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Sun May 20, 2018, 09:35 AM

Will they ever again be seen as credible moral agents after the last two years?



Morality Morality We don't need no morality.

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Reply Will they ever again be seen as credible moral agents after the last two years? (Original post)
Soph0571 May 2018 OP
TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #1
wryter2000 May 2018 #2
bobbieinok May 2018 #3
Voltaire2 May 2018 #4
MineralMan May 2018 #5
NeoGreen May 2018 #6
Mariana May 2018 #7
trotsky May 2018 #8
The Genealogist May 2018 #9

Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun May 20, 2018, 09:43 AM

1. They only

 

Ever saw themselves as such. Normal folks did not.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun May 20, 2018, 09:50 AM

2. No

And why should they? They never stood for any real moral positions

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun May 20, 2018, 11:20 AM

3. Evangelicals-- no moral authority. Catholic church none either b/c of sex abuse coverup, minimal act

IMHO whenever a spokesperson for either appears to proclaim in public they should be greeted with signs and jeers pointing out how they can no longer 'speak in the name of Christ.'

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun May 20, 2018, 12:03 PM

4. Yes. They will continue to be fawned over by both

parties. See the recent death of Billy Graham. See every presidential candidate explicitly uttering avowals of sincere religiosity at every opportunity.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun May 20, 2018, 12:33 PM

5. I have never seen them as such.

None of them.

The vast majority of well-known religious leaders are self-serving hypocrites who seek publicity and fame. I do not trust such people, nor consider them to be credible.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun May 20, 2018, 05:28 PM

6. The question I'd like to ask is why were they ever taken as...

...credible in the first place.

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Response to NeoGreen (Reply #6)

Sun May 20, 2018, 06:31 PM

7. Because they are Christians, and most Americans are Christians.

Study after study has shown that Christians generally consider Christians to be more moral and trustworthy than everyone else.

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Response to Mariana (Reply #7)

Mon May 21, 2018, 09:45 AM

8. You can see the effect right here in this forum.

Religion - even in some of its very bad forms - is defended against perceived attacks by atheists.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2018, 09:44 PM

9. Credible moral agents? I think not.

Credible moral agents would not trip over each other to defend and glorify a man like Donald Trump. Credible moral agents would not fleece the elderly on fixed incomes to enrich themselves. Credible moral agents would not blame natural disasters on people who are sexually attracted to others of their own sex. Credible moral agents wouldn't have extramarital affairs on Saturday night and Sunday morning condemn "sinners." These people have warped views of morality.

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