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No Religion? Here Are 7 Types of Non-BelieversReligious labels help shore up identity. So what are some of the things non-believers can call themselves?
September 22, 2014
http://www.alternet.org/belief/no-religion-here-are-7-types-non-believers
Catholic, born-again, Reformed, Jew, Muslim, Shiite, Sunni, Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist...religions give people labels. The downside can be tribalism, an assumption that insiders are better than outsiders, that they merit more compassion, integrity and generosity or even that violence toward infidels is acceptable. But the upside is that religious or spiritual labels offer a way of defining who we are. They remind adherents that our moral sense and quest for meaning are core parts of what it means to be human. They make it easier to convey a subset of our deepest values to other people, and even to ourselves.
For those who have lost their religion or never had one, finding a label can feel important. It can be part of a healing process or, alternately, a way of declaring resistance to a dominant and oppressive paradigm. Finding the right combination of words can be a challenge though. For a label to fit it needs to resonate personally and also communicate what you want to say to the world. Words have definitions, connotations and history, and how people respond to your label will be affected by all three. What does it mean? What emotions does it evoke? Who are you identifying as your intellectual and spiritual forebears and your community? The differences may be subtle but they are important.
If, one way or another, youve left religion behind, and if youve been unsure what to call yourself, you might try on one of these
The article seemed fairly well written...and even allows for the rejection of any of the labels presented.
JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)so believers won't find your very existence offensive.
No thanks.
Julie
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)Mi padre considered Attila the Hun a flaming liberal. So, we do not discuss politics on visits. One of my cousins is a bible beating neaderthal tea party type. We know better than to discuss such issues in the same room.
There are many reasons, not all based on fear of exposure, for different terms.
JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)This reminds me of our state house candidate. We live in a red zone and she seems to think that if she runs a non-partisa race the Rethugs will like/vote for her. The fatal flaw in this plan is that " Democrat)" will next to her name on the ballot. Believe me, in the end, that's what matters to the people here in this red zone.
Same holds true for a religious zealot. You either hold their views or you are wrong.
Julie
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)Actually, it is not out of politeness to them that I avoid certain subjects. It is to keep the flotsam and jetsam, and misfired verbal shotgun shells from striking innocent bystanders. I don't want to get into a verbal altercation that would make them feel uncomfortable.
I do agree with you about zealots. And when my Tea Bagger coz asks me directly about some religious issue, I do not beat about the bush, but answer directly. Usually, my answer contains "two part fairy tale" and "hypocrisy" and and a quote from their "good book" that contradicts his stance. His response is usually red-faced, depending on the number of beers he finished earlier.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)They insist on flaunting their idiocy everywhere all the time. Why would I give a flying fuck if my atheism offends them?
Same with rightwing nutjobs - they insist on pushing their nonsense so I refuse to defer discussing my views.
mr blur
(7,753 posts)I'm happy to be an atheist, regardless of what anyone thinks of me. And I take that to incorporate "anti-theist".
Perhaps I'd feel differently if I lived in the US. Don't think so, though.
Iggo
(47,545 posts)Atheist.
That's it.
NeoGreen
(4,031 posts)...non-believers.
However, upon further contemplation, I think a potentially valid criticism of the article is that it seems to be written from a non-global perspective.
I would not be surprised to find a vast number of additional categories if you expanded the evaluation across the global community.
But on a side note, for my part, I detest the word "atheist".
It is dependent/derived from the state of believing.
I do not wish to be labeled as a "Non-Stamp Collector" (i.e. an Aphilatelist) by those crazy tiny-sticky-paper-hoarding philatelists!
I'll name my own ship, if you please.
I'm a g0d-d@med realist, a Gdrealist, if you must have a label, and piss-off if you don't like it.
Other that that I'm real quiet humble.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Egg-zactly
I believe I like Bach and Ballet..... and that it's about 7:45 PM.
I KNOW reality is what it is no matter what I assume, and so I veer toward science and reason. That includes a complete rejection of anything supernatural. That's where all my views on religion start.
CrispyQ
(36,437 posts)A woman said to me, "What a cute little butterfly!"
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)slaps her upside the head.
CrispyQ
(36,437 posts)AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)NeoGreen
(4,031 posts)...the term does have its "shock" value, and I do use it to great effect when I detect a faithers aura of superiority, greater knowledge and privilege suffusing to the surface. However, my beef is with the origin, and how it is reflecting off a state of theism. I feel that it was coined based on their terms so that they might have a chance to intellectually grasp the concept.
I prefer to use terms for non-belief that indicate not only do I reject their claim, but that their claim doesnt even merit a reference (e.g. Freethinker, Humanist and Realist).
I'm not a theist, I'm a Realist, or if you must, an Atheist.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts).....atheism is included in your realism. It's just a small part of it.
That's how it is for me.
NeoGreen
(4,031 posts)...I can definitely work with that.
uriel1972
(4,261 posts)If it isn't, guess what? I won't. If that makes me an atheist then so be it. I'll have another baby at the next BBQ.
onager
(9,356 posts)Cruel atheists who want all religion banned, and NICE atheists who tolerate other religions.
Right here...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017217373#post14
mr blur
(7,753 posts)RussBLib
(9,005 posts)I picked this one up from Freethought 2014 this past weekend in Nacogdoches, Texas. Has anyone read Jerry DeWitt's book "Hope After Faith"? I have added it to my list.
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)"If you value your thoughts, why do you speak them aloud?"
Because someone will attack them.