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MineralMan

(146,287 posts)
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 04:12 PM Feb 2018

I loved singing in church choirs. There is no choir in the Religion Group.

Even as an atheist, I have participated in them. There is a special pleasure in singing with a group of talented vocalists, whatever the music might be. I began singing in choirs as a teenager. The church I attended at the time had both a youth choir and an adult choir. Both had the same choir director. I started in the youth choir. Since I was an instrumental musician, I already read music so adapting to choral music was easy. I was a bass/baritone, even at 14 years of age, and was also able to sing in the tenor range. The director liked all of that, and soon asked if I would also join the adult choir.

The process, of course, involved frequent rehearsals, since singing together with many people is always a challenge. Blending multiple voices into a uniform overall sound takes practice and concentration. It's impossible, really, for a choir to sing together without that practice. Otherwise, everyone is singing for him or herself, without blending smoothing into one sound.

After I could no longer believe in deities, I did not stop singing in church choirs. There was no reason to do so. The music still existed, so I kept singing in the choir. Nobody minded, because my voice had become an integral part of the group. After I left my home town, I joined other choirs, including some rather large choral groups, simply because I loved making music. At the same time, I was still playing in orchestras as well.

I no longer do either, sadly. My last time singing in a choir was a performance of Handel's "Messiah," where I both played oboe in the orchestra and sang the "For He is Like a Refiner's Fire" solo part. The words didn't matter. The music mattered. Music transcends belief, really. But, life got busy. I got older, and I stopped playing the oboe and singing. I miss it, but that was another time.

I have to laugh when someone claims that there is a "choir" here in the Religion Group. There's not. A choir must rehearse to have any unity at all, and there are no rehearsals here for anything that I am aware of. Everyone is singing a solo part here in the Religion Group. Everyone has his or her own music and lyrics to sing. It's fun, but it's not a choir.

Thanks for indulging me by reading this.

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I loved singing in church choirs. There is no choir in the Religion Group. (Original Post) MineralMan Feb 2018 OP
If the only word in the song is "No"... yallerdawg Feb 2018 #1
Yah, that's an easy song. MineralMan Feb 2018 #2
Ouch!!!!! guillaumeb Feb 2018 #12
Is that why you two are always in harmony? Lordquinton Feb 2018 #16
I actually copyrighted that phrase. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #17
Thanks for the confirmation. Lordquinton Feb 2018 #27
Of a sense of humor? guillaumeb Feb 2018 #29
That might be all you hear--or are capable of hearing-- Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2018 #21
"There is NO God, there is NO proof, there is NO evidence." yallerdawg Feb 2018 #24
When someone says... tonedevil Feb 2018 #26
As opposed to "There is a god, there is no proof, there is no evidence!" Lordquinton Feb 2018 #28
The process involved frequent rehearsals ... Mariana Feb 2018 #3
I don't do DU Mail. MineralMan Feb 2018 #5
Now, private discussions about posters and comments is another thing. yallerdawg Feb 2018 #11
Yes, incredible but true. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #13
People read the threads. MineralMan Feb 2018 #14
You say it is not you. yallerdawg Feb 2018 #15
I don't speak for anyone but myself. MineralMan Feb 2018 #18
GREAT point. trotsky Feb 2018 #9
The same person unironically trots out the bandwagon fallacy to justify believing silly things. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2018 #10
Yeah, I'm not getting the newsletter, either. What am I? Chopped liver? Iggo Feb 2018 #25
I understand. I attended a UU church for a few years. It was a social thing, not a religious thing. Binkie The Clown Feb 2018 #4
Sounds like a fun group! MineralMan Feb 2018 #6
Sadly, over the years, the fun people drifted away and it became stodgy. :( nt Binkie The Clown Feb 2018 #7
It happens. Too bad. MineralMan Feb 2018 #8
Some of the "church" music.. Permanut Feb 2018 #19
I've done The Messiah at least a dozen times, both MineralMan Feb 2018 #20
The main source of income for composers of that time was the church. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2018 #22
Yes. If you're a musician, you're almost certainly going to MineralMan Feb 2018 #23

MineralMan

(146,287 posts)
2. Yah, that's an easy song.
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 04:38 PM
Feb 2018

Generally, the music is more complex for choirs, though.

Singing together is hard.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,917 posts)
21. That might be all you hear--or are capable of hearing--
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 12:14 PM
Feb 2018

but the responses to what you post are much more detailed than that.

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
26. When someone says...
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 04:13 PM
Feb 2018

there is no proof and no evidence do you provide them? If I were to see proof or evidence of a god I would agree they exist.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
28. As opposed to "There is a god, there is no proof, there is no evidence!"
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 04:25 PM
Feb 2018

Maybe offer more if you want more in return?

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
3. The process involved frequent rehearsals ...
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 04:39 PM
Feb 2018

The poster who babbles on about the "choir" is the very poster who has told us that he has "numerous" (his word) private exchanges about what he posts in this group. I don't think there has been any such coordination and planning by members of the supposed choir. If there has been, I certainly haven't been included. I think there is some projection going on.

MineralMan

(146,287 posts)
5. I don't do DU Mail.
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 04:42 PM
Feb 2018

It's in my signature line. When someone ignores that, I just tell them that I don't carry on background conversations and that they should post in the public forums if they have something to say.

It's interesting to read that some people hold discussions about forums in private. I've always wondered about that. I know I'm not doing that, because I never do that. I don't like that sort of backroom conniving.

I made that decision after being singled out by people who did just that sort of thing to share negative information about me. I simply do not do it.

Some people do, though, and occasionally they let that slip. It's informative when it happens.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
11. Now, private discussions about posters and comments is another thing.
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 04:57 PM
Feb 2018

I've seen quick and sudden "themes" of attack that spread like a virus from multiple posters across multiple threads and OP's.

Now, I'm sure y'all would consider that "random events" rather than "intelligent design."

Sure coincidental.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
15. You say it is not you.
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 06:26 PM
Feb 2018

You also say you don't speak for others.

I could document it - but all we'd get is denial - "No."

What would be the point?

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
10. The same person unironically trots out the bandwagon fallacy to justify believing silly things.
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 04:56 PM
Feb 2018

It's amusing. On a very basal level.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
4. I understand. I attended a UU church for a few years. It was a social thing, not a religious thing.
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 04:41 PM
Feb 2018

And we had Wednesday night "parties" where we sang along to live musicians. Some of the music was "religious". Most of it wasn't. But it was all good music.

Permanut

(5,602 posts)
19. Some of the "church" music..
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 07:45 PM
Feb 2018

is absolutely fantastic. I got to sing the Messiah this year for the first time since about 1967. Gonna do it again this year.

MineralMan

(146,287 posts)
20. I've done The Messiah at least a dozen times, both
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 08:43 PM
Feb 2018

Vocally and as an orchestra member. Great piece of music.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,917 posts)
22. The main source of income for composers of that time was the church.
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 12:16 PM
Feb 2018

Not surprising they wrote religious pieces. As an atheist, I love singing that music, too, because they were fantastic composers.

MineralMan

(146,287 posts)
23. Yes. If you're a musician, you're almost certainly going to
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 12:43 PM
Feb 2018

be performing religious music. Why not? It's music.

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