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Sun May 20, 2018, 07:08 AM

You can keep your thoughts and prayers because you could fix this yourself, God tells America



God has rejected America’s latest set of thoughts and prayers following the Santa Fe school shooting, telling them he doesn’t grant prayers for things you can easily fix yourself.

As the latest school shooting saw more students gunned down in a place they should feel safe, God has shocked many Texans by flatly rejecting their requests to do something about school shootings.

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“But, if you’re praying to me in the hope I’ll help stop school shootings, then no – I’m not helping. Because that’s a job for your politicians. I’m here for divine intervention, not because America’s political establishment are too dependent on the gun lobby’s money.

“Look, it’s really simple – school shootings are really easy to fix, just get rid of the guns. Easy. You don’t need me. Gerry needs me, and I’m happy to consider helping Gerry – but you folks calling for me to help with school shootings need to write a letter to your congressman and start voting against the people that won’t make changes to your gun laws.


[link:http://newsthump.com/2018/05/18/you-can-keep-your-thoughts-and-prayers-because-you-could-fix-this-yourself-god-tells-america/|

Heh. God raises a valid point

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Reply You can keep your thoughts and prayers because you could fix this yourself, God tells America (Original post)
Soph0571 May 2018 OP
c-rational May 2018 #1
yallerdawg May 2018 #2
edhopper May 2018 #3
yallerdawg May 2018 #4
edhopper May 2018 #5
yallerdawg May 2018 #6
edhopper May 2018 #7

Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun May 20, 2018, 07:30 AM

1. Thanks for the post. It made made smile in trying times.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun May 20, 2018, 08:28 AM

2. God is right.

“God created things which had free will. That means creatures which can go wrong or right. Some people think they can imagine a creature which was free but had no possibility of going wrong, but I can't. If a thing is free to be good it's also free to be bad. And free will is what has made evil possible. Why, then, did God give them free will? Because free will, though it makes evil possible, is also the only thing that makes possible any love or goodness or joy worth having. A world of automata - of creatures that worked like machines- would hardly be worth creating. The happiness which God designs for His higher creatures is the happiness of being freely, voluntarily united to Him and to each other in an ecstasy of love and delight compared with which the most rapturous love between a man and a woman on this earth is mere milk and water. And for that they've got to be free.

"Of course God knew what would happen if they used their freedom the wrong way: apparently, He thought it worth the risk. (...) If God thinks this state of war in the universe a price worth paying for free will - that is, for making a real world in which creatures can do real good or harm and something of real importance can happen, instead of a toy world which only moves when He pulls the strings- then we may take it it is worth paying.” -- C.S. Lewis, from "The Case for Christianity"

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Response to yallerdawg (Reply #2)

Sun May 20, 2018, 09:59 AM

3. So God is good

with the "free will" (even though mental illness could be involved) of one person taking away the free will of 10 other people, who did not choose to die.

What a fucked up Universe he created.

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Response to edhopper (Reply #3)

Sun May 20, 2018, 10:24 AM

4. That would be the universe we create.

Surely an Atheist isn't advocating 'deus ex machina.'

You want no God and you want no responsibility?

The gun problem and mental illness are issues requiring divine intervention?

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Response to yallerdawg (Reply #4)

Sun May 20, 2018, 11:31 AM

5. You are the one

advocating a God that allows such evil because this mentally ill child decided to take 10 lives.

I see it as more evidence that no such "loving" God exists.

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Response to edhopper (Reply #5)

Sun May 20, 2018, 11:40 AM

6. Just explained.

You do not have to listen.

I wouldn't expect you to.

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Response to yallerdawg (Reply #6)

Sun May 20, 2018, 01:16 PM

7. Not explained at all.

There is no logic in Lewis' quote. Only more excuses for faith in a "loving God" in the face of a cruel world.
One person's "free will", even one who is mentally ill, is more important to God than innocent lives.
How anyone can worship such a God is beyond me.

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