Re: Ascension....can one be lost between 3rd & 5th dimension?

[southerncrone]

I keep seeing more & more concerning some people "staying" in the 3rd dimension, while others ascend to the 5th. I don't feel like I'm in either group right now. What about the 4th dimension...is it like purgatory, a plateau where one can ascend later to the 5th?

Appreciate anyone who might be able to steer me toward some answers on this, or enlighten me. Thanks in advance.

[OneGrassRoot]

1. I don't know, but I think it's a great question...

I feel I'm in purgatory, too.

[get the red out]

2. I just wish I could believe in Ascension

I just can't do it somehow. I think it's a wonderful idea, and a great goal to strive for, but find myself thinking it will end up with little actually changing except in baby steps for humans in general achieved by having people gradually waking up and speaking out about all the wrongs that are going on. But changing dimensions? I wish I could believe, guess my ascension agnosticism makes me a 3rd for good if it happens, oh well.

[Why Syzygy]

3. Same

I can't either, GTRO. I do believe we are at the end of a Kali Yuga. If someone wants to refer to a changing of the Ages as "ascension", that might be a valid use of the term. But that's not how all the channeled messages have been using it. My only wish for the ascension teaching and followers is that they don't use it as a distraction, when we need them in the here and now to, with us, address the great problems we face.

[OneGrassRoot]

4. Very well said.

Regardless of what the truth is (whatever "truth" even is, as that is another thing that seems so subjective in our world), I don't feel connected or in alignment with anything, be it a "dimension," belief system, whatever.

But what you said -- "My only wish for the ascension teaching and followers is that they don't use it as a distraction, when we need them in the here and now to, with us, address the great problems we face." -- is something I resonate with very strongly.

[Why Syzygy]

12. Thanks, OGR

I can only post from my own experience. When I was a teenager our church group studied "The Late Great Planet Earth". If someone believes that book, and there was no reason I wouldn't, we were going to be all done by 1988 (rapture, etc.). Tell the teenager I was she has less than 20 years to live on earth, and I failed to plan a future. What's the point!? That kind of thing. When 1988 rolled around, in my 3rd decade, I went back to those teachings, reading every viewpoint I could find, and came to my own conclusion about those matters. Ain't happening.

I didn't mean to infer that ascension believers are slackers And I know you didn't read it that way.

[magical thyme]

5. agreed here too.

As tempting as it is to hope to go to another dimension and leave behind the jerks...er, the non-ascended....I think it's too easy and pat a belief.

Either way, I have my assignment from the universe and it requires that I remain in 3 dimensions...

[kimmerspixelated]

6. Great discussion.

It may all be colored by our perception more than anything else.

I do think there is a slight possibility that there might be earth changes coming that change the magnetic field in a more dramatic way than what we see presently, and this may speed up our perception of ascensions or dimensions.

I know that I am so much more able to really stand back and see the big picture , more than ever before, and it surprises me.

Might not have anything to do with dimensions, but it sure helps in general.

[kimmerspixelated]

7. This might also help.

http://www.heartmath.org/free-services/articles-of-the-heart/experience-the-planetary-shift.html

[Fire Walk With Me]

8. There is an -enormous- difference between the 3rd and 5th vibrational dimensions.

The most obvious being the transition into the basis of Love and Inclusion and Interdependency (4th Dimension). The 5th among other things is of Genius, tapping libraries of information via the etheric body and 3rd eye (read: "downloading&quot . Also much loss of "time" and more of "being". Responsibility versus conformity. Joy versus domination.

I'm not sure that staying in the 3rd vibrational dimension is a good idea at and beyond this time.

[southerncrone]

9. Thank you for this info!

Where did you get it & where can I find more?

Seems like since 9/11, Katrina, Haiti, & the many other human tragedies of late, we are moving into the 4th D. I see more inclusion & interdependency emerging, often thru necessity, but it is happening.

Now, for 5th D...I know genius is no where in my picture, but I do seem to have "downloading" of info quite often now. I loose so much "time" it has become frightening! Have been "being" instead of "doing" for over a yr now since I retired, but feel that may not be such a positive thing since it makes me feel stagnant & lazy . Been too responsible ALL my life & conformity is not my path either. Have felt the need for focusing on joy over all else these last few months.

