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Mon Jan 18, 2016, 07:59 PM

Last night's debate winner :The TPP by ommission

Not one word opposing this corporate coup d'etat of our American democracy and "NAFTA on Steroids." This is as powerful and crucial a Democratic coattail issue as protecting Soc Sec/Medicare and Net Neutrality.

















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Reply Last night's debate winner :The TPP by ommission (Original post)
stuffmatters Jan 2016 OP
PatrickforO Jan 2016 #1
stuffmatters Jan 2016 #2
ViseGrip Jan 2016 #3
stuffmatters Jan 2016 #6
Ferd Berfel Jan 2016 #4
stuffmatters Jan 2016 #5

Response to stuffmatters (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 08:03 PM

1. Very telling the moderators didn't ask about it.

This is what the oligarchs do. Any inquiry is met with stony silence. Plus, the MIC is trying its best to get us into another war - because...PROFITS!!! - so part of the debate was about ISIS to the exclusion of all else.

But you're right. It is horrible it wasn't mentioned because it is huge.

As in a HUGE piece of crap.

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Response to stuffmatters (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 09:19 PM

2. Such a valuable lost opportunity for the Dems last night.











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Response to stuffmatters (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 10:02 PM

3. Maybe next time Bernie can bring up the TPP? and just take care of this situation of silence on TPP

 

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Response to ViseGrip (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 19, 2016, 05:30 PM

6. Hopefully, the sooner the better!

Not sure if the Congressional vote is before the next Dem debate, when the review period ends. I'm afraid it's really, really soon.

But Bernie certainly can take ownership of his long history battling fast track and these T Treaties. That definitely distinguishes him from Hillary's passive, tardy, hollow opposition after the crucial fast track vote. And just by describing it in a debate educates many still unaware that it's "NAFTA on Steroids" and a massive surrender of our American sovereignty to global corporate kangaroo courts. It's a huge political issue where most of the American people polled oppose it. Even Repub voters hate it when they hear the details.

So yes, hope Bernie brings it front and center in the next debate. He's really good at responding to questions with his own framing and message instead of answering cliche MSM questions with cliche answers.

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Response to stuffmatters (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 10:21 PM

4. Sad and true. But you didn't expect MRS GREENSPAN to touch on TPP did you?

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 19, 2016, 05:01 PM

5. And Mrs Clinton sliming Bernie for Pres ClintonGenslerSummersRubin Derrivatives Dereg Act

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Mrs Greenspan probably with the deepest, longest antagonism to Bernie for his Congressional grilling/public humiliation of her arrogant husband. ( It's still a classic, prophetic Utube moment.) NBC really did defy all standards of moderator neutrality putting in Mrs Greenspan as moderator for this Dem debate.

BTW not a "sexist" comment to connect public, political wives to the past of their husbands. Especially when Hillary tries to slime Bernie Sanders with Commodities Futures/Derivatives Act snuck into the year end budget bill and signed by her husband as he left office. That coupled with Clinton's abolition of Glass Steagall created the perfect storm for 2008 crash.

Robert Scheer in HuffPo today is extremely informative on Hillary's wild debate deflection onto Bernie re: this disastrous piece of Clinton legislation. And Gensler is NOW her top treasury advisor. She even brags about Gensler on her team Just wow

Mr Greenspan had huge responsibility for foundation of 2008 collapse, so did Pres Clinton's Administration. Amazing to see Sanders pitted against both of their wives: one moderating with her persistent anti Saunders nastiness ("so its a tax increase, so it's a tax increase... and your comment on Pres Clinton's sex life?" ) and one going way off the factual rails, rewriting her husband's history to stick Sanders for the Wall Street capitulation of her husband's Administration's Derivatives Deregulation Act that contributed so markedly to the 2008 collapse.

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