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Mon Apr 15, 2019, 08:28 PM

I love Paris and this is a human tragedy. But

Ok ok. The stained glass, the statues, art, craftsmanship. Gottit. This thing was 11th century.

But


Why did "god" let his greatest cathedral burn?

Why do any churches burn? Ever?

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Reply I love Paris and this is a human tragedy. But (Original post)
lindysalsagal Apr 2019 OP
msongs Apr 2019 #1
shanny Apr 2019 #3
mobeau69 Apr 2019 #2
uriel1972 Apr 2019 #10
No Vested Interest Apr 2019 #11
trotsky Apr 2019 #14
Act_of_Reparation Apr 2019 #17
Mariana Apr 2019 #18
CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2019 #4
progressoid Apr 2019 #5
SCantiGOP Apr 2019 #6
Freelancer Apr 2019 #7
lindysalsagal Apr 2019 #9
RussBLib Apr 2019 #8
John1956PA Apr 2019 #12
Brainstormy Apr 2019 #13
lindysalsagal Apr 2019 #16
Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #15

Response to lindysalsagal (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 08:30 PM

1. maybe its an opportunity to rebuild bigger and better nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 08:37 PM

3. If they decided to build a better Church,

 

as opposed to a better cathedral, I'd be OK with that.

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Response to lindysalsagal (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 08:35 PM

2. And I thought trump's comments would be the worst I'd see today.

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Response to mobeau69 (Reply #2)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 01:16 AM

10. What is so bad about the question?

It goes to the heart of the matter of religion.

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Response to mobeau69 (Reply #2)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 02:31 AM

11. Agree, mobeau.....

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Response to mobeau69 (Reply #2)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 12:30 PM

14. Really? "The worst"?

For asking a very simple question?

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Response to mobeau69 (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 10:41 AM

17. OH MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS ME

Someone questioned the existence of an intercessory deity! What's next? Young people having sex???? It'll be ANARCHY!!!!!!!

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Response to mobeau69 (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 03:56 PM

18. Yes, yes, we know how privileged you are.

Since you felt such a pressing need to invade this safe haven group to criticize one of its participants, the least you could do is answer the question.

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Response to lindysalsagal (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 08:51 PM

4. There is no god, and no god ordains any human activity. n/t

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Response to lindysalsagal (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 09:13 PM

5. Jerusalem's Al-Aqsa Mosque Fire Burns at the Same Time As Flames Engulf Notre Dame Cathedral


This is gonna blow the minds of some conspiracy inclined religionists.


https://www.newsweek.com/notre-dame-fire-aqsa-mosque-1397259

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Response to lindysalsagal (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 09:35 PM

6. In the 18th and 19th century

It was difficult to get churches to install lightening rods. And since the church spire was normally the highest point in town, an inordinate number of churches were struck and burned.
Reason finally overcame those who saw the lightening as divine judgments on the church for, well, not being churchy enough.

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Response to lindysalsagal (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 10:57 PM

7. It ain't personal. It's only physics. -nt

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Response to Freelancer (Reply #7)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 01:01 AM

9. Thank you. It's nostalgia, nothing more.

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Response to lindysalsagal (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 11:16 PM

8. I'd have been more upset if the Eiffel Tower had fallen

Notre Dame is like so many other churches: some nice architecture, some decent art, but full of silly people doing silly things.

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Response to lindysalsagal (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 04:44 AM

12. A 1984 fire at England's York catherdral "sparked" a similar discussion.

From https://www.upi.com/Archives/1984/07/09/A-fire-believed-to-have-been-sparked-by-lightning/1100458193600/ :


YORK, England -- A fire believed to have been sparked by lightning gutted part of the medieval York cathedral, causing $1.3 million in damage, but firefighters and priests braved flames to save the Gothic church's 13th century masterpieces.

The fire came just days after the controversial Rev. David Jenkins was consecrated as bishop of Durham in the York Minister.

Jenkins triggered an uproar when he publicly questioned Anglican church belief in the virgin birth, miracles performed by Jesus Christ and Christ's resurrection. Rev. John Mole, a vicar who shouted protests during Friday's consecration ceremonies, said he thought the wrath of God may be behind the fire that erupted early Monday in the 13th-century gothic church.

The Archbishop of Cantebury, Robert Runcie, warned that "individuals should be careful in declaring divine intervention."



From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/York_Minster :


On 9 July 1984, a fire considered "likely" to have been caused by a lightning strike destroyed the roof in the south transept, and around 2.5 million was spent on repairs. The fire was photographed from just south of the minster in the early hours. This picture was subsequently published[citation needed] showing the South transept alight with a list of North Yorkshire firefighters attending. The stations attending ranged from Scarborough to Harrogate. Huge amounts of water were needed to provide jets at great height to hit the roof timbers and protect the Rose Window. Most of the water was pumped from the Ouse nearby because the water supplies around the minster were inadequate. Fire crews from the main York fire station in Clifford Street worked hard to protect the Rose Window and stop the fire spreading into the tower and organ. Many crews worked for hours and some were on high levels of the minster at the time when the South transept roof fell in, forming a pile of timber covering the whole of the south transept floor to a height of at least six feet. The restoration work was completed in 1988, and included new roof bosses to designs which had won a competition organised by BBC Television's Blue Peter programme. In 2007 renovation began on the east front, including the Great East Window, at an estimated cost of 23 million.



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Response to lindysalsagal (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 10:31 AM

13. because it was Holy Week and

God takes the whole week off?

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Response to Brainstormy (Reply #13)

Wed Apr 17, 2019, 12:25 AM

16. Rim shot.

Thread winner.

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Response to lindysalsagal (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 04:40 PM

15. Ask Pascal. Clearly they've chosen the wrong god(s).

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