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onager

(9,356 posts)
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 10:14 PM Apr 2013

Amazing Grave

Tombstone of "Hogan's Heroes" star Bob Crane, Westwood Village, (Los Angeles) California. From the always useful Find-A-Death website:

http://www.findadeath.com/

Look down there in the bottom right corner - a Darwin fish! And the word "Humanist." (Thanks to his second wife Patricia, a/k/a "Hilda" on Hogan's Heroes. She died in Oct. 2007.)

Crane's horrendous and still-unsolved murder was the basis of the 2002 movie "Auto-Focus," which is definitely worth watching.



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Amazing Grave (Original Post) onager Apr 2013 OP
I don't think I ever saw him on a list Warpy Apr 2013 #1
Not sure he was one of us. But she was! onager Apr 2013 #3
I'm going to add Auto Focus to my watch list. progressoid Apr 2013 #4
Beautiful! JNelson6563 Apr 2013 #2
Elegant! frogmarch Apr 2013 #5

Warpy

(111,123 posts)
1. I don't think I ever saw him on a list
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 12:34 AM
Apr 2013

of famous atheists/agnostics.

It's interesting to find out how many of us there are out there, even if we have to wait for some of us to die.

onager

(9,356 posts)
3. Not sure he was one of us. But she was!
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 12:00 PM
Apr 2013

The backstory, as they say in showbiz...

Crane's first wife was a devout Catholic, so I'd guess he was at least a nominal Catholic.

He was originally buried in a grave with a small marker, in the San Fernando Valley (Chatsworth).

His second wife Patricia had his body moved to Westwood and buried under the grave marker in the photo. (Hell, even dead, I couldn't afford to live in Westwood...)

Looking around the Web, Crane's "first family" was extremely pissed off about the move. And that headstone. More weirdness: one of Crane' s sons is not even mentioned on the headstone, but all his other kids are.

Antique Technology Fans: - if you get the DVD of "Auto Focus," it contains a short documentary called "Murder In Scottsdale." The docu goes into the bungling by the Scottsdale (AZ) cops when Crane was murdered. It's every bit as interesting as the movie.

frogmarch

(12,153 posts)
5. Elegant!
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 05:16 PM
Apr 2013

The "Wild Wheat" poem was apparently written by his wife Patricia, who was a humanist. At first I took the "Humanist" inscription to mean Bob Crane was a humanist. If he wasn't, maybe that's at least one reason why some of his family members objected to the stone.

I like the gravestone, and I like the poem too.

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