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Mon Dec 19, 2011, 07:00 PM

 

I am convinced that on everyone's deathbed, they will finally realize that they are all lies

Seriously

No matter who you are or what you live for

Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, Atheist or Hindu

Existentialist, Apologist, Communist or Nazi

Every single person in this world, when on their death bed, will feel as if everything they lived for was a lie

And, as strange as it may sound, that will be a good thing

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Reply I am convinced that on everyone's deathbed, they will finally realize that they are all lies (Original post)
Taverner Dec 2011 OP
humblebum Dec 2011 #1
laconicsax Dec 2011 #4
humblebum Dec 2011 #8
rrneck Dec 2011 #2
uriel1972 Dec 2011 #3
Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #5
Angry Dragon Dec 2011 #6
struggle4progress Dec 2011 #7
TygrBright Dec 2011 #9
Adsos Letter Dec 2011 #15
Silent3 Dec 2011 #10
that went well..... Dec 2011 #11
Newest Reality Dec 2011 #12
FarCenter Dec 2011 #13
iris27 Dec 2011 #14
GliderGuider Dec 2011 #16
deacon_sephiroth Dec 2011 #17

Response to Taverner (Original post)

Mon Dec 19, 2011, 07:11 PM

1. Even atheists?

 

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Response to humblebum (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 19, 2011, 07:26 PM

4. "Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, Atheist or Hindu"

 

Reading the OP before replying to it, while not mandatory, is highly recommended.

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Response to laconicsax (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 19, 2011, 08:14 PM

8. I couldn't agree more - "on everyone's deathbed"

 

"Every single person in this world, when on their death bed, will feel as if everything they lived for was a lie."

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Response to Taverner (Original post)

Mon Dec 19, 2011, 07:17 PM

2. Shit, I do that every day. nt

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Response to Taverner (Original post)

Mon Dec 19, 2011, 07:20 PM

3. I don't know about lies,

but I definitely will feel betrayed by life.

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Response to Taverner (Original post)

Mon Dec 19, 2011, 07:26 PM

5. What convinces you of this?

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Response to Taverner (Original post)

Mon Dec 19, 2011, 07:59 PM

6. Depends on if they lived their life to please themselves or others

Others also include gods

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Response to Taverner (Original post)

Mon Dec 19, 2011, 08:03 PM

7. I'm already spending some time every day right now thinking about how wrong I am

about all sorts of stuff: I'm been trying to make it more of a habit. I guess if it becomes habitual enough, it'll be something that I might automatically brood about, if I'm ever sitting around dying with nothing else to do

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Response to Taverner (Original post)

Mon Dec 19, 2011, 08:16 PM

9. I'm not sure about "lies." But having spent some time in hospices...

...I believe very strongly that on my deathbed I will finally gain an accurate sense of proportion: That is, what I spent much time and effort and anxiety on that really matters very little. And that which passed by me unregarded at the time but is of deep significance.

I hope I retain enough wits to be able to laugh about it.

thoughtfully,
Bright

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Response to TygrBright (Reply #9)

Tue Dec 20, 2011, 02:00 AM

15. +1

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Response to Taverner (Original post)

Mon Dec 19, 2011, 08:17 PM

10. I suspect that many people are beyond coherent thought...

...as they die. If you die a sudden violent death, such as having a large, high-velocity bullet passing though your head, there would be no time for anything but a few confused milliseconds, after which all thoughts would cease altogether. If your brain slowly loses oxygen I suspect that one's last thoughts are very much like the thoughts reported by those who manage to come back to full consciousness after very nearly dying.

As no one who has truly died can report their experiences, this subject matter is all speculation. I see no grounds for being "convinced" of anything at all.

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Response to Taverner (Original post)

Mon Dec 19, 2011, 08:34 PM

11. I heartily concur!

 

Read "A Diamond in Your Pocket" by Gangaji. She talks about how our egos distort our True Selves and how most people never discover their innate bliss until the moment of transition!

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Response to Taverner (Original post)

Mon Dec 19, 2011, 08:37 PM

12. For a Buddhist

who realizes the meditation on emptiness, (spaciousness) and has been set face-to-face with the Clear Light of Primordial Awareness as the Dharmakaya, that would probably not be the case.

In fact, such a realization is of the non-dual, unborn, deathless, timeless state of the unconditioned. So, death would be a part of the play of energy from said.

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Response to Taverner (Original post)

Mon Dec 19, 2011, 10:09 PM

13. It should be like going to sleep, going under anesthesia, or getting knocked out in a sport

 

Lots of people have become unconscious at multiple points in their life.

The only difference is that you don't wake up.

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Response to Taverner (Original post)

Mon Dec 19, 2011, 11:48 PM

14. The last relative I encountered on her deathbed had trouble

staying conscious long enough to have realizations of any sort, much less existential ones. For the last couple weeks of her life, she was asleep 95% of the time, and basically woke up only to be walked from her bed to her chair (or back), and maybe to drink some water or take some meds.

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Response to Taverner (Original post)

Tue Dec 20, 2011, 06:44 AM

16. Why wait? This awareness is available right now.

 

The realization that life is a self-constructed illusion is a liberating moment of "death-within-life" that confers both perspective and peace of mind. There is no need to wait for it.

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Response to Taverner (Original post)

Tue Dec 20, 2011, 09:13 AM

17. I like to think that in that moment, I won't care. n/t

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