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onager

(9,356 posts)
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 09:57 PM Sep 2014

Getting an earful with the Virgin Mary...

Has anyone else ever heard this? I sure hadn't. Mysterious ways, indeed...

Possible mechanisms by which Mary could have remained virgo intacta have exercised the minds of theologians since the fourth century. During the Middle Ages, it was widely believed that Mary had conceived by being inseminated by the Holy Ghost through her ear, a belief that resulted in female ears being treated with the utmost modesty for a time.

An ear would hardly serve for the delivery. One possibility was that Jesus had exited Mary's womb through a sort of door in her abdomen. Statues of Mary with the whole Trinity snuggled behind an opening door in her belly were once popular objects of devotion. Characterised in this way Mary was known as the vierge ouvrante ("Opening Virgin&quot .


http://www.badnewsaboutchristianity.com/de0_mary.htm



Her EAR?

The "door in her abdomen" is pretty funny too. But that ear thing is really amazing. How could anyone have preached that with a straight face?
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Getting an earful with the Virgin Mary... (Original Post) onager Sep 2014 OP
I thought I had heard everything Curmudgeoness Sep 2014 #1
I guess God can do anything. AlbertCat Sep 2014 #15
I've never known a med school or nursing school student Warpy Sep 2014 #2
Interesting. bvf Sep 2014 #3
It's possible the blessed virgin was plumbed especially. LiberalAndProud Sep 2014 #6
LOL! "With God all things are possible." n/t. bvf Sep 2014 #7
I will say that I got over the virgin birth part long before LiberalAndProud Sep 2014 #4
But but but Curmudgeoness Sep 2014 #16
At the time, I thought that disposing of the virgin birth brought the message into sharper focus. LiberalAndProud Sep 2014 #17
Bwahahahaha. Curmudgeoness Sep 2014 #18
Damn Freud! and double entendres! LiberalAndProud Sep 2014 #19
When Gabriel told Mary he was only into aural Lordquinton Sep 2014 #5
God moves in mysterious ways... nt uriel1972 Sep 2014 #8
I grew up Catholic in the midwest JNelson6563 Sep 2014 #9
That is hilarious! frogmarch Sep 2014 #10
Never heard that one but nothing surprises me about religionistas, mr blur Sep 2014 #11
Brings a whole new meaning to Rainforestgoddess Sep 2014 #12
There is a Family Guy episode wavesofeuphoria Sep 2014 #13
I can't get past the mental image of the Holy Spirit inseminating Mary through her ear. deucemagnet Sep 2014 #14
It never even occurred to me to think of normal child birth... Silent3 Sep 2014 #20
"Most Offensive Song Ever" South Park Goblinmonger Sep 2014 #21
Here's another option. AtheistCrusader Sep 2014 #22

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
1. I thought I had heard everything
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 10:13 PM
Sep 2014

but this one is new to me. I guess God can do anything. I just assumed that he snapped his fingers and wished hard and created a fertilized egg....but that must have been too hard to believe, hence ear sex.

I won't even comment on the belly door. If that were true, I would think that we would have heard about that in the Bible---it is quite a big deal.

Warpy

(111,237 posts)
2. I've never known a med school or nursing school student
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 10:27 PM
Sep 2014

who didn't wish we'd evolved with zippers. Human childbirth is complicated as hell. It would have been so much easier on mother and baby if they could have simply been unzipped then Mom could be zipped back up, none the worse for wear and her hair and makeup perfect to receive all sorts of family.

I wonder why they didn't do then what they do now, just say it's a mystery (i.e. magic) and that it's sinful to speculate on mechanics.

And yeah, her EAR? How disappointing for Mary. Not only was it the wrong orifice, but apparently he fit into it.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
3. Interesting.
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 10:43 PM
Sep 2014

"But that ear thing is really amazing. How could anyone have preached that with a straight face?"

There are people who would buy into this today.



LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
6. It's possible the blessed virgin was plumbed especially.
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 01:54 AM
Sep 2014

Her ear canal was connected to her birth canal, maybe?

it couLD happen!

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
4. I will say that I got over the virgin birth part long before
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 11:02 PM
Sep 2014

I got rid of the rest of the religious baggage.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
16. But but but
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 09:42 PM
Sep 2014

wasn't that the most important part? Without the virgin birth, and insemination by the Holy Spirit, what have you got? Some teenagers who got in a little "trouble" before she got married and convinced some schmuck to marry her?

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
17. At the time, I thought that disposing of the virgin birth brought the message into sharper focus.
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 09:59 PM
Sep 2014

The sanctification and glorification of the least among us. Cherries*. Mmm-mmm good.



ETA: * Cherries, as in cherry-picking. I think I wasn't referring to the vernacular term for, you know, virginity.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
18. Bwahahahaha.
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 10:26 PM
Sep 2014

Yes, that edit was necessary.

But you are not alone in picking cherries. Every religious person I have discussed religion with has that same job.

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
9. I grew up Catholic in the midwest
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 09:37 AM
Sep 2014

And I never heard of such a bizarre thing! That's quite something!

Julie

 

mr blur

(7,753 posts)
11. Never heard that one but nothing surprises me about religionistas,
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 10:11 AM
Sep 2014

Not at all surprised by the idea of them trying to produce a "realistic" explanation of how a virgin could have got pregnant and given birth without using her "naughty bits".

I was going to say that it's as ridiculous as learned Greeks working out exactly how Zeus was able to transmute into a swan but in fact it's more ridiculous: the Greeks would just have accepted that he could do it.

wavesofeuphoria

(525 posts)
13. There is a Family Guy episode
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 02:55 PM
Sep 2014

in which a big abstinence/purity craze is brought upon the high school ... so to remain pure, kids were engaging in ear sex ... who knew there was some basis for it

deucemagnet

(4,549 posts)
14. I can't get past the mental image of the Holy Spirit inseminating Mary through her ear.
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 03:22 PM
Sep 2014

Ow! Stop it! Ow! Stop it! Ow! Stop it! Ow! Stop it!

Silent3

(15,190 posts)
20. It never even occurred to me to think of normal child birth...
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 11:36 AM
Sep 2014

Last edited Sun Sep 14, 2014, 05:35 PM - Edit history (2)

...as something that would constitute a loss of virginity -- the birth part, in and of itself -- and then people coming up with bizarre ideas like wombs with doors to satisfy their doctrinal needs. A baby seems more to me like strong evidence (under normal, non-supernatural circumstances, i.e., reality) of previous loss of virginity, a symptom, not a cause.

To the extent that virginity even matters, does anyone normally think of it being anything other penis-in-vagina sex that ends heterosexual virginity? A baby exiting a vagina ends virginity as much as a penis going in?

Because impregnation via turkey baster probably wouldn't inspire much religious awe, I guess there have to be special rules about this.

If human parthenogenesis ever happened, I'd consider that a possible non-supernatural virgin birth, without the need for doors or C-sections.

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
21. "Most Offensive Song Ever" South Park
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 08:48 PM
Sep 2014

If you haven't heard this one, see if there is still a version up on YouTube (South Park pulls things pretty quickly). And if you do hear it (or can't), you'll need the lyrics.

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