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intaglio

(8,170 posts)
2. Hey, at least Jimmy's boys used the Aramaic and Syriac sources
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 11:21 AM
Feb 2013

and actually referred to several Hebraic sources.

And they used purty words

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
3. Liberal and moderate Christians who dismiss the KJV are missing the point.
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 11:22 AM
Feb 2013

In a revealed religion such as Christianity a god could, at any time, divinely guide a person or group of people to alter its message to the world. When the theology allows the god to do a "reboot" at any time (and particularly Christianity, which is build upon such a reboot), there is no mechanism by which one can truthfully say that another believer's beliefs are wrong.

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
4. 'there is no mechanism by which one can truthfully say that another believer's beliefs are wrong.'
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 11:52 AM
Feb 2013

Beliefs are always true
The problem comes in when they try to force others to believe as they do ........

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
7. All "one true faiths" are based on the same premise...
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 02:00 PM
Feb 2013

..."everyone before us got it wrong, here's what God really said."

They all allege previous incarnations of the faith were corrupted at some point, or that they lacked divine inspiration. Protestants make this argument against Catholics, Mormons make this argument against other Protestants, and Muslims make this argument about the other two Abrahamic religions.

You're absolutely right. Bringing up the issue of translations to a person who holds the KJV to be the absolute word of God is pointless, as he no doubt believes Jimmy's translators were guided by divine inspiration, and that every prior and previous translation was corrupted somehow.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
5. OMG, you got shots in at both literalists and progressive religionists! That's a twofer.
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 12:04 PM
Feb 2013

Better update your scorecard.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
12. I don't get my Christian faith from the King James version.
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 07:45 PM
Feb 2013

I never cared for that translation at all.

dimbear

(6,271 posts)
13. It's my fave for two reasons. First it has unicorns. Second it is the most important
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 07:54 PM
Feb 2013

as a literary influence. They knew how to write back then.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
14. That's a rather pedestrian criticism of scriptural authority.
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 08:10 PM
Feb 2013


The basic premise is that it cannot be 'true' because it can't be taken literally which ironically accepts the fairly recent fundamentalist view of scripture which has no scholarly support even at reputable conservative seminaries.

A much greater problem for the Church is not that we don't have a good idea what the original texts likely said, but

a) a deep schism between what scholarship has resolved and the clergy taught and what is rolled out to a rather uneducated laity

and

b) a few critical passages that because they undermine the revised theology of the young church, were significantly added or altered.

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