Thu Mar 28, 2013, 07:56 PM

If an Atheist is judged

By the actions of a few (Christopher Hitchens, misinterpretation of Dawkins, etc) then why is is not OK for Christians to be judged by the actions of, say Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron (though there are multitudes to choose from).

Just a thought that came to me in the shower.

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10 replies	Author	Time	Post
If an Atheist is judged (Original post)	Lordquinton	Mar 2013	OP
Because atheists were judged	skepticscott	Mar 2013	#1
The minority opinion is always stifled.	Curmudgeoness	Mar 2013	#2
that's a fact and a problem.	Phillip McCleod	Mar 2013	#3
We could probably all use more mountain top views	Curmudgeoness	Mar 2013	#4
end of the workaday and ima gonna tie one on.	Phillip McCleod	Mar 2013	#5
Just don't go baiting Christians while you are drunk. nt	Curmudgeoness	Mar 2013	#6
very good advice which i'd best keep in mind.	Phillip McCleod	Mar 2013	#7
When I think of possible bifurcation fallacies of Theist/Atheist subjects ...	Trajan	Mar 2013	#8
It was merely an example	Lordquinton	Mar 2013	#9
Because Comfort and Cameron aren't True Christians™, silly	Rob H.	Mar 2013	#10

Response to Lordquinton (Original post)

Thu Mar 28, 2013, 08:27 PM

skepticscott (13,029 posts)

1. Because atheists were judged

Before anyone ever heard of Dawkins or Hitchens...

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Response to Lordquinton (Original post)

Thu Mar 28, 2013, 08:35 PM

Curmudgeoness (18,219 posts)

2. The minority opinion is always stifled.

Besides that, it is easier to bully the minority than to pick fights with the majority.

It is a slow process to gain acceptable for a minority, so we have a long way to go.

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Response to Curmudgeoness (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 28, 2013, 11:55 PM

Phillip McCleod (1,837 posts)

3. that's a fact and a problem.

b/c i'm not feeling patient, again.

maybe i should meditate more. i find 'quiet mind' practice heps put things in perspective. like standing on a mountaintop or on the white cliffs of dover for a few minutes.

me 'n my big mouth.

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Response to Phillip McCleod (Reply #3)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 05:30 PM

Curmudgeoness (18,219 posts)

4. We could probably all use more mountain top views

and less religion discussions. Or we should just get drunk.

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Response to Curmudgeoness (Reply #4)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 05:35 PM

Phillip McCleod (1,837 posts)

5. end of the workaday and ima gonna tie one on.

i'll raise my glass to all you heathens on this terrible friday.

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Response to Phillip McCleod (Reply #5)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 05:43 PM

Curmudgeoness (18,219 posts)

6. Just don't go baiting Christians while you are drunk. nt

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Response to Curmudgeoness (Reply #6)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 09:19 PM

Phillip McCleod (1,837 posts)

7. very good advice which i'd best keep in mind.

it being 'good' friday n'all.

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Response to Lordquinton (Original post)

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 07:08 PM

Trajan (19,089 posts)

8. When I think of possible bifurcation fallacies of Theist/Atheist subjects ...

The false dilemma between Hitchens\Dawkins vs. Comfort\Cameron falls somewhere near last on my list .....

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Response to Trajan (Reply #8)

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 07:42 PM

Lordquinton (7,879 posts)

9. It was merely an example

I have seem many times "Well Dawkins said this, so I'm gonna assume all atheists are like it" and they then flip out when you say something like "Well, you claim you're a staunch catholic, so I'm gonna question your views on x" you're being bigoted.

I was thinking the specific Dawkins/Comfort duality because both are taken out of context, and neither represent all Atheists/Christians. Kinda pointing out how silly it would be for them to say "Well, I heard Dawkins said X so all atheists are assholes" (not quite an actual quote) Maybe if they got compared in an equally bizarre manner it would seep in.

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Response to Lordquinton (Original post)

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 09:59 PM

Rob H. (5,051 posts)

10. Because Comfort and Cameron aren't True Christians™, silly

Nevermind that Pat Robertson, (the late) Jerry Falwell, Ted Haggard, Fred Phelps, John Hagee, etc., read the same bible and believe in the same god liberal believers do.

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