Mon Dec 19, 2011, 08:00 PM
Taverner (55,476 posts)
I am convinced that on everyone's deathbed, they will finally realize that they are all lies
Seriously
No matter who you are or what you live for Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, Atheist or Hindu Existentialist, Apologist, Communist or Nazi Every single person in this world, when on their death bed, will feel as if everything they lived for was a lie And, as strange as it may sound, that will be a good thing
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Taverner | Dec 2011 | OP |
humblebum | Dec 2011 | #1 | |
laconicsax | Dec 2011 | #4 | |
humblebum | Dec 2011 | #8 | |
rrneck | Dec 2011 | #2 | |
uriel1972 | Dec 2011 | #3 | |
Starboard Tack | Dec 2011 | #5 | |
Angry Dragon | Dec 2011 | #6 | |
struggle4progress | Dec 2011 | #7 | |
TygrBright | Dec 2011 | #9 | |
Adsos Letter | Dec 2011 | #15 | |
Silent3 | Dec 2011 | #10 | |
that went well..... | Dec 2011 | #11 | |
Newest Reality | Dec 2011 | #12 | |
FarCenter | Dec 2011 | #13 | |
iris27 | Dec 2011 | #14 | |
GliderGuider | Dec 2011 | #16 | |
deacon_sephiroth | Dec 2011 | #17 |
Response to Taverner (Original post)
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 08:11 PM
humblebum (5,881 posts)
1. Even atheists?
Response to humblebum (Reply #1)
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 08:26 PM
laconicsax (14,860 posts)
4. "Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, Atheist or Hindu"
Reading the OP before replying to it, while not mandatory, is highly recommended.
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Response to laconicsax (Reply #4)
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 09:14 PM
humblebum (5,881 posts)
8. I couldn't agree more - "on everyone's deathbed"
"Every single person in this world, when on their death bed, will feel as if everything they lived for was a lie."
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Response to Taverner (Original post)
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 08:17 PM
rrneck (17,671 posts)
2. Shit, I do that every day. nt
Response to Taverner (Original post)
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 08:20 PM
uriel1972 (4,261 posts)
3. I don't know about lies,
but I definitely will feel betrayed by life.
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Response to Taverner (Original post)
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 08:26 PM
Starboard Tack (11,181 posts)
5. What convinces you of this?
Response to Taverner (Original post)
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 08:59 PM
Angry Dragon (36,693 posts)
6. Depends on if they lived their life to please themselves or others
Others also include gods
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Response to Taverner (Original post)
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 09:03 PM
struggle4progress (114,736 posts)
7. I'm already spending some time every day right now thinking about how wrong I am
about all sorts of stuff: I'm been trying to make it more of a habit. I guess if it becomes habitual enough, it'll be something that I might automatically brood about, if I'm ever sitting around dying with nothing else to do
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Response to Taverner (Original post)
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 09:16 PM
TygrBright (20,157 posts)
9. I'm not sure about "lies." But having spent some time in hospices...
...I believe very strongly that on my deathbed I will finally gain an accurate sense of proportion: That is, what I spent much time and effort and anxiety on that really matters very little. And that which passed by me unregarded at the time but is of deep significance.
I hope I retain enough wits to be able to laugh about it. thoughtfully, Bright |
Response to Taverner (Original post)
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 09:17 PM
Silent3 (13,598 posts)
10. I suspect that many people are beyond coherent thought...
...as they die. If you die a sudden violent death, such as having a large, high-velocity bullet passing though your head, there would be no time for anything but a few confused milliseconds, after which all thoughts would cease altogether. If your brain slowly loses oxygen I suspect that one's last thoughts are very much like the thoughts reported by those who manage to come back to full consciousness after very nearly dying.
As no one who has truly died can report their experiences, this subject matter is all speculation. I see no grounds for being "convinced" of anything at all. |
Response to Taverner (Original post)
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 09:34 PM
that went well..... (9 posts)
11. I heartily concur!
Read "A Diamond in Your Pocket" by Gangaji. She talks about how our egos distort our True Selves and how most people never discover their innate bliss until the moment of transition!
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Response to Taverner (Original post)
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 09:37 PM
Newest Reality (12,712 posts)
12. For a Buddhist
who realizes the meditation on emptiness, (spaciousness) and has been set face-to-face with the Clear Light of Primordial Awareness as the Dharmakaya, that would probably not be the case.
In fact, such a realization is of the non-dual, unborn, deathless, timeless state of the unconditioned. So, death would be a part of the play of energy from said. |
Response to Taverner (Original post)
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 11:09 PM
FarCenter (19,429 posts)
13. It should be like going to sleep, going under anesthesia, or getting knocked out in a sport
Lots of people have become unconscious at multiple points in their life.
The only difference is that you don't wake up. |
Response to Taverner (Original post)
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 12:48 AM
iris27 (1,951 posts)
14. The last relative I encountered on her deathbed had trouble
staying conscious long enough to have realizations of any sort, much less existential ones. For the last couple weeks of her life, she was asleep 95% of the time, and basically woke up only to be walked from her bed to her chair (or back), and maybe to drink some water or take some meds.
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Response to Taverner (Original post)
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 07:44 AM
GliderGuider (21,088 posts)
16. Why wait? This awareness is available right now.
The realization that life is a self-constructed illusion is a liberating moment of "death-within-life" that confers both perspective and peace of mind. There is no need to wait for it.
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Response to Taverner (Original post)
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 10:13 AM
deacon_sephiroth (731 posts)