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Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:57 PM

Where do you fall on the spectrum of belief?

Regardless of what our personal feelings are about belief, we all fall somewhere on the line. This is purely voluntary, and is not meant to be a call out, but more informative of the theological makeup of belief and non belief. It is flawed by nature and I'm going to limit it to 5 general options. If you don't feel it covers you please select other and write in what you feel and why.
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Gnostic Theist
0 (0%)
Agnostic Theist
0 (0%)
Agnostic Atheist
20 (95%)
Gnostic Atheist
1 (5%)
Other (explain)
0 (0%)
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Reply Where do you fall on the spectrum of belief? (Original post)
Lordquinton Nov 2015 OP
Laffy Kat Nov 2015 #1
Kalidurga Nov 2015 #2
cleanhippie Nov 2015 #4
cleanhippie Nov 2015 #3
edhopper Nov 2015 #5
Lordquinton Nov 2015 #9
gcomeau Nov 2015 #10
edhopper Nov 2015 #12
Lordquinton Nov 2015 #13
FiveGoodMen Nov 2015 #6
F4lconF16 Nov 2015 #14
NastyRiffraff Nov 2015 #17
OffWithTheirHeads Nov 2015 #7
NRaleighLiberal Nov 2015 #8
gcomeau Nov 2015 #11
mr blur Nov 2015 #15
NeoGreen Nov 2015 #21
Lordquinton Nov 2015 #16
gcomeau Nov 2015 #18
Iggo Nov 2015 #20
Iggo Nov 2015 #19

Response to Lordquinton (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:59 PM

1. Actually I'm an obnoxious atheist but there wasn't a box for that. nt

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Response to Lordquinton (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:59 PM

2. LOL

Gnostic Atheist. Someone explained that to me and I was like wait wut. Yes it does describe me, but I don't think that it is actually the same as being an Atheist. The position of saying we can't know either way to me isn't really Atheism which is why I don't call myself an atheist. I have not determined that there was no such thing as a prime mover, yet I think it is very very unlikely.

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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 07:05 PM

4. Considering that Theism is about belief and Gnostcism is about knowledge...

You'd be right that 'knowing' isn't about atheism at all.

gnostic= know
Agnostic= don't know

Theist=believe
Atheist= don't believe


The terms are mutually exclusive.

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Response to Lordquinton (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 07:01 PM

3. With so many on DU seemingly unable to accept that Agnostic and Atheist are mutually exclusive...

Prepare to get flamed for it.

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Response to Lordquinton (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 07:10 PM

5. Does Gnostic Atheist mean

I am pretty sure there is no God and all our knowledge points to there not being one?

Or do I have to KNOW 100% there is no God?

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Response to edhopper (Reply #5)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 07:28 PM

9. 100% know there is no god

And gnostic theist is 100% there is a God.

That 1% saying that we can't rule it out, buat can safely disregard it along with all the other myths is still agnostic. Even Dawkins falls on that with the addition that he could be easily convinced that God, or gods exist with just one solid piece of evidence.

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Response to edhopper (Reply #5)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 07:37 PM

10. Actually...

 

It just means you believe it CAN be known whether or not there is a God. That acquiring such knowledge is possible.

You don't have to claim actually TO know just at the moment., contrary to popular misconceptions.

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Response to gcomeau (Reply #10)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 07:43 PM

12. Answer A: I am not Gnostic

answer B: I am.

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Response to gcomeau (Reply #10)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 08:02 PM

13. I'm using it in the common vernacular for this poll

So know for sure, don't know for sure kinda thing, else it gts co.plicated and fights break out, which was not the intent here.

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Response to Lordquinton (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 07:18 PM

6. I said Agnostic Atheist...

...because, technically, I can't prove -- even to myself -- that there's nothing out there we MIGHT call a god if we met it.

In regard to all of the gods that have been proposed thus far, I'm a full-blown atheist.

I think all the stories that have been told are completely nuts. (And more than a little bit evil)

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Response to FiveGoodMen (Reply #6)

Sun Nov 22, 2015, 03:01 PM

14. +1

Can't prove that a god is impossible, but we can pretty easily prove the human gods so far aren't real.

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Response to FiveGoodMen (Reply #6)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 03:43 PM

17. I think most Atheists are where you are

I know I am. Unlike believers, who are so sure their god exists and everybody had better worship him/her/it, most Atheists take the scientific view that according to all available evidence, there probably is no god. However, if credible evidence is ever presented, I'd be very willing to look at it, and be convinced if it holds up to testing, peer review, etc.

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Response to Lordquinton (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 07:19 PM

7. I think that, considering the vastness of the universe, there are things out there that we

 

don't and can't understand, but, some guy with a beard in the sky? Really?

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Response to Lordquinton (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 07:24 PM

8. agnostic. period.

I take great comfort in admitting I have no clue at all.

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 07:41 PM

11. That's only answering one axis of the spectrum... -eom

 

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Response to Lordquinton (Original post)

Sun Nov 22, 2015, 05:31 PM

15. Apathetic Atheist.

 

I don't know and I don't care.

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Response to mr blur (Reply #15)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 09:17 AM

21. Ooohhh...I like it...

..we could add a third axis to:




Apathy vs Zealotry

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Response to Lordquinton (Original post)

Sun Nov 22, 2015, 07:06 PM

16. I know there are pleanty of theists on this site

Where are you all?

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Response to Lordquinton (Reply #16)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 04:24 PM

18. Perhaps struggling to decide...

 

...whether it's worse to be an agnostic theist and admit room for doubt in their conclusions, or worse to claim gnostic theism and then have to defend the position.

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Response to gcomeau (Reply #18)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:53 PM

20. Those are the fun ones.

The ones who want you to have an open mind, but are afraid to have one themselves.

One of our regulars told me s/he couldn't even imagine (or admit to imagining, I imagine) for the sake of argument that his/her deity did not exist.

I felt bad.

Kind of.

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Response to Lordquinton (Original post)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:50 PM

19. Way, way, way to the left. (n/t)

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