Atheists & Agnostics
Related: About this forumGetting an earful with the Virgin Mary...
Has anyone else ever heard this? I sure hadn't. Mysterious ways, indeed...
An ear would hardly serve for the delivery. One possibility was that Jesus had exited Mary's womb through a sort of door in her abdomen. Statues of Mary with the whole Trinity snuggled behind an opening door in her belly were once popular objects of devotion. Characterised in this way Mary was known as the vierge ouvrante ("Opening Virgin" .
http://www.badnewsaboutchristianity.com/de0_mary.htm
Her EAR?
The "door in her abdomen" is pretty funny too. But that ear thing is really amazing. How could anyone have preached that with a straight face?
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)but this one is new to me. I guess God can do anything. I just assumed that he snapped his fingers and wished hard and created a fertilized egg....but that must have been too hard to believe, hence ear sex.
I won't even comment on the belly door. If that were true, I would think that we would have heard about that in the Bible---it is quite a big deal.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)He musta asked Zeus for advice.
Warpy
(111,237 posts)who didn't wish we'd evolved with zippers. Human childbirth is complicated as hell. It would have been so much easier on mother and baby if they could have simply been unzipped then Mom could be zipped back up, none the worse for wear and her hair and makeup perfect to receive all sorts of family.
I wonder why they didn't do then what they do now, just say it's a mystery (i.e. magic) and that it's sinful to speculate on mechanics.
And yeah, her EAR? How disappointing for Mary. Not only was it the wrong orifice, but apparently he fit into it.
bvf
(6,604 posts)"But that ear thing is really amazing. How could anyone have preached that with a straight face?"
There are people who would buy into this today.
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)Her ear canal was connected to her birth canal, maybe?
it couLD happen!
bvf
(6,604 posts)LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)I got rid of the rest of the religious baggage.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)wasn't that the most important part? Without the virgin birth, and insemination by the Holy Spirit, what have you got? Some teenagers who got in a little "trouble" before she got married and convinced some schmuck to marry her?
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)The sanctification and glorification of the least among us. Cherries*. Mmm-mmm good.
ETA: * Cherries, as in cherry-picking. I think I wasn't referring to the vernacular term for, you know, virginity.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)Yes, that edit was necessary.
But you are not alone in picking cherries. Every religious person I have discussed religion with has that same job.
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)And yes. I didn't notice my cognitive dissonance, until it stopped.
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)she thought he meant something else.
uriel1972
(4,261 posts)JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)And I never heard of such a bizarre thing! That's quite something!
Julie
frogmarch
(12,153 posts)I wish I had one of those statues.
mr blur
(7,753 posts)Not at all surprised by the idea of them trying to produce a "realistic" explanation of how a virgin could have got pregnant and given birth without using her "naughty bits".
I was going to say that it's as ridiculous as learned Greeks working out exactly how Zeus was able to transmute into a swan but in fact it's more ridiculous: the Greeks would just have accepted that he could do it.
Rainforestgoddess
(436 posts)Fucked in the head.
wavesofeuphoria
(525 posts)in which a big abstinence/purity craze is brought upon the high school ... so to remain pure, kids were engaging in ear sex ... who knew there was some basis for it
deucemagnet
(4,549 posts)Ow! Stop it! Ow! Stop it! Ow! Stop it! Ow! Stop it!
Silent3
(15,190 posts)Last edited Sun Sep 14, 2014, 05:35 PM - Edit history (2)
...as something that would constitute a loss of virginity -- the birth part, in and of itself -- and then people coming up with bizarre ideas like wombs with doors to satisfy their doctrinal needs. A baby seems more to me like strong evidence (under normal, non-supernatural circumstances, i.e., reality) of previous loss of virginity, a symptom, not a cause.
To the extent that virginity even matters, does anyone normally think of it being anything other penis-in-vagina sex that ends heterosexual virginity? A baby exiting a vagina ends virginity as much as a penis going in?
Because impregnation via turkey baster probably wouldn't inspire much religious awe, I guess there have to be special rules about this.
If human parthenogenesis ever happened, I'd consider that a possible non-supernatural virgin birth, without the need for doors or C-sections.
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)If you haven't heard this one, see if there is still a version up on YouTube (South Park pulls things pretty quickly). And if you do hear it (or can't), you'll need the lyrics.