posts)It won't be pretty.
Proserpina
(2,352 posts)but there are fewer of them. So it's probably a wash as far as time and effort and pain.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)why the bankers did this - does this also apply to credit cards?
Indepatriot
(1,253 posts)That's the whole thing, right there in print for those clueless enough to have not figured this out yet. Wonder it they'll post this in the Hillary Group?
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)MynameisBlarney
(2,979 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)Not only a bankster investigation but also a health insurance /provider /big pharma/fraudulent billing investigation is needed. I trust Bernie to push the doj to investigate these criminal cabals and all the conspiracies involved including tax havens and "inversions "
Politicub
(12,309 posts)First, the article is written around a logical fallacy -- since Bill Clinton did X, then Y must be true because she's married to Bill. But politics is full of those, so no harm no foul there.
In addition to "Wall Street," Hillary's donors include people from every walk of life. Some of which are shit-throwing howler monkeys.
But the thing is, I see many more poop flingers in Bernie's column. His supporters have turned his campaign into Grover Norquist-eqsue loyalty oath fever dream. If you don't tow the party line, you get thrown to the curb. I don't see that Happening with most of Hillary's supporters. Like the candidate herself, we're pragmatists who accept that there is no utopia. It takes grit and dermination to get things done. And yes, sometimes compromise. Even if the dems win the executive and legislative branches of government, compromise will still be required. Look up the Stupak amendment and how it came close to derailing Obamacare. It took a compromise position to get the bill passed. And I'm so glad it did get passed.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)and tens of millions in campaign contributions?
Politicub
(12,309 posts)And gets people to listen.
I guess she should ignore people you don't like because they're not really people -- they're ambiguous Wall Street.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts), the capstone of a lucrative speechmaking sprint through Wall Street that earned her more than $2 million in less than seven months.
So the Question which you tired to sidestep is:
"Did or did not Wall Street shower Hillary Clinton with millions of dollars in speaking fees and tens of millions in campaign contributions?"
Politicub
(12,309 posts)How medieval - "Did or did not"
Maybe you should try water boarding me to get the answer you want.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Politicub
(12,309 posts)"Nanny nanny boo boo I win"
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Uncle Joe
(60,401 posts)Thanks for the thread, Katashi_itto.