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Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:57 PM

Lordquinton (7,879 posts)

Where do you fall on the spectrum of belief?

Regardless of what our personal feelings are about belief, we all fall somewhere on the line. This is purely voluntary, and is not meant to be a call out, but more informative of the theological makeup of belief and non belief. It is flawed by nature and I'm going to limit it to 5 general options. If you don't feel it covers you please select other and write in what you feel and why.

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	Gnostic Theist
	0 (0%)
	Agnostic Theist
	0 (0%)
	Agnostic Atheist
	20 (95%)
	Gnostic Atheist
	1 (5%)
	Other (explain)
	0 (0%)
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21 replies	Author	Time	Post
Where do you fall on the spectrum of belief? (Original post)	Lordquinton	Nov 2015	OP
Actually I'm an obnoxious atheist but there wasn't a box for that. nt	Laffy Kat	Nov 2015	#1
LOL	Kalidurga	Nov 2015	#2
Considering that Theism is about belief and Gnostcism is about knowledge...	cleanhippie	Nov 2015	#4
With so many on DU seemingly unable to accept that Agnostic and Atheist are mutually exclusive...	cleanhippie	Nov 2015	#3
Does Gnostic Atheist mean	edhopper	Nov 2015	#5
100% know there is no god	Lordquinton	Nov 2015	#9
Actually...	gcomeau	Nov 2015	#10
Answer A: I am not Gnostic	edhopper	Nov 2015	#12
I'm using it in the common vernacular for this poll	Lordquinton	Nov 2015	#13
I said Agnostic Atheist...	FiveGoodMen	Nov 2015	#6
+1	F4lconF16	Nov 2015	#14
I think most Atheists are where you are	NastyRiffraff	Nov 2015	#17
I think that, considering the vastness of the universe, there are things out there that we	OffWithTheirHeads	Nov 2015	#7
agnostic. period.	NRaleighLiberal	Nov 2015	#8
That's only answering one axis of the spectrum... -eom	gcomeau	Nov 2015	#11
Apathetic Atheist.	mr blur	Nov 2015	#15
Ooohhh...I like it...	NeoGreen	Nov 2015	#21
I know there are pleanty of theists on this site	Lordquinton	Nov 2015	#16
Perhaps struggling to decide...	gcomeau	Nov 2015	#18
Those are the fun ones.	Iggo	Nov 2015	#20
Way, way, way to the left. (n/t)	Iggo	Nov 2015	#19

Response to Lordquinton (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:59 PM

Laffy Kat (13,426 posts)

1. Actually I'm an obnoxious atheist but there wasn't a box for that. nt

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Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:59 PM

Kalidurga (14,177 posts)

2. LOL

Gnostic Atheist. Someone explained that to me and I was like wait wut. Yes it does describe me, but I don't think that it is actually the same as being an Atheist. The position of saying we can't know either way to me isn't really Atheism which is why I don't call myself an atheist. I have not determined that there was no such thing as a prime mover, yet I think it is very very unlikely.

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Thu Nov 19, 2015, 07:05 PM

cleanhippie (19,705 posts)

4. Considering that Theism is about belief and Gnostcism is about knowledge...

You'd be right that 'knowing' isn't about atheism at all.

gnostic= know
Agnostic= don't know

Theist=believe
Atheist= don't believe

The terms are mutually exclusive.

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Thu Nov 19, 2015, 07:01 PM

cleanhippie (19,705 posts)

3. With so many on DU seemingly unable to accept that Agnostic and Atheist are mutually exclusive...

Prepare to get flamed for it.

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Thu Nov 19, 2015, 07:10 PM

edhopper (26,517 posts)

5. Does Gnostic Atheist mean

I am pretty sure there is no God and all our knowledge points to there not being one?

Or do I have to KNOW 100% there is no God?

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Response to edhopper (Reply #5)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 07:28 PM

Lordquinton (7,879 posts)

9. 100% know there is no god

And gnostic theist is 100% there is a God.

That 1% saying that we can't rule it out, buat can safely disregard it along with all the other myths is still agnostic. Even Dawkins falls on that with the addition that he could be easily convinced that God, or gods exist with just one solid piece of evidence.

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Response to edhopper (Reply #5)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 07:37 PM

gcomeau (5,764 posts)

10. Actually...

It just means you believe it CAN be known whether or not there is a God. That acquiring such knowledge is possible.

You don't have to claim actually TO know just at the moment., contrary to popular misconceptions.

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Thu Nov 19, 2015, 07:43 PM

edhopper (26,517 posts)

12. Answer A: I am not Gnostic

answer B: I am.

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Thu Nov 19, 2015, 08:02 PM

Lordquinton (7,879 posts)

13. I'm using it in the common vernacular for this poll

So know for sure, don't know for sure kinda thing, else it gts co.plicated and fights break out, which was not the intent here.

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Thu Nov 19, 2015, 07:18 PM

FiveGoodMen (20,018 posts)

6. I said Agnostic Atheist...

...because, technically, I can't prove -- even to myself -- that there's nothing out there we MIGHT call a god if we met it.

In regard to all of the gods that have been proposed thus far, I'm a full-blown atheist.

I think all the stories that have been told are completely nuts. (And more than a little bit evil)

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Response to FiveGoodMen (Reply #6)

Sun Nov 22, 2015, 03:01 PM

F4lconF16 (3,747 posts)

14. +1

Can't prove that a god is impossible, but we can pretty easily prove the human gods so far aren't real.

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Response to FiveGoodMen (Reply #6)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 03:43 PM

NastyRiffraff (12,448 posts)

17. I think most Atheists are where you are

I know I am. Unlike believers, who are so sure their god exists and everybody had better worship him/her/it, most Atheists take the scientific view that according to all available evidence, there probably is no god. However, if credible evidence is ever presented, I'd be very willing to look at it, and be convinced if it holds up to testing, peer review, etc.

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Thu Nov 19, 2015, 07:19 PM

OffWithTheirHeads (10,337 posts)

7. I think that, considering the vastness of the universe, there are things out there that we

don't and can't understand, but, some guy with a beard in the sky? Really?

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Thu Nov 19, 2015, 07:24 PM

NRaleighLiberal (53,791 posts)

8. agnostic. period.

I take great comfort in admitting I have no clue at all.

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Thu Nov 19, 2015, 07:41 PM

gcomeau (5,764 posts)

11. That's only answering one axis of the spectrum... -eom

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Sun Nov 22, 2015, 05:31 PM

mr blur (7,753 posts)

15. Apathetic Atheist.

I don't know and I don't care.

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Response to mr blur (Reply #15)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 09:17 AM

NeoGreen (3,953 posts)

21. Ooohhh...I like it...

..we could add a third axis to:

Apathy vs Zealotry

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Sun Nov 22, 2015, 07:06 PM

Lordquinton (7,879 posts)

16. I know there are pleanty of theists on this site

Where are you all?

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Mon Nov 23, 2015, 04:24 PM

gcomeau (5,764 posts)

18. Perhaps struggling to decide...

...whether it's worse to be an agnostic theist and admit room for doubt in their conclusions, or worse to claim gnostic theism and then have to defend the position.

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Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:53 PM

Iggo (43,831 posts)

20. Those are the fun ones.

The ones who want you to have an open mind, but are afraid to have one themselves.

One of our regulars told me s/he couldn't even imagine (or admit to imagining, I imagine) for the sake of argument that his/her deity did not exist.

I felt bad.

Kind of.

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Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:50 PM

Iggo (43,831 posts)

19. Way, way, way to the left. (n/t)

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