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Sat Apr 10, 2021, 11:47 AM

Was the 'forbidden fruit' in the Garden of Eden really an apple?

What's the likely identity of the "forbidden fruit" described in the Bible's Garden of Eden, which Eve is said to have eaten and then shared with Adam? If your guess is "apple," you're probably wrong. The Hebrew Bible doesn't actually specify what type of fruit Adam and Eve ate. "We don't know what it was. There's no indication it was an apple," Rabbi Ari Zivotofsky, a professor of brain science at Israel's Bar-Ilan University, told Live Science.

Over the years, rabbis have written that the fruit could have been a fig, because in the Hebrew Bible, Adam and Eve realized they were naked after eating from the tree of knowledge, and then used fig leaves to cover themselves. Or maybe, some rabbis wrote, it was wheat, because the Hebrew word for wheat, "chitah," is similar to the word for sin, "cheit," Zivotofsky said. Grapes, or wine made from grapes, are another possibility. Finally, the rabbis wrote that it might have been a citron, or "etrog" in Hebrew a bittersweet, lemon-like fruit used during the Jewish fall festival of Sukkot, a harvest celebration in which Jews erect temporary dwellings.

Given all of these potential forbidden fruits, how did apples which aren't even from the Middle East, but from Kazakhstan in Central Asia become the predominant interpretation? Instead, the possible path from fruit to apple began in Rome in A.D. 382., when Pope Damasus I asked a scholar named Jerome to translate the Bible into Latin.

"The word ["malum"] in Latin translates into a word in English, apple, which also stood for any fruit ... with a core of seeds in the middle and flesh around it. But it was a generic term [for fruit] as well," Appelbaum told Live Science. Apple had this generic meaning until the 17th century, according to the Online Etymological Dictionary. Jerome likely chose the word "malum" to mean fruit, because the very same word can also mean evil, Appelbaum said. So it's a pun, referring to the fruit associated with humans' first big mistake with a word that also means essentially that.

https://www.livescience.com/what-was-forbidden-fruit-in-eden.html

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Reply Was the 'forbidden fruit' in the Garden of Eden really an apple? (Original post)
left-of-center2012 Apr 2021 OP
Claire Oh Nette Apr 2021 #1
RainCaster Apr 2021 #4
Clash City Rocker Apr 2021 #7
HUAJIAO Apr 2021 #2
Beakybird Apr 2021 #3
Fullduplexxx Apr 2021 #12
PJMcK Apr 2021 #13
Clash City Rocker Apr 2021 #5
ramblin_dave Apr 2021 #6
Girard442 Apr 2021 #8
pandr32 Apr 2021 #10
5X Apr 2021 #9
cojoel Apr 2021 #15
Fullduplexxx Apr 2021 #11
Midnight Writer Apr 2021 #14
Karadeniz Apr 2021 #16
JustFiveMoreMinutes Apr 2021 #17
Voltaire2 Apr 2021 #18

Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sat Apr 10, 2021, 11:52 AM

1. Middle East

Do apple trees grow in the Middle East?

Probably aren't many evergreens either, but that never stopped Christmas trees....

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Response to Claire Oh Nette (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 10, 2021, 11:58 AM

4. Think "Cedars of Lebanon"

Christmas trees are a European tradition, if I remember correctly.

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Response to RainCaster (Reply #4)

Sat Apr 10, 2021, 12:16 PM

7. Yeah, I think Christmas trees first became popular in Germany during Martin Luthor's time

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sat Apr 10, 2021, 11:56 AM

3. Then Eve blamed the snake, and he didn't have a leg to stand on.

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Response to Beakybird (Reply #3)

Sat Apr 10, 2021, 12:39 PM

12. Lol

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Response to Beakybird (Reply #3)

Sat Apr 10, 2021, 12:44 PM

13. Oy

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sat Apr 10, 2021, 12:06 PM

5. Interesting, thanks for posting this

The likely location of the Garden of Eden, based on four rivers that are mentioned in Genesis as being nearby, is modern day Iraq. I doubt many apples grow near Iraq.

Id never heard an explanation for why people think it was an apple. Thats a nice theory.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sat Apr 10, 2021, 12:13 PM

6. The professor's name is Appelbaum - LOL nt

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sat Apr 10, 2021, 12:19 PM

8. The actual forbidden fruit was knowledge.

The serpent (metapborically speaking) might have been humankind's greatest benefactor.

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Response to Girard442 (Reply #8)

Sat Apr 10, 2021, 12:25 PM

10. I like this explanation

It underscores the mythological elements of the story.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sat Apr 10, 2021, 12:23 PM

9. The answer is obvious.

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Response to 5X (Reply #9)

Sat Apr 10, 2021, 02:46 PM

15. Yeah

It was weed

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sat Apr 10, 2021, 12:38 PM

11. It became apple the same way jesus became a blue eyed white guy

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sat Apr 10, 2021, 02:36 PM

14. The Garden of Eden was in Iowa, and the real Chosen People were Americans.

And the apple was an alien device that accelerated evolution and made people smart.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sat Apr 10, 2021, 03:12 PM

16. Well...when Cain left the garden, there were already cities and people, so Adam and Eve can't have

Been the first people. Was Eden even on earth? I doubt it.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sat Apr 10, 2021, 08:51 PM

17. Dates? and fermenting started soon after? n/t

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Sun Apr 11, 2021, 07:56 AM

18. Also who exactly did Cain and Able have sex with?

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