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Mosby

(16,257 posts)
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 03:27 PM Dec 2013

Photos of the quenelle (new anti-Semitic gesture)

Last edited Mon Dec 30, 2013, 09:54 PM - Edit history (3)


Quenelle at the Western Wall in Jerusalem



Quenelle in front of an Anne Frank poster



Quenelle at Auschwitz



Quenelle at the Jewish school in France where three Jewish children and a Rabbi were murdered in 2012


Many more pics:
http://k00ls.overblog.com/2013/12/pour-ceux-qui-pr%C3%A9tendent-que-la-quenelle-n-est-pas-un-geste-antis%C3%A9mite.html


Quasi-Nazi salute popular in France
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024240928
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Photos of the quenelle (new anti-Semitic gesture) (Original Post) Mosby Dec 2013 OP
Upstairs I have seen people denying it is an antisemitic gesture, King_David Dec 2013 #1
There are those who love to deny anti-Semitism. Behind the Aegis Dec 2013 #2
That's just ismnotwasm Jan 2014 #3
It started in France, where expression of hate against a group is illegal question everything Jan 2014 #4
At the Wall ........ meti57b Jan 2014 #5
could be - its a small pic Mosby Jan 2014 #6
Well still, the pics are informative as to what is on their bigoted, small minds. meti57b Jan 2014 #7
That gesture started by a French comedian who "calimed" that he was not anti-Semite question everything Jan 2014 #8

Behind the Aegis

(53,919 posts)
2. There are those who love to deny anti-Semitism.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 04:12 AM
Dec 2013

It ranges from the absurd, but there are more important things, to the quasi-intellectual, Arabs are Semites too; the only thing they both have in common is a disdain for exposing anti-Semitism for what it really is, a thriving bigotry celebrated all over the world by extremists from all sides of the political spectrum.

question everything

(47,431 posts)
4. It started in France, where expression of hate against a group is illegal
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 01:58 PM
Jan 2014

That people use in in Auschwitz, in front of synagogues and other Jewish places says something. As I told someone - if a gesture and a phrase start spreading and are used as an expression of hate - that it is an expression of hate.

Still surprised at the Western Wall photo..

meti57b

(3,584 posts)
5. At the Wall ........
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 03:40 PM
Jan 2014

Is he possibly photo-shopped into the picture? For the most part, shadows appear directly under the object. For him, his shadow is somewhat behind him. Although they are all wearing black and white, ..... he still seems more colorful than the rest of the photograph. He also appears more in focus than the man in black and the chairs at the right side of the picture.

Mosby

(16,257 posts)
6. could be - its a small pic
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 05:41 PM
Jan 2014

Maybe he photoshopped himself into the pic of the kotel, all the photos at the link are uploaded by the "owners" of the pictures.

meti57b

(3,584 posts)
7. Well still, the pics are informative as to what is on their bigoted, small minds.
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 07:27 PM
Jan 2014

The other two pics may be shopped, also, .... showing that they were not only too chicken-hearted, but also too cheapskate to actually go to those locations.

question everything

(47,431 posts)
8. That gesture started by a French comedian who "calimed" that he was not anti-Semite
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 10:44 PM
Jan 2014

Here is a report from today's WSJ:

France Faces Court Test Over Free-Speech Case

(snip)

The government this week ordered concert halls across France to cancel shows to be performed by Dieudonné M'bala M'bala on the grounds that he represents a threat to public order. "People who attend these shows know perfectly they are political gatherings aimed at peddling hate, anti-Semitism and hate of the Jews," French Interior Minister Manuel Valls said Tuesday, after ordering the ban.

(snip)

The showdown is testing France's long-standing approach of criminalizing hate speech. Contrary to the U.S., where many forms of hate speech are protected by the First Amendment, such acts as denying the Holocaust or inciting racism are crimes in France and punishable by fines, or even prison time.

(snip)

Dieudonné started as a comic in the 1990s, often performing in a duo with a Jewish teenage-hood friend, Elie Semoun. Over the past decade, he drifted toward more politicized shows and appeared less on mainstream media. In 2009, he made a failed bid for a seat in the European Parliament, running under the banner of an anti-Zionist List and garnering a tiny share of the votes.

The latest controversy began last month, when state television channel France 2 broadcast footage captured by a hidden camera and showing Dieudonné commenting about French-Jewish radio anchor Patrick Cohen during a private performance. "Me, you see, when I hear Patrick Cohen speak, I think to myself: 'Gas chambers…too bad," the comedian was showed saying on stage. Dieudonné's lawyers don't dispute the video's veracity.

More..

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304347904579308710662277206

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