Some of the "downloaded info" involves detaching from others who have been dependent on me. Sort of a "free to be me" vibe, while others need to find their own way w/o me. Basically, everyone on the planet needs to grow up & be responsible for themselves (except kids & infirm). Yet I often find I am not in all that of a "loving" place; sometimes I'm just an a$$, a selfish one, at that.

So, back to my original question. Where do you think I am?
Can one be "in transition" between the D's, or one foot in one D & the other foot in another D?

Perhaps I should just not worry about it & carry on.....

[Fire Walk With Me]

11. If you are aware of ever more directly creating your own reality

you are entering the new world. Or if you are already aware of this and are in a safe place of entirely similar and complimentary people.

[southerncrone]

13. Not sure about the entirely similar & complimentary people....

[findrskeep]

17. IMHO you are definitely accessing

the 5th dimension S.C.! The "losing time, downloading info, just being, letting go, detaching, focusing and feeling joy, being in a loving place" etc. All of those things are attributes of the 5th dimension. So yes, Carry on!! lol.

ps. Also, I totally think many of us have one foot in one dimension and one in another. And as I posted earlier, popping in and out of dimensions is happening too!

[magical thyme]

14. thank you for this, FWWM

I always get a little confused by discussions of 3,4 and 5D. First, there the physics reality of 3-D, and the addition of time to make 4-D. And then, for a long time people were talking about ascension as a physical thing...ie our dna would change, speculating whether people would be able to "fly," would we inhabit the "same earth" as 3-D people, etc. It got really flaky sounding, like waiting for the Rapture.

I'd read your description (or similar things to it) here before, but I don't always remember it that way. By your description, I've been living in 4D like a fish out of water my entire life. It was why I was such a "misfit" in my own family, as well as pretty much every where else.

I've recently felt myself giving up on 4-D, in a "I'll never fit in" and I can't "get them to understand" kind of way. Plus, I'm tired of always feeling misunderstood, which is why I keep so much to myself. I've stopped trying to be cooperative because it only attracts abuse. Maybe its time for 4D people to leave that space, to open it for 3D people to move into it.

But I'm not yet in 5D. More in limbo. No place to go yet; no place I belong yet. No people around who complement my state of being. I feel more isolated than ever, in fact, with the failure at this job and work environment.

Nature abhors a vacuum, however, and in my emptiness I seem to attract the opposite of what I am. Most recently, my neighbor across the street has suddenly decided to become "friendly." This is not a good thing. He is a strictly 3D person, and that's almost a compliment. Last week I came home from work and found a dog tie on my front steps. Then discovered my lawn had been mowed. He decided -- without my request, permission or knowledge -- to do me a "favor." In the process, he ran over and destroyed both my dog tie-outs (something I use only short term for convenience, so I can do a quick chore without having to watch them every minute). He's creepy and I don't want him coming over. So now I'm using the back entrance to avoid him. I barely got rid of one creep and another has materialized to take his place. I'd like to believe he shifted into 4D, but no way. Creepy, creepy, creepy aura.

I have been able to materialize my needs off and on many times over the years, but lately not so much. I recently lost my dogs' floating frisbee at our lake. A couple days later, a brand-new looking "Cesar Milan" frisbee turned up at our lake. I threw it in the water...and it sank like a stone. That's how everything feels this week. Not quite functional.

[kimmerspixelated]

15. Other than the creepy guy part..

I can totally relate to what you're saying.

in limbo. No place to go yet; no place I belong yet. No people around who complement my state of being. I feel more isolated than ever,

Yes I feel different shades of this same claim.

[southerncrone]

10. Wow! I'm so surprised how many of you seem to be in the same confusion as me on this.

I almost didn't post this because I felt it was something everyone else here had a firm grasp on & it was just part of MY inadequacy!

I keep wondering if it is just a matter of terminology differences, or if I'm just not "there" yet. Sometimes I feel like an infant in this journey. Feel sure we will all arrive at different intervals, but my linear thinking imagines it like a train station w/people coming and going in groups, yet individually.

It's comforting to know y'all are on this path WITH me!

