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beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 03:29 AM Sep 2015

Ken Ham accuses Bill Nye of telling women what to do with their bodies

Outstanding rant in support of women's reproductive rights by Dan Arel:

Ken Ham accuses Bill Nye of telling women what to do with their bodies
September 28, 2015 by Dan Arel



If you look up the word hypocrisy in the dictionary, it should now have a link to Ken Ham’s latest blog post in which the creationist who calls abortion murder, accuses Bill Nye of telling women what to do with their bodies.

This weekend, science communicator Bill Nye, released a video on Big Think in which he said that anti-abortion advocates had no idea what they were talking about when it came to abortion.

“Many, many more hundreds of eggs are fertilized than become humans,” he says, because not all of those eggs will attach to a woman’s uterine wall and result in pregnancy. But if you’re going to hold that as a standard—that life begins at conception and any egg that’s fertilized has the same rights as an individual—well, “Whom do you sue? Whom do you throw in jail?” he asks. “Every woman who has had a fertilized egg pass through her? Every guy whose sperm has fertilized an egg and then it didn’t become a human?”


In the video, Nye argued that abortion was a woman’s choice and not one we should be forcing on them because of personally held beliefs or because of our own ignorance about what abortion is.

Of course, somehow, Ken Ham watched that video and thought Nye was telling women what to do.

To clarify: Ken Ham believes abortion is murder and believes we must stop all women from having one. He believes in laws that make abortions illegal. He literally tells women they should never have an abortion. Yes, he is doing exactly what he is accusing Nye of doing.

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Ken Ham may be a minority in many of his beliefs, but his outright willful ignorance when it comes to women’s rights and his blatant carelessness when it comes to fighting for laws that personally affect their bodies and not his own is dangerous.

Ken Ham is a villain, he is a horrible, moralless creature unworthy of even an ounce of human respect. Ham and others like him must have a light shined on them and we must ridicule their beliefs and ideologies. They don’t deserve to be respected and we should not afford them the pleasure.


http://www.patheos.com/blogs/danthropology/2015/09/ken-ham-accuses-bill-nye-of-telling-women-what-to-do-with-their-bodies/





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Ken Ham accuses Bill Nye of telling women what to do with their bodies (Original Post) beam me up scottie Sep 2015 OP
Remember the time he actually showed up to troll DU? Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #1
I must have missed that. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #2
It was a few years ago. I was on MIRT at the time, so I got to ban him at least once. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #3
ROFLMAO!!! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #4
When it was first posted, some of the "stop picking on faith" crowd were falling all over themselves Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #10
The stupid...it burns.... beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #13
BWAH HAHA HA trotsky Sep 2015 #6
I wanted to be on MIRT for the 2012 election troll influx. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #12
Pretty damn good in my opinion.. mountain grammy Sep 2015 #7
Thanks! Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #8
Did he go by his real name or did he make something up? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #9
I dont remember. Somehow we figured out it was, actually, him (or ham) Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #11
Haaaahahaha! progressoid Sep 2015 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Sep 2015 #5

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
3. It was a few years ago. I was on MIRT at the time, so I got to ban him at least once.
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 05:12 AM
Sep 2015

You motivated me to hunt it down, because it was around Christmas and I remember writing something about it called "I banned Ken Ham for Christmas" (this is what those memory cells are doing, which should be being used to remember to buy dog food. Sorry, pooch )

I posted it in meta, but i can still find it in my journal! Hmmm.

Here it is, from Dec. of 2012:



I think I have a new Christmas song

I banned Ken Ham for Christmas
I sent him his MIRT PPR
I banned Ken Ham for Christmas
I banned him, he wont get too far

Our Christmas feast was lacking
Our Pizza was looking quite bare
It needed some old time troll whacking
Some christmas Ham for MIRT to share

He wanted to give us the good news
How dinos and man got along
But I banned Ken Ham for Christmas
I called his shit silly and wrong.



Robert Hunter, i aint. Oh well, merry xmas everyone!


Edited to add: IIRC it was commentary (translation: open mockery) about this book which drew his ire or ired his drew or whatever.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
4. ROFLMAO!!!
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 05:32 AM
Sep 2015

O. M. G.

The combination of correctly identifying the dinosaurs while portraying them as peaceful herbivores is just SO wrong.

Who would mock something so seriose?



Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
10. When it was first posted, some of the "stop picking on faith" crowd were falling all over themselves
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 05:02 PM
Sep 2015

To argue "no, not fair, it's satire, no one actually thinks that" and the old chestnut "stop mocking teh DERPLY HERLD RELERGERS BERLERFS!"

But it's a page from Ham's book. For reals.

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2013/02/ken_ham_s_books_and_museums_creationist_empire_starts_to_crumble_as_we_celebrate.html

And then he showed up to defend it in person.

Course there's only so much 'debate' you can have with someone who doesnt accept the most basic tenets of evidence-based logic.

As you are well aware, my friend.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
13. The stupid...it burns....
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 05:24 PM
Sep 2015
Few have profited more from Darwin calumny and science denial than Ken Ham, an Australian-born, young-Earth creationist behind some of the most ambitious monuments to creationism in the United States. Ham rose to fame after successfully raising $27 million to build the Creation Museum in Kentucky, which tells the story of God’s creation of the Earth through pseudoscience and unforgettable dioramas (the highlight: a kid hanging out with a gentle raptor). According to Ham, dinosaurs and humans coexisted for a while. Dinosaurs shared the Garden of Eden with Adam and Eve, and humans may have saddled dinosaurs for transportation and long-distance travel. Pro-evolution scientists (i.e., all actual scientists), however, have obfuscated these undeniable truths with sinful lies and slander.





How can you debate with stupid?

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
12. I wanted to be on MIRT for the 2012 election troll influx.
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 05:05 PM
Sep 2015

No frikken way am I masochistic enough to subject myself to that for 2016, though

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
11. I dont remember. Somehow we figured out it was, actually, him (or ham)
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 05:03 PM
Sep 2015

But he had a few incarnations before he gave up IIRC.

Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #1)

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