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Tue Jul 10, 2012, 05:04 PM

 

Anti-Indians-Blacks-Muslims-Gays- (etc.) Guy Wants Mandatory Church Attendance or ‘Atheists' Tax'

July 9, 2012
By Gale Courey Toensing

Here’s the latest suggestion from Bryan Fischer, the omni-bigot who made hate-mongering remarks about the Indigenous Peoples of Turtle Island, African Americans, Muslims, gays, grizzly bears and Mormons: The government should use health care reform to mandate that everyone attend church and to impose a tax those who don’t.

Fischer, the director of the American Family Association (AFA) and an icon (no pun intended) of the Christian right, laid out his plan for improved health through enforced church attendance on his Focal Point radio talk show July 5. Inspired by a listener’s comment, Fischer noted that he often speaks on his program about how “people who have an active, vibrant spiritual life are healthier.” Then he makes a leap – not a leap of faith, a leap of logic. It goes like this: Because having an active and vibrant spiritual life is good for people’s health, the government ought to force people to go to church or pay the consequences – a special “atheists’ tax.”

“We oughta have an individual mandate from the government that everybody has to go to church because after all Obamacare is all about improving the health of the American people,” Fischer says, taking a jab at the Affordable Care Act. “We know that going to church is good for you, it’s good for your health so we are going to mandate that you go to church for your own health and we are going to tax the atheists who don’t go to church. Now we can’t make you go to church but we’re going to penalize you if you don’t. We’re gonna assess a tax on every atheist that doesn’t go to church because those atheists are endangering their physical health.”

Although Fischer was perhaps attempting to be facetious, the implication that people who don’t go to church are atheists disregards the millions of people who may find spiritual nourishment at sacred sites, mosques, synagogues, temples or any other place of worship, including the original – awe-inspiring nature.

http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2012/07/09/anti-indians-blacks-muslims-gays-grizzly-bears-mormons-guy-wants-mandatory-church-attendance-or-atheists-tax-122579

Here's the asshole.

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rug Jul 2012 OP
LeftofObama Jul 2012 #1
cbayer Jul 2012 #2
UsingReason Jul 2012 #3
SoutherDem Jul 2012 #4
EvolveOrConvolve Jul 2012 #5
skepticscott Jul 2012 #6
rug Jul 2012 #7
skepticscott Jul 2012 #8
rug Jul 2012 #9
skepticscott Jul 2012 #10
rug Jul 2012 #12
skepticscott Jul 2012 #13
rug Jul 2012 #16
dmallind Jul 2012 #14
rug Jul 2012 #15
mr blur Jul 2012 #17
LeftishBrit Jul 2012 #11

Response to rug (Original post)

Tue Jul 10, 2012, 05:30 PM

1. Fuck him!

And the dinosaur he rode in on!

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Response to rug (Original post)

Tue Jul 10, 2012, 05:35 PM

2. OK, I just had to google the grizzly bear reference.

Social Conservative Bryan Fischer: Get Rid Of The ‘Curse’ That Is The Grizzly Bear

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/11/social_conservative_bryan_fischer_its_time_to_get.php

Dare I say that this guy is a real jackass?

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Response to rug (Original post)

Tue Jul 10, 2012, 05:49 PM

3. LMAO

Grizzly bears attacking people, you can't explain that. So kill them all.

Perhaps someone should point out the mountain of data on the relationship between religiousness and social well being of a country.

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Response to rug (Original post)

Tue Jul 10, 2012, 07:41 PM

4. Does he realize there is more than the Christian Religion?

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Has he not heard of the 1st Amendment? Plus, many, many Christians either don't go to church or go only on Christmas and Easter. That alone would eliminate the deficit.

What about a practice what you preach tax? Claim Christianity but don't follow the instruction of Christ like, love your neighbor, or when you have done this for the least of these you have done it to me, you get taxed. We would then have a surplus. Oh, wait. Christians do have a practice what you preach tax, it is called Hell.

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Response to rug (Original post)

Tue Jul 10, 2012, 07:44 PM

5. This dickhead used to live in my neck of the woods

He was constantly writing letters to the editor about the evil atheist/Muslim/homosexual conspiracies and other pieces of crap. I guess we weren't batshit crazy enough for him, because he left Idaho and moved down south somewhere.

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Response to rug (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2012, 09:38 AM

6. But hey, militant atheists are just as bad, right?

 

We've all seen how the militant, radical atheists in America have advocated making church attendance illegal, or taxing people for going, right?

So the people on this board who claim that "fundamentalist" atheists are just as bad as fundamentalist Xstians are spot-on, right?

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Response to skepticscott (Reply #6)

Wed Jul 11, 2012, 09:59 AM

7. It's a good thing this guy is an outlier.

 

Otherwise, your toxic sniveling about natural political allies would open the door for fascists like this to walk in and achieve real power.

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Response to rug (Reply #7)

Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:19 AM

8. Anyone who claims

 

that "militant", "fundamentalist" atheists in this country are just as bad as this guy, or a boatload of other Xstian whack jobs, is hardly a "natural ally", political or otherwise.

But you're right on cue..thanks for not disappointing.

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Response to skepticscott (Reply #8)

Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:23 AM

9. Parroting your talking point is not responding to a post.

 

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Response to rug (Reply #9)

Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:36 AM

10. I said nothing about "natural allies" in #6

 

So there was no parroting going on...just another of your lame inventions.

But do explain why anyone would be a "natural" political ally of someone who they regard as just as bad as the people they're fighting against.

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Response to skepticscott (Reply #10)

Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:42 AM

12. I did.

 

Do you think the statement that DU members are natural political allies is a "lame invention"?

Do you think nonatheist DU members are "just as bad as the people they're fighting against"?

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Response to rug (Reply #12)

Wed Jul 11, 2012, 05:25 PM

13. No, you never explained

 

why someone you hate as much as the people you're fighting is a "natural ally"

And what I called a "lame invention" was your claim that I was parroting my own talking point as opposed to addressing yours.

Since you've regressed (again) to making shit up, rounds are over.

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Response to skepticscott (Reply #13)

Wed Jul 11, 2012, 07:51 PM

16. Why don't you just be specific.

 

Who are you talking about?

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Response to rug (Reply #7)

Wed Jul 11, 2012, 05:37 PM

14. An "outlier" who speaks for millions, with hundreds of media channels at his command

Atheism could really use an outlier or two.

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Response to dmallind (Reply #14)

Wed Jul 11, 2012, 07:49 PM

15. Show me the evidence he speaks for millions.

 

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Response to rug (Reply #7)

Wed Jul 11, 2012, 07:57 PM

17. "toxic sniveling"? Do you kiss your bible with that mouth? nt

 

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Response to rug (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:39 AM

11. Scumbag

Actually, to be fair, I don't think he's really recommending that non-church-goers be taxed. He is being snarky about Obama's healthcare plan and the individual mandate, and is dragging in his religious prejudices. Either way, it's nasty.

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