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Related: About this forumThe universe isn’t indifferent; we are an opportunity for the universe to care about itself
February 7, 2016
by Peter Mosley
Were made of star-stuff. We are a way for the cosmos to know itself. Carl Sagan
We are part of this universe. We are in this universe. But perhaps more important than both of those facts is that the universe is in us. When I reflect on that fact many people feel small, because theyre small and the universe is big, but I feel big. Because my atoms came from those stars [that I see when I look up in the night sky]. Theres a level of connectivity. Thats really what you want in life; you want to feel connected. You want to feel relevant. You want to feel like youre a participant in the goings-on and events around you. Thats precisely what we are, just by being alive. Neil Degrasse Tyson
When I first left Christianity and became an atheist, for a time I thought I had to deal with the grim fact that we are alienated from a thoroughly indifferent universe that doesnt care what makes us laugh, cry, worry, love, and the rest a universe that does not care about me at all.
To be sure, this view had its perks. For one, an indifferent universe means I dont have to worry about some all-powerful mind-reading creepily-judgmental/petty dictator who is obsessed about my every move. We atheists have the freedom to see other people without Gods judgment, to embrace hobbies, to live whatever we consider to be a meaningful life. But WE decide it, not some all-powerful deity. When I left Christianity, I thought that was exhilarating.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/barrierbreaker/an-atheists-realization-that-we-are-an-opportunity-for-the-universe-to-care-about-itself/#sthash.9ufFNEf1.dpuf
What kind of woo-world-view is this? What kind of atheist believes in a universe that is not only not indifferent but can be made to care?
MisterP
(23,730 posts)or because they believe "Mankind" or some secular utopia can provide a better vision than mere Deity
a vision of humanity as Earth's gametes, spreading Life Everlasting to those planets that just didn't get it yet, that we're some sort of sentient cortex for the universe
some destiny
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)They will be unto us as we are to slime mold.
Eventually the entire universe will be made up of managed and tamed stellar cores surrounded by matrioshka brains.
And to think, it will all start here with these pathetic bags of polluted water.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)I even disagree with Sagan's original premise, though it seems appropriately poetic.
gcomeau
(5,764 posts)He is not referring literally to the universe. He is just saying that technically we're part of the universe and this little part can be made to care so in some measure "the universe" cares.
Personally I wouldn't phrase it that way, but whatever. Sagan liked to get flowery when he spoke.