[findrskeep]

16. I think we're all popping in and out of dimensions

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right now. And when I feel like I'm in limbo or aren't in either dimension, it's usually a time of needing to release yet some more old emotional baggage in order to let more light in. It seems like this is the way it's been happening with me for a while and also for many of my clients. The trick is not to attach in any way to whatever you are feeling (comes up) when you are in that limbo space, or not feeling like you're in either dimension. I think when you find yourself in that space, it's helpful to ASK (we always forget to ask!) for whatever we need to let go of, to leave as easily and gracefully as possible and thank it for what it taught you. But whatever you do, when it comes up, don't attach to it..just observe it and watch it leave. After a release, this is when I really notice that I am in a higher dimension and experience a huge opening and influx of light, information, joy, love etc. and I have NO doubt that all of this is real!

Another thing to try is to ask 'Is this mine?" You'll be surprised at how often you might be feeling low, depressed, sad etc. and it's not even your stuff!! (It works amazingly with physical pain too). Another thing that really raises your vibration FAST and will sometimes propel you into a higher frequency and/or dimension, is to hold both hands, one on top of the other, over your heart chakra and while doing say, think of all the things for which you have gratitude. I think this technique came from Tom Kenyon and the Hathors..I've never found anything that works so quickly to raise your vibration.

Some more information I've been getting which can only be described as a download, (it's like one minute I don't know something, and a split second later I have this huge pool of knowledge in my head from start to finish that I never even had a thought about!) Crazy but very cool too. I've received information that the realities/dimensions are already splitting, and really anyone paying attention probably suspects this with all the polarity we've been seeing for quite some time now. But the message I got awhile back was that it was going to be very subtle, no bells, fireworks, newsflashes etc. Just one day we will go, "Wait a minute, something is totally different, I'm not dealing with the same crap anymore, the same negative people, situations etc." It's already happening, but many of us just haven't noticed yet.

I wouldn't worry about staying in 3D verses 5D. I think if you are aware of what's going on, you'll be participating. But to be sure, keep on working on letting go of past emotional trauma, situations, people, things that no longer serve you in the highest. This enables us to hold more light. We're being supported in so many ways, and astrologically we're all purging and releasing (another reason to make sure if you're feeling low to ask if it's yours, because there's a lot of energetic crud flying around out there!)

[Bluestar]

18. Thank you, Findrskeep

I needed this today!

[southerncrone]

19. Wow! Super advise, thanks finderskeep!!!

I'm experiencing those downloads exactly the same way. One minute I have no knowledge of something & then suddenly I see something very clearly, "even tho I hadn't even thought about it before"! It is cool. However, somewhat confusing at times.

I especially like the hands over heart technique, can't wait to try it.
THANKS!!

[kimmerspixelated]

20. Finderskeep!

My vibration was a rising just reading your response! Can't wait to read it again.

[sandyshoes17]

21. Thank you findrskerp

That was great. About 2 weeks ago I subscribed to Jim self podcast on I Tunes. I am loving it he explains all of this and it makes sense to me. I went to the website and found it very confusing, but the podcasts are great, it has helped alot.

[southerncrone]

22. Jim Self is amazing!

He helps me a lot, too. He certainly resonates w/me.

[get the red out]

23. THAT makes sense in my jumbled skull

Thank you!

There is some past trauma that I belive I have been fighting to let go of for a couple of years, not fighting myself but fighting a part of my life that has kept me mired in it. What you wrote helped me to see that, I just thought I was onery in not wanting to live my life there as others expect me to do.

I have had some subtle but literal dimensional shift experiences in my life, so that makes sense to me. I download stuff frequently as well, that feeling of having it coming in is like "whoosh" then you "know", it's just there! For me it tends to be accompanied by a tad bit of a roller coaster in my tummy feeling too, LOL.

[felix_numinous]

24. Great thread!

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I have been reading a cool book called 'frequency' , by Penney Peirce. She talks about tuning into your own home frequency and how to deal with environmental frequencies, and the range of vibes we pick up on and react to.

I don't have much time to spend on DU lately, I moved and my wifi is not the best....I MISS you guys!!!!!!

edited to correct authors last name

[sandyshoes17]

25. Thanks

I will have to check it out