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(20,510 posts)
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 10:59 PM Jan 2016

Companies should be on board w/ Sander's healthcare plan

Any company that currently provides health insurance will probably come out ahead, especially small companies. I work for one. I pay the bills and do the payroll. Our employees are all over forty and some, like me, are pushing 60. We currently pay about $2800 for 5 people for a silver plan with a $6000 deductible. We would pay about $1600 a month with this plan and no deductibles or copays. What's not to love? 6.2% will save most companies money.

I'm sure that companies like Walmart and McDonald's that have huge numbers of employees who are covered by Medicaid or can't afford to pay their half of the company insurance plan premiums won't like it, but tough shit. I'm tired of subsidizing these corporate welfare queens.

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Companies should be on board w/ Sander's healthcare plan (Original Post) TexasBushwhacker Jan 2016 OP
Absolutely Thav Jan 2016 #1
And age based premiums discourage hiring older workers TexasBushwhacker Jan 2016 #3
They should be but won't be lostnfound Jan 2016 #2
That was my first thought when I read it over... TCJ70 Jan 2016 #4
And another thing TexasBushwhacker Jan 2016 #5
I wonder how GE would have fared loyalsister Jan 2016 #6
I'm sure they would like people to think that TexasBushwhacker Jan 2016 #8
His plan is fantastic. in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #7
I wanted to slap Andrea Mitchell TexasBushwhacker Jan 2016 #9


(946 posts)
1. Absolutely
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 11:19 PM
Jan 2016

Benefits is one thing that makes me nervous about hiring people - I have no idea what these would cost. If we had single payer, I could easily predict how much it would cost me to hire someone.


(20,510 posts)
3. And age based premiums discourage hiring older workers
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 11:25 PM
Jan 2016

Which is just so unfair. But someone who is over 60 costs us over $1000 a month but someone 40 and under is $400 or less. It also means that people work part time will be covered as well. And none of this scheduling workers 29 hours a week to get out of offering them health insurance. That is BULLSHIT. Everyone us covered - PERIOD.


(16,313 posts)
2. They should be but won't be
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 11:23 PM
Jan 2016

I assume that Their boards and their execs won't personally benefit because there's too much commonality in boardrooms and stock portfolios, and because they enjoy special perk healthcare that's a big cut above. If we move to single payer, it's harder to justify those special plans. And they are all tied in to the same lobby groups like Club for Growth that lobbies for corporate gains.


(20,510 posts)
5. And another thing
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 11:38 PM
Jan 2016

You know how you sometimes drive past an old building being torn down and find out it's being replaced by something similar, like an old hotel being torn down to be replaced by another hotel? We might have loved that old hotel (or house or apartment) but what we didn't know that it had asbestos, or lead paint. We didn't know that the size and floorplans were antiquated. We didn't know that it wasn't energy efficient or that it had foundation problems.

Sometimes you can remodel, but sometimes it's just more efficient and cost effective to start all over. The ACA was, as Joe Biden said, a BFD. But there are still too many who don't have insurance or the insurance they have still breaks them with deductibles, copays and denial of payment. We tried to work WITH the health insurance companies, big pharma and for profit hospital chains. It's time that we quit paying so much and getting so little.


(20,510 posts)
8. I'm sure they would like people to think that
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:11 AM
Jan 2016

instead of admitting that they loaded themselves up with too much debt.


(41,600 posts)
7. His plan is fantastic.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 11:51 PM
Jan 2016

It's a win-win for the middle class and small businesses....the people who actually NEED the help.



(20,510 posts)
9. I wanted to slap Andrea Mitchell
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:14 AM
Jan 2016

Bernie's tax increases are not on the middle class. They don't even kck in until taxable income is over $250K. Median income in the US is $51K. $250K may not stretch as far in Manhattan or San Francisco, but it is NOT muddle class!

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