Losing Faith: Why South Carolina is abandoning its churches

And looking at the photos in that article, I also couldn't help but be reminded that very few places in America are as segregated as churches.

I think and hope we already know the answer to that!

Consider what happened when someone of the wrong ethnicity approached Jesus. How did Jesus and his disciples treat the Canaanite woman who asked for his help, and what did Jesus say to her? He finally helped her child, but only after she groveled enough to satisfy him, and agreed with his characterization of her as a dog begging for scraps.

Matthew 15 : 21 Leaving that place, Jesus withdrew to the region of Tyre and Sidon. 22 A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, “Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is demon-possessed and suffering terribly.”

23 Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, “Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us.”

24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”

25 The woman came and knelt before him. “Lord, help me!” she said.

26 He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.”

27 “Yes it is, Lord,” she said. “Even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their master’s table.”

28 Then Jesus said to her, “Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted.” And her daughter was healed at that moment.

They are doctors, University Presidents, Intellectuals all, but still go to church and are generally very religious. Very progressive too, politically. Ill have to ask them about this.

"religion is dying out" posts that we see so much of here.

As opposed to a well-researched article in a major South Carolina newspaper. Did you read it?

And each such apocalyptic article eventually is forgotten, to be replaced at a later date with another.

Which doesn't say what you claim, but that didn't seem to stop you from your trademark tendency of contributing nothing meaningful to the discussion.

That was my question. Had you, you'd understand why I asked the question.

Further, it's an article from a newspaper, and appears to be carefully researched. You frequently post articles from religionnews.com, and sometimes chide DUers for not reading the article at the link.

I do read most linked articles. I often find that what is in the OP has little to do with the content and intent of the original article. It's very informative.

Frankly, if you have nothing to say about the issues raised in an OP, and won't read the underlying source, I wonder why you bother to comment at all during your infrequent visits to the Religion Group these days.

I'm just curious, you see.

Like the decline of manufacturing. I read my first article about loss of manufacturing jobs in the late 1970s. And here we are with many fewer manufacturing jobs, still losing and still have articles chronicling the losses.

Even the more strict non-mainline denominations have flatlined.

What's humorous is the assumption that minus religion all's swell. There have been a number of atheist states. I'd rather live in Spain in the 1500s than in most of those--at least you knew the rules and how to circumvent them with a high chance of success. The Inquisition was the opening act for some atheist states' repression, and some made Hitler look like an amateur.

(Of course, what they have in mind is *their* version of atheism and its application and how *they'd* run the state. As a hypothetical. Even if in real life things aren't quite so idealistic. Which gets us back to the problem of religions, which tend to be highly idealistic. Even if real life things aren't quite so idealistic. At least some religions like the idea of humility. Even if it's an idea. And in real life things aren't quite so idealistic.)

Perhaps church attendance would not be declining if 'witnessing' for their faith did not include protecting pedophile priests, supporting sexual predators like Trump and using the faith to gain riches.

But did include "love thy neighbor" more than 'begrudge thy neighbor'.
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Judas was an early modern day conservative disciple.

Judas got 30 pieces of silver, but just once, for selling Christ.

Pat Robertson, Jim Bakker and their ilk get millions of dollars repeatedly for selling Christ.

Judas was a fool for doing a one-time sale.

That's actually a fair bit of the article. Still, at least the raw numbers are moving in the right direction.