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left-of-center2012

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There are thousands of PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2018 #1
"near-death accounts" left-of-center2012 Aug 2018 #2
There are quite a few books on this topic out there. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2018 #3
Raymond Moody left-of-center2012 Aug 2018 #5
Years ago my father d_r Aug 2018 #4
That's nothing Cartoonist Aug 2018 #6
Dreams when you're dead? left-of-center2012 Aug 2018 #7
Who died and lived to tell about it? Cartoonist Aug 2018 #8
You should hang out in the Religion group more often left-of-center2012 Aug 2018 #9
What you need to do is read PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2018 #12
They weren't completely dead. Cartoonist Aug 2018 #14
. 3Hotdogs Aug 2018 #10
huh ? left-of-center2012 Aug 2018 #11
I have to wonder if this was posted in the WRONG group. auntAgonist Oct 2018 #17
Why do you bring "masturbation" into this thread? left-of-center2012 Aug 2018 #13
I HOPE this post was made in error, perhaps intended for another group? auntAgonist Oct 2018 #18
there was a really cool show on tlc orleans Aug 2018 #15
It's also on YouTube left-of-center2012 Aug 2018 #16

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,746 posts)
1. There are thousands of
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 11:04 AM
Aug 2018

similar near-death accounts. It's very affecting to be told one in person.

Several years ago a young woman whom I had a similar casual encounter told me of her experience, which involved seeing her deceased grandmother and a deceased cousin.

In my mind, there is no mistaking that these are real.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
2. "near-death accounts"
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 11:16 AM
Aug 2018

I worked as a hospice nurse for a number of years and worked alongside some volunteers who had 'near death experiences'.

I've read a number of books on the subject, and the experiences of these volunteers on how they were affected afterwards were similar to what I read.
How it affected their marriage, goals, career choices, etc.

Most of the books I read were about adults in the U.S.

Then someone decided to do a study on children in India, and found out their NDEs were virtually similar to adults in America.
Except instead of seeing Jesus or 'God', they might see Buddha or Brahma.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,746 posts)
3. There are quite a few books on this topic out there.
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 11:50 AM
Aug 2018

I've actually been reading about "near death experiences" since the early 1960's, because they'd show up in various strange books about psychic phenomena. It was Raymond Moody who first codified the accounts and came up with Near Death Experience (or NDE) as a label.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
5. Raymond Moody
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 12:07 PM
Aug 2018

I think I read every book he wrote.
Surprising to me, the people I met who had NDEs say they'd not heard of him.

Let me add, except for the man on the bus, all the other people I met did not want to discuss their
experience, other than to say they had one, and how it had affected their life afterward.

It altered their life in a positive way.

d_r

(6,907 posts)
4. Years ago my father
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 12:00 PM
Aug 2018

was diagnosed with liver cancer. He was given three weeks to live. A few weeks later, it had been really bad. I was with him in the hospital. His heart stopped twice that night, both times they brought in the crash carts and brought him back with defibrillater. He started feeling better after that and got the chance to go back home for a while. We never told him about the crash carts or that he flat lined. He told me one day after he went home that back when he was at the hospital Jesus came to him and told him that he could go right now, and it would be easy and he would just slip away, or he could stay for just a little while longer but it would be hard. He said he thought of his wife and children and wanted to see them some more and decided to stay for a little while longer. He lived for three more months, and it was hard for him at the end. But there were good times during that three months and I think the choice was worth it for him.

Cartoonist

(7,298 posts)
6. That's nothing
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 12:17 PM
Aug 2018

I've had some spectacular dreams in my life. Especially the ones in which I can fly. That's all NDEs are. And yes, my dreams REALLY happened.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
7. Dreams when you're dead?
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 12:31 PM
Aug 2018

There are all types of non-believers.

Some will tell you the Moon landing was faked,
and the Earth is flat.

Cartoonist

(7,298 posts)
8. Who died and lived to tell about it?
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 12:44 PM
Aug 2018

Near death is not the same as death.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
9. You should hang out in the Religion group more often
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 12:48 PM
Aug 2018

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,746 posts)
12. What you need to do is read
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 02:02 PM
Aug 2018

more about NDEs. Many of those who report them WERE clinically dead. Completely flatlined. And then they came back.

Cartoonist

(7,298 posts)
14. They weren't completely dead.
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 04:05 PM
Aug 2018

Certainly not for a significant time, like let's say, 24 hours. Sorry.
I'm not a doctor so you can say my opinion is worthless if you want.

3Hotdogs

(12,207 posts)
10. .
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 01:40 PM
Aug 2018

Last edited Wed Aug 15, 2018, 02:34 PM - Edit history (1)

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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
11. huh ?
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 01:59 PM
Aug 2018

I'll never regain the brain cells destroyed by that.

auntAgonist

(17,252 posts)
17. I have to wonder if this was posted in the WRONG group.
Tue Oct 16, 2018, 08:36 AM
Oct 2018

I will watch and if I notice a pattern I will ban the user/commenter.


We enjoy a very close and caring community here.
We don't need no masturabatory threads in this here place <sic>

take care, one and all.

kesha

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
13. Why do you bring "masturbation" into this thread?
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 02:25 PM
Aug 2018

You can either believe or not believe in near death experiences.

But to use this thread to post about 'masturbation' seems really bizarre.

I'm not familiar with you or your posting history,
but I'm wondering if this is something you routinely do.

Hijack a thread and post about sex.

Sad.

In my humble opinion.

auntAgonist

(17,252 posts)
18. I HOPE this post was made in error, perhaps intended for another group?
Tue Oct 16, 2018, 08:38 AM
Oct 2018

I will watch and if I notice a pattern I will ban the user/commenter.


We enjoy a very close and caring community here.
We don't need no masturabatory threads in this here place <sic>

take care, one and all.

kesha

orleans

(33,986 posts)
15. there was a really cool show on tlc
Thu Aug 16, 2018, 02:22 AM
Aug 2018

(i think it was tlc) called beyond and back (i can't remember the exact title) but i loved it, watched it every week. it might have had 2 seasons. it's gone and i haven't been able to find much on it but it was absolutely fascinating. all about people's experiences with how they died and what happened or what they experienced during their death.

(i googled)
it was called "i survived...beyond and back"
https://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/i-survivedbeyond-and-back/348265/

i'm clicking on the videos on this; 2 seasons 21 episodes
i guess you can watch it on hulu

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
16. It's also on YouTube
Thu Aug 16, 2018, 09:22 AM
Aug 2018

Thanks for sharing.